And used to think L Holmes was a jerk BEFORE this week
Larry Holmes might be a HOF heavyweight. I still can't stand the jerk. I remember when he ran at the mouth saying that Rocky Marciano "couldn't carry my jock." I also remember how everything was racial to him. Gerry Cooney got more press 'cause he was white, blah, blah, blah. I used to root for him to get KTFO'ed, and totally loved it when Tyson did the honors.
But he topped himself on the Ali-Frazier III ESPN Classic special. Talk about sour grapes and being an old bitter jerk. He's talking about Ali in an interview, and starts by saying: "Ali was/is a great person, but..." Hell, I knew he was going to say something critical, like ".....but he didn't have a good right hand." Or, ".....but he left himself open for the left hook." But no. The bitter jerk finished it by saying: ".....but he was totally overrated." WTF?!?!? Who the hell do you think you are, you two-bit bum? Just 'cause you've always been jealous of the attention Ali got during his career, is no reason to be pot-shotting one of the greatest of all time.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the jerk... I don't care HOW many buildings he put up in Easton, PA. I hope he tries a comeback against a Klitschko.
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Re: And used to think L Holmes was a jerk BEFORE this week
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TitoFan
Larry Holmes might be a HOF heavyweight. I still can't stand the jerk. I remember when he ran at the mouth saying that Rocky Marciano "couldn't carry my jock." I also remember how everything was racial to him. Gerry Cooney got more press 'cause he was white, blah, blah, blah. I used to root for him to get KTFO'ed, and totally loved it when Tyson did the honors.
But he topped himself on the Ali-Frazier III ESPN Classic special. Talk about sour grapes and being an old bitter jerk. He's talking about Ali in an interview, and starts by saying: "Ali was/is a great person, but..." Hell, I knew he was going to say something critical, like ".....but he didn't have a good right hand." Or, ".....but he left himself open for the left hook." But no. The bitter jerk finished it by saying: ".....but he was totally overrated." WTF?!?!? Who the hell do you think you are, you two-bit bum? Just 'cause you've always been jealous of the attention Ali got during his career, is no reason to be pot-shotting one of the greatest of all time.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the jerk... I don't care HOW many buildings he put up in Easton, PA. I hope he tries a comeback against a Klitschko.
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i agree that Holmes is a bit of an asshole at times, and extremely bitter, but his ass did have a right to complain during the Cooney fight
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TitoFan
Larry Holmes might be a HOF heavyweight. I still can't stand the jerk. I remember when he ran at the mouth saying that Rocky Marciano "couldn't carry my jock." I also remember how everything was racial to him. Gerry Cooney got more press 'cause he was white, blah, blah, blah. I used to root for him to get KTFO'ed, and totally loved it when Tyson did the honors.
But he topped himself on the Ali-Frazier III ESPN Classic special. Talk about sour grapes and being an old bitter jerk. He's talking about Ali in an interview, and starts by saying: "Ali was/is a great person, but..." Hell, I knew he was going to say something critical, like ".....but he didn't have a good right hand." Or, ".....but he left himself open for the left hook." But no. The bitter jerk finished it by saying: ".....but he was totally overrated." WTF?!?!? Who the hell do you think you are, you two-bit bum? Just 'cause you've always been jealous of the attention Ali got during his career, is no reason to be pot-shotting one of the greatest of all time.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the jerk... I don't care HOW many buildings he put up in Easton, PA. I hope he tries a comeback against a Klitschko.
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i agree that Holmes is a bit of an asshole at times, and extremely bitter, but his ass did have a right to complain during the Cooney fight
It's just the whole package. If a Shane Mosley were to complain about racism, I'd be all ears. And he'd probably be right (just an example). But coming from Holmes.... I just can't stomach anything that man has to say. And for the record, I think he got just as much press as Cooney did. But c'mon, since the day that white HW champions became scarce, the press has ALWAYS sought out the next "Great White Hope." It certainly wasn't a slight directed at Holmes, who I thought ALWAYS got his due from the press.
