And used to think L Holmes was a jerk BEFORE this week

[TitoFan]

i agree that Holmes is a bit of an asshole at times, and extremely bitter, but his ass did have a right to complain during the Cooney fight

It's just the whole package. If a Shane Mosley were to complain about racism, I'd be all ears. And he'd probably be right (just an example). But coming from Holmes.... I just can't stomach anything that man has to say. And for the record, I think he got just as much press as Cooney did. But c'mon, since the day that white HW champions became scarce, the press has ALWAYS sought out the next "Great White Hope." It certainly wasn't a slight directed at Holmes, who I thought ALWAYS got his due from the press.

yea but the thing i found fucked up was that the president of the USA Ronald Reagