F#%k the ring magazine

[Taeth]

Wow, they are such assholes. I can understand giving Mayweather a portion of the blame, but the magazine basically blames him for the whole reason Mayweather-Pacquiao fell apart when it was at most 50/50 if not more Pacquiao's fault that it didn't happen. They have poor excuses for why they believe Mayweather is at fault, and they are as a biased as Dan Rafael. As for who was scared of whom, can somebody refresh my memory on who fought Clottey and who is fighting Mosley? In hind sight its easy to say Mayweather has ducked everyone, but at the time he fought the right people at the right time, when they were considered among the most challenging options for him. Baldomir was considered the top welterweight when Mayweather fought him(and made the same offer Margarito did at the time of $8million minimum to fight). Oscar just destroyed Mayorga and Floyd moved up to face him. Hatton was the p4p best guy around those divisions when Floyd fought him, and yes Hatton was bigger than him.

I'm not trying to say Floyd has faced everyone or even has close to the resume Pacquiao, Ray Leonard, Hearns, Duran, etc. have, but he has foughten a lot of good fighters and shouldn't be considered a guy who ducks opposition. As is shown with this fight against Mosley, he is willing to fight anyone, sure it the right money needs to be involved, but Floyd isn't afraid to fight anyone in boxing. It just needs to make sense financially.

[Master]

Surprised as I thought they would side with Floyd with the Oscar connection to the mag.

[amat]

The Oscar connection is wholly overblown as anyone who actually reads the Ring should do.

What article are you referring to Taeth?

[Pavlik]

What issue is that Taeth I have a subscription to the ring and as far as articles regarding this topic it blames both Manny and PBF equally.

[Taeth]

the one with Timothy Bradley on the cover.

[Kel]

Floyds never asked any of his other 40 odd opponents to take tests, and rightly so, he has no right to.

[mad_takamura]

Wow, they are such assholes. I can understand giving Mayweather a portion of the blame, but the magazine basically blames him for the whole reason Mayweather-Pacquiao fell apart when it was at most 50/50 if not more Pacquiao's fault that it didn't happen. They have poor excuses for why they believe Mayweather is at fault, and they are as a biased as Dan Rafael. As for who was scared of whom, can somebody refresh my memory on who fought Clottey and who is fighting Mosley? In hind sight its easy to say Mayweather has ducked everyone, but at the time he fought the right people at the right time, when they were considered among the most challenging options for him. Baldomir was considered the top welterweight when Mayweather fought him(and made the same offer Margarito did at the time of $8million minimum to fight). Oscar just destroyed Mayorga and Floyd moved up to face him. Hatton was the p4p best guy around those divisions when Floyd fought him, and yes Hatton was bigger than him.

I'm not trying to say Floyd has faced everyone or even has close to the resume Pacquiao, Ray Leonard, Hearns, Duran, etc. have, but he has foughten a lot of good fighters and shouldn't be considered a guy who ducks opposition. As is shown with this fight against Mosley, he is willing to fight anyone, sure it the right money needs to be involved, but Floyd isn't afraid to fight anyone in boxing. It just needs to make sense financially.

THAT'S CALLED SUBJECTIVE JOURNALISM WHICH SHOULD BE PRACTICED BTW.
For example, i won't complain that you're not even blaming both for all of this. Pac has reasons. In the em-pac1 didn't you know that they took his blood twice? The first blood transfusion suddenly went missing from the doctor's records so a week before the fight they took blood again from him the second time. Thus his reason why he felt weak during the fight and didn't seem to hurt EM at all! Add the fact the headbutt too. There is a video of that as a proof, right after the fight way back in 2005.
Also if both had blood taken from them who do you think would benefit more? It's pbf since he weighs as a middleweight before fights. Pac's frame is welterweight at best.
See? That's what happens when you believe a crackhead's delusions. And then you complain when a journalist doesn't favor your opinions. At least basing it on pac's arguments he has basis to back up his claims. That's the answer to your questions why pac backed off. Give me a concrete evidence on pbf sr.'s a-side meth claims and i'll wear a hello kitty avatar.

[Chino]

The first blood transfusion suddenly went missing from the doctor's records so a week before the fight they took blood again from him the second time. Thus his reason why he felt weak during the fight and didn't seem to hurt EM at all!

Knocking down JMM doesn't seem like something a weak fighter would be able to do. If something weakened Pac it was probably JMM's punches.

[Waleed]

The first blood transfusion suddenly went missing from the doctor's records so a week before the fight they took blood again from him the second time. Thus his reason why he felt weak during the fight and didn't seem to hurt EM at all!

Knocking down JMM doesn't seem like something a weak fighter would be able to do. If something weakened Pac it was probably JMM's punches.

He was referring EM-Pac1 not JMM-Pac

[Chino]

The first blood transfusion suddenly went missing from the doctor's records so a week before the fight they took blood again from him the second time. Thus his reason why he felt weak during the fight and didn't seem to hurt EM at all!

