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    Default Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    "I have instructed my promoter, Bob Arum, head of Top Rank Inc., to help me out in the filing of the case as soon as possible because I have had people coming over to me now asking if I really take performance-enhancing drugs and I have cheated my way into becoming the No. 1 boxer in the world,"

    Pacquiao to sue Mayweathers in doping row | Reuters

    If the fight doesn't happen, it's pretty damning for the Mayweather camp especially Mayweather Sr. At minimum he'd be looking at defamation and maybe even a libel suit for what $20 Million? Now that's no joke!

    Defamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Even if the fight does happen, Pacquiao might still have a rock solid case.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    "I have instructed my promoter, Bob Arum, head of Top Rank Inc., to help me out in the filing of the case as soon as possible because I have had people coming over to me now asking if I really take performance-enhancing drugs and I have cheated my way into becoming the No. 1 boxer in the world,"

    Pacquiao to sue Mayweathers in doping row | Reuters

    If the fight doesn't happen, it's pretty damning for the Mayweather camp especially Mayweather Sr. At minimum he'd be looking at defamation and maybe even a libel suit for what $20 Million? Now that's no joke!

    Defamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Even if the fight does happen, Pacquiao might still have a rock solid case.

    Interesting definition: "is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always,[1] a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant)."

    does that include when Roach said "Pacquiao will take any drug test, any time, anywhere"?

    Well camp Mayweather took him up on that and now Team Pac is planning to sue them of it. The suspicion increases, even if the lawsuit goes through it will not silence the publics suspicion, it just puts more money in Manny's pocket.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Anybody who thinks that Pacquiao realistically has any shot at a defamation suit is a freaking moron. If someone asks you a question, you can say "yeah, I think he's on steroids." People might hate you and what not but there's no legal ramifications for saying that. This is fucking America!!! Get it straight. Do you know how many bloggers every once in a while accuse Albert Pujols of juicing? There's a big difference between saying "yeah i've seen him use steroids with my own eyes before, I know he used steroids." and "Yeah, I think he's on steroids. Something is fishy there." You know who also tried defamation suits? Roger Clemens and Shane Mosley. Hahaha. Why can't Manny just take the tests? I swear to God, I NEVER even suspected Manny of PED use until Mayweather Sr. and Malignaggi started talking. Then I was like "hmmm. Ehhh, probably not." Then Manny refused the USADA testing and now is filing a defamation suit? We've seen this same act before from confirmed PED users.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Anybody who thinks that Pacquiao realistically has any shot at a defamation suit is a freaking moron. If someone asks you a question, you can say "yeah, I think he's on steroids." People might hate you and what not but there's no legal ramifications for saying that. This is fucking America!!! Get it straight. Do you know how many bloggers every once in a while accuse Albert Pujols of juicing? There's a big difference between saying "yeah i've seen him use steroids with my own eyes before, I know he used steroids." and "Yeah, I think he's on steroids. Something is fishy there." You know who also tried defamation suits? Roger Clemens and Shane Mosley. Hahaha. Why can't Manny just take the tests? I swear to God, I NEVER even suspected Manny of PED use until Mayweather Sr. and Malignaggi started talking. Then I was like "hmmm. Ehhh, probably not." Then Manny refused the USADA testing and now is filing a defamation suit? We've seen this same act before from confirmed PED users.
    You are an absolute ignorant idiot!

    Although a difficult to win Pacquiao could have gone after Mayweather Sr. the first time he opened his "mouth on camera". Now it's on a whole new level where an actual contract signing (lack of) can be used to measure the cost. It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about Law. Why do you think so many celebs sue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Anybody who thinks that Pacquiao realistically has any shot at a defamation suit is a freaking moron. If someone asks you a question, you can say "yeah, I think he's on steroids." People might hate you and what not but there's no legal ramifications for saying that. This is fucking America!!! Get it straight. Do you know how many bloggers every once in a while accuse Albert Pujols of juicing? There's a big difference between saying "yeah i've seen him use steroids with my own eyes before, I know he used steroids." and "Yeah, I think he's on steroids. Something is fishy there." You know who also tried defamation suits? Roger Clemens and Shane Mosley. Hahaha. Why can't Manny just take the tests? I swear to God, I NEVER even suspected Manny of PED use until Mayweather Sr. and Malignaggi started talking. Then I was like "hmmm. Ehhh, probably not." Then Manny refused the USADA testing and now is filing a defamation suit? We've seen this same act before from confirmed PED users.
    You are an absolute ignorant idiot!

    Although a difficult to win Pacquiao could have gone after Mayweather Sr. the first time he opened his "mouth on camera". Now it's on a whole new level where an actual contract signing (lack of) can be used to measure the cost. It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about Law. Why do you think so many celebs sue?
    Celebrities sue because they are money hungry divas.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Seriously, these two guys may be the two pound for pound best fighters on the planet, but they are also P4P the two biggest whining pussies.