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TitoFan
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ElTerribleMorales
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TitoFan
Larry Holmes might be a HOF heavyweight. I still can't stand the jerk. I remember when he ran at the mouth saying that Rocky Marciano "couldn't carry my jock." I also remember how everything was racial to him. Gerry Cooney got more press 'cause he was white, blah, blah, blah. I used to root for him to get KTFO'ed, and totally loved it when Tyson did the honors.
But he topped himself on the Ali-Frazier III ESPN Classic special. Talk about sour grapes and being an old bitter jerk. He's talking about Ali in an interview, and starts by saying: "Ali was/is a great person, but..." Hell, I knew he was going to say something critical, like ".....but he didn't have a good right hand." Or, ".....but he left himself open for the left hook." But no. The bitter jerk finished it by saying: ".....but he was totally overrated." WTF?!?!? Who the hell do you think you are, you two-bit bum? Just 'cause you've always been jealous of the attention Ali got during his career, is no reason to be pot-shotting one of the greatest of all time.
I'm sorry, I just can't stand the jerk... I don't care HOW many buildings he put up in Easton, PA. I hope he tries a comeback against a Klitschko.
:boxingmatch:
i agree that Holmes is a bit of an asshole at times, and extremely bitter, but his ass did have a right to complain during the Cooney fight
It's just the whole package. If a Shane Mosley were to complain about racism, I'd be all ears. And he'd probably be right (just an example). But coming from Holmes.... I just can't stomach anything that man has to say. And for the record, I think he got just as much press as Cooney did. But c'mon, since the day that white HW champions became scarce, the press has ALWAYS sought out the next "Great White Hope." It certainly wasn't a slight directed at Holmes, who I thought ALWAYS got his due from the press.
yea but the thing i found fucked up was that the president of the USA Ronald Reagan calls Cooney in his locker room to wish him luck, and then they announce Larry Holmes THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD before they announce the challenger lol that's fucked up
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ElTerribleMorales
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TitoFan
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ElTerribleMorales
i agree that Holmes is a bit of an asshole at times, and extremely bitter, but his ass did have a right to complain during the Cooney fight
It's just the whole package. If a Shane Mosley were to complain about racism, I'd be all ears. And he'd probably be right (just an example). But coming from Holmes.... I just can't stomach anything that man has to say. And for the record, I think he got just as much press as Cooney did. But c'mon, since the day that white HW champions became scarce, the press has ALWAYS sought out the next "Great White Hope." It certainly wasn't a slight directed at Holmes, who I thought ALWAYS got his due from the press.
yea but the thing i found fucked up was that the president of the USA Ronald Reagan calls Cooney in his locker room to wish him luck, and then they announce Larry Holmes THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD before they announce the challenger lol that's fucked up
The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.
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TitoFan
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ElTerribleMorales
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TitoFan
It's just the whole package. If a Shane Mosley were to complain about racism, I'd be all ears. And he'd probably be right (just an example). But coming from Holmes.... I just can't stomach anything that man has to say. And for the record, I think he got just as much press as Cooney did. But c'mon, since the day that white HW champions became scarce, the press has ALWAYS sought out the next "Great White Hope." It certainly wasn't a slight directed at Holmes, who I thought ALWAYS got his due from the press.
yea but the thing i found fucked up was that the president of the USA Ronald Reagan calls Cooney in his locker room to wish him luck, and then they announce Larry Holmes THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD before they announce the challenger lol that's fucked up
The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.
never seen like that happen again though, gotta hand it to larry though, he's hilarious even though his as isn't tryin to be lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b7n9U6D3Y
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ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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ElTerribleMorales
yea but the thing i found fucked up was that the president of the USA Ronald Reagan calls Cooney in his locker room to wish him luck, and then they announce Larry Holmes THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD before they announce the challenger lol that's fucked up
The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.
never seen like that happen again though, gotta hand it to larry though, he's hilarious even though his as isn't tryin to be lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b7n9U6D3Y
See? Even Eddie Murphy knew Larry was a jerk.