Knocking down JMM doesn't seem like something a weak fighter would be able to do. If something weakened Pac it was probably JMM's punches.

He was referring EM-Pac1 not JMM-Pac

Thank you Waleed

Pac didn't look weak at all throwing punches from all over the place as he usually does. EM just came with the right plan to box him from the outside using his reach and not engaging so much in exchanges. Hard to believe Pac was weakened because of a blood test specially when you also hear him blame it on his socks after the fight.

[Lance Uppercut]

everyone knows how The Ring Magazine loves to side with Top Rank fighters.

[mad_takamura]

The first blood transfusion suddenly went missing from the doctor's records so a week before the fight they took blood again from him the second time. Thus his reason why he felt weak during the fight and didn't seem to hurt EM at all!

Knocking down JMM doesn't seem like something a weak fighter would be able to do. If something weakened Pac it was probably JMM's punches.

You're not reading my post well, mate.
I said it's the first fight with EM or Erik Morales in short. I did not even mention JMM.
JMM is in the past. He has amir khan on his radar while pac has PBF. If pac and jmm meets again for the 3rd time, Pac will win by ko against jmm given pac's recent streak at the 140-147 division.

[Lance Uppercut]

I think Jim Bagg is hilarious.

[mad_takamura]

I think Jim Bagg is hilarious.

Who the hell is that?

[Taeth]

Wow, they are such assholes. I can understand giving Mayweather a portion of the blame, but the magazine basically blames him for the whole reason Mayweather-Pacquiao fell apart when it was at most 50/50 if not more Pacquiao's fault that it didn't happen. They have poor excuses for why they believe Mayweather is at fault, and they are as a biased as Dan Rafael. As for who was scared of whom, can somebody refresh my memory on who fought Clottey and who is fighting Mosley? In hind sight its easy to say Mayweather has ducked everyone, but at the time he fought the right people at the right time, when they were considered among the most challenging options for him. Baldomir was considered the top welterweight when Mayweather fought him(and made the same offer Margarito did at the time of $8million minimum to fight). Oscar just destroyed Mayorga and Floyd moved up to face him. Hatton was the p4p best guy around those divisions when Floyd fought him, and yes Hatton was bigger than him.

I'm not trying to say Floyd has faced everyone or even has close to the resume Pacquiao, Ray Leonard, Hearns, Duran, etc. have, but he has foughten a lot of good fighters and shouldn't be considered a guy who ducks opposition. As is shown with this fight against Mosley, he is willing to fight anyone, sure it the right money needs to be involved, but Floyd isn't afraid to fight anyone in boxing. It just needs to make sense financially.

THAT'S CALLED SUBJECTIVE JOURNALISM WHICH SHOULD BE PRACTICED BTW.
For example, i won't complain that you're not even blaming both for all of this. Pac has reasons. In the em-pac1 didn't you know that they took his blood twice? The first blood transfusion suddenly went missing from the doctor's records so a week before the fight they took blood again from him the second time. Thus his reason why he felt weak during the fight and didn't seem to hurt EM at all! Add the fact the headbutt too. There is a video of that as a proof, right after the fight way back in 2005.
Also if both had blood taken from them who do you think would benefit more? It's pbf since he weighs as a middleweight before fights. Pac's frame is welterweight at best.
See? That's what happens when you believe a crackhead's delusions. And then you complain when a journalist doesn't favor your opinions. At least basing it on pac's arguments he has basis to back up his claims. That's the answer to your questions why pac backed off. Give me a concrete evidence on pbf sr.'s a-side meth claims and i'll wear a hello kitty avatar.

What blood transfusion are you reffering to? They don't do a blood transfusion for a blood test. They take a minute amount of blood which the body recovers in less than an hour.

The main excuses they made for Pacquiao's lose to Erik were
1. He wasn't allowed to wear Reyes.
2. He had the wrong socks on.

I also haven't placed the blame solely on Pacquiao, I just said they are making every out to look like Mayweather is ducking Manny when in fact both sides are to blame. I think Pacquiao should be allowed to ask for 10 million dollars for every pound above 147, it was discraceful for Mayweather to come in at 146 against Marquez. That really pissed me off. But it also really pisses me off about the pleuthora of lame excuses Manny's camp has made about not wanting to take blood which are totally rediculous. That being said I think Mayweather's camp made a big deal out of the steroids just to get into Manny's head, and in that sense its their fault for bringing something up I don't feel has any credence, to me Manny is a clean fighter, but he is just letting his ego get the better of him. I think they both want to fight, but they also want something that will allow them to have a mental edge over eachother. But the fact is neither of them will have a complete resume without the other simply because how can you not face far and away the best other guy in the sport when they are in your weight division, you two are the most popular fighters and the fight is being asked for by virtually every sports fan.