    This is starting to resemble an episode of The Young and the Restless.


    Get the fucking fight done already you two gaylords.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Anybody who thinks that Pacquiao realistically has any shot at a defamation suit is a freaking moron. If someone asks you a question, you can say "yeah, I think he's on steroids." People might hate you and what not but there's no legal ramifications for saying that. This is fucking America!!! Get it straight. Do you know how many bloggers every once in a while accuse Albert Pujols of juicing? There's a big difference between saying "yeah i've seen him use steroids with my own eyes before, I know he used steroids." and "Yeah, I think he's on steroids. Something is fishy there." You know who also tried defamation suits? Roger Clemens and Shane Mosley. Hahaha. Why can't Manny just take the tests? I swear to God, I NEVER even suspected Manny of PED use until Mayweather Sr. and Malignaggi started talking. Then I was like "hmmm. Ehhh, probably not." Then Manny refused the USADA testing and now is filing a defamation suit? We've seen this same act before from confirmed PED users.
    You are an absolute ignorant idiot!

    Although a difficult to win Pacquiao could have gone after Mayweather Sr. the first time he opened his "mouth on camera". Now it's on a whole new level where an actual contract signing (lack of) can be used to measure the cost. It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about Law. Why do you think so many celebs sue?
    LMAO! The main reason celebrities sue is because it is a PR stunt you dumbass. What you don't see is that months later after those said celebrities raise their defamation suits, those suits are dismissed. You can sue anybody for anything as long as you have money and a lawyer, that doesn't mean that your suit is valid. And the celebrities that DO win some of their defamation suit, win strictly because the publications or the people they sue used faulty resources and published "evidence" as FACT and confirmation of the accusations, whatever they may be. If you think any judge in their right fucking mind is gonna give Manny a judgment because Mayweather said "yeah, i think he's on steroids, ain't no way a little guy come up like that unless he's doing something" then you would be looking a complete destruction of the American legal system. Hahahahaha, try again man.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Anybody who thinks that Pacquiao realistically has any shot at a defamation suit is a freaking moron. If someone asks you a question, you can say "yeah, I think he's on steroids." People might hate you and what not but there's no legal ramifications for saying that. This is fucking America!!! Get it straight. Do you know how many bloggers every once in a while accuse Albert Pujols of juicing? There's a big difference between saying "yeah i've seen him use steroids with my own eyes before, I know he used steroids." and "Yeah, I think he's on steroids. Something is fishy there." You know who also tried defamation suits? Roger Clemens and Shane Mosley. Hahaha. Why can't Manny just take the tests? I swear to God, I NEVER even suspected Manny of PED use until Mayweather Sr. and Malignaggi started talking. Then I was like "hmmm. Ehhh, probably not." Then Manny refused the USADA testing and now is filing a defamation suit? We've seen this same act before from confirmed PED users.
    You are an absolute ignorant idiot!

    Although a difficult to win Pacquiao could have gone after Mayweather Sr. the first time he opened his "mouth on camera". Now it's on a whole new level where an actual contract signing (lack of) can be used to measure the cost. It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about Law. Why do you think so many celebs sue?
    LMAO! The main reason celebrities sue is because it is a PR stunt you dumbass. What you don't see is that months later after those said celebrities raise their defamation suits, those suits are dismissed. You can sue anybody for anything as long as you have money and a lawyer, that doesn't mean that your suit is valid. And the celebrities that DO win some of their defamation suit, win strictly because the publications or the people they sue used faulty resources and published "evidence" as FACT and confirmation of the accusations, whatever they may be. If you think any judge in their right fucking mind is gonna give Manny a judgment because Mayweather said "yeah, i think he's on steroids, ain't no way a little guy come up like that unless he's doing something" then you would be looking a complete destruction of the American legal system. Hahahahaha, try again man.
    It's useless to point anything out because you have no clue! READ the fukn defination Ahole!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post

    You are an absolute ignorant idiot!

    Although a difficult to win Pacquiao could have gone after Mayweather Sr. the first time he opened his "mouth on camera". Now it's on a whole new level where an actual contract signing (lack of) can be used to measure the cost. It's obvious you know absolutely nothing about Law. Why do you think so many celebs sue?
    LMAO! The main reason celebrities sue is because it is a PR stunt you dumbass. What you don't see is that months later after those said celebrities raise their defamation suits, those suits are dismissed. You can sue anybody for anything as long as you have money and a lawyer, that doesn't mean that your suit is valid. And the celebrities that DO win some of their defamation suit, win strictly because the publications or the people they sue used faulty resources and published "evidence" as FACT and confirmation of the accusations, whatever they may be. If you think any judge in their right fucking mind is gonna give Manny a judgment because Mayweather said "yeah, i think he's on steroids, ain't no way a little guy come up like that unless he's doing something" then you would be looking a complete destruction of the American legal system. Hahahahaha, try again man.
    It's useless to point anything out because you have no clue! READ the fukn defination Ahole!
    What? Hahahaha, hey guy why don't YOU read you're own link dumbass. If you scroll further down you can read this from your own WIkipedia link under the section called "defense":

    "Another important aspect of defamation is the difference between fact and opinion. Statements made as "facts" are frequently actionable defamation. Statements of opinion or pure opinion are not actionable. In order to win damages in a libel case, the plaintiff must first show that the statements were "statements of fact or mixed statements of opinion and fact" and second that these statements were false."