;D
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TitoFan
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ElTerribleMorales
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TitoFan
The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.
never seen like that happen again though, gotta hand it to larry though, he's hilarious even though his as isn't tryin to be lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b7n9U6D3Y
See? Even Eddie Murphy knew Larry was a jerk.
;D
Eddie Murphy is fucked up lol
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ElTerribleMorales
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TitoFan
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ElTerribleMorales
yea but the thing i found fucked up was that the president of the USA Ronald Reagan calls Cooney in his locker room to wish him luck, and then they announce Larry Holmes THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD before they announce the challenger lol that's fucked up
The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.
never seen like that happen again though, gotta hand it to larry though, he's hilarious even though his as isn't tryin to be lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b7n9U6D3Y
Funny. That was a good larry holmes voice too.
Re: And used to think L Holmes was a jerk BEFORE this week
I can understand Holmes' bitterness, but why should he direct it it Ali? Ali had nothing to do with Holmes' "status". Yes Holmes could be one of the most underrated Heavy Champs of all-time. But that is not Ali's fault.
Holmes has a right to be bitter about how King robbed him of tying Marciano's record against Spinks. And also about being underrated.
But his own odd personality was to blame for his less-than-Ali public image.
He couldn't have won however he turned: he whipped an old Ali, people hated him for it, and then he had to follow Ali as the next Champ.
He wasn't really the spitting image of a Champ.
I don't know if he's a jerk. BUt he sure is bitter. Worst of all, he's a Heavy Champ and he's accusing another Heavy Champ of being overrated? He should feel comraderie with ALL Heavy Champs, and not judge harshly anyone who held the belt. Not even Bruce Seldon...........errr, ummm :confused:
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I can understand Holmes' bitterness, but why should he direct it it Ali? Ali had nothing to do with Holmes' "status". Yes Holmes could be one of the most underrated Heavy Champs of all-time. But that is not Ali's fault.
| Holmes has a right to be bitter about how King robbed him of tying Marciano's record against Spinks. And also about being underrated.
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But his own odd personality was to blame for his less-than-Ali public image.
He couldn't have won however he turned: he whipped an old Ali, people hated him for it, and then he had to follow Ali as the next Champ.
He wasn't really the spitting image of a Champ.
I don't know if he's a jerk. BUt he sure is bitter. Worst of all, he's a Heavy Champ and he's accusing another Heavy Champ of being overrated? He should feel comraderie with ALL Heavy Champs, and not judge harshly anyone who held the belt. Not even Bruce Seldon...........errr, ummm :confused:
scratch that, he would bitch over and over about Don King, yet he'd always go back to him, he has no reason to feel bitter about anything to do with Don King cause he'd always go back to him, bringing iit upon himself after knowing that King is just a theif
Re: And used to think L Holmes was a jerk BEFORE this week
Holmes was never as good as Ali, he needs to accept that. Technically Ali was poor but he was great in all the other ways, heart, chin, stamina and classic opposition.
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Holmes was never as good as Ali, he needs to accept that. Technically Ali was poor but he was great in all the other ways, heart, chin, stamina and classic opposition.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Sums it up nicely.
Holmes is looking at the technical aspect of boxing. There's more to it, of course, that's why we all watch it.
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seriously if boxing was all about technique.
Lets all follow Larry Holmes and be robots that fight the same way.
Ali used to beat him up in sparring in his mid age years, so how Larry could call him overrated is beyond me
Re: And used to think L Holmes was a jerk BEFORE this week
For me it's always been hard to separate the man from the boxer. I know Holmes was a good boxer. I don't think anybody argues that. But as someone mentioned... he didn't have the classic, career-making opponents that Ali did. And as yet another poster said, as a former HW champ, he shouldn't speak that way about a fellow former HW champ. So to me, Larry Holmes will always be the bitter old jerk I've always perceived him to be. And of Tyson's KO wins, none have made me happier than the one over Holmes.