    Mayweather Sr. never said "I know Manny Pacquiao takes steroids", he's just giving his thoughts and opinions on the matter. If YOU knew anything about law then you would know that isn't grounds for a defamation suit. Read YOUR own links. Haha.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Even Roach must be wondering now and may start distancing himself

    I mean.....To go for a lawsuit rather than do the tests is a bit over the top dont you think

    No way Manny wins a lawsuit, Floyd hasnt even specifically said hes juicing anyway, hes just requested that Manny do the same tests as himself and Manny has refused

    Floyd senior and Maligniga have publicly questioined Mannys performances which is why I laughed at Paulie being mentioned as a possible alternate opponent, Paulie should ask for the same tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Even Roach must be wondering now and may start distancing himself

    I mean.....To go for a lawsuit rather than do the tests is a bit over the top dont you think

    No way Manny wins a lawsuit, Floyd hasnt even specifically said hes juicing anyway, hes just requested that Manny do the same tests as himself and Manny has refused

    Floyd senior and Maligniga have publicly questioined Mannys performances which is why I laughed at Paulie being mentioned as a possible alternate opponent, Paulie should ask for the same tests
    Not Floyd but Floyd Sr said. Somehow, he could have some chances to win something as Sr said he was on steroid and not "he thinks that", semantics is very important here. Indeed, it is grotesque and stupid, he should just take the 35 millions paycheck, take the little injection, prove the world he's not on steroids, doubts are erased, he's rich and everybody is happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Even Roach must be wondering now and may start distancing himself

    I mean.....To go for a lawsuit rather than do the tests is a bit over the top dont you think

    No way Manny wins a lawsuit, Floyd hasnt even specifically said hes juicing anyway, hes just requested that Manny do the same tests as himself and Manny has refused

    Floyd senior and Maligniga have publicly questioined Mannys performances which is why I laughed at Paulie being mentioned as a possible alternate opponent, Paulie should ask for the same tests
    IMO Roach has a thing for cheaters lol First James Toney, then the rumors that he was gonna train Margarito, and now the Pacquiao scandal lol

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    "I have instructed my promoter, Bob Arum, head of Top Rank Inc., to help me out in the filing of the case as soon as possible because I have had people coming over to me now asking if I really take performance-enhancing drugs and I have cheated my way into becoming the No. 1 boxer in the world,"

    Pacquiao to sue Mayweathers in doping row | Reuters

    If the fight doesn't happen, it's pretty damning for the Mayweather camp especially Mayweather Sr. At minimum he'd be looking at defamation and maybe even a libel suit for what $20 Million? Now that's no joke!

    Defamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Even if the fight does happen, Pacquiao might still have a rock solid case.
    Dude your the biggest boner of them all, by your definition half of the US citizens and world should be sued by the president because they say he is this and that and is doing a shitty job running the country

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    "I have instructed my promoter, Bob Arum, head of Top Rank Inc., to help me out in the filing of the case as soon as possible because I have had people coming over to me now asking if I really take performance-enhancing drugs and I have cheated my way into becoming the No. 1 boxer in the world,"

    Pacquiao to sue Mayweathers in doping row | Reuters

    If the fight doesn't happen, it's pretty damning for the Mayweather camp especially Mayweather Sr. At minimum he'd be looking at defamation and maybe even a libel suit for what $20 Million? Now that's no joke!

    Defamation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Even if the fight does happen, Pacquiao might still have a rock solid case.
    Dude your the biggest boner of them all, by your definition half of the US citizens and world should be sued by the president because they say he is this and that and is doing a shitty job running the country
    First off, I made no definitions. I just provided the information and links And I agree that Pacquaio has a strong case. You don't have to agree. That other stuff you write is just nonsense.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    I don't believe there is much of a case. They could have gone after Mayweather Snr some time back, but they let it go and it probably wouldn't have got very far anyway. Are they also going to try and go for Malignaggi and Cintron too, after all they have suggested that Pac might be juicing as well.

    They have no justification in suing because of the request for extensive testing. Now in Korea they would have a case because the laws are screwy and saying or printing anything negative that hurts ones potential income is illegal (good for protecting corrupt businesses). But as far as I am aware, America is far more civilised when it comes to the protection of free speech. The case would likely be thrown out.

    Taking the tests would be far easier and command a lot more respect than going through with this. The Pac camp seems to be all over the place right now and it really doesn't look very good.

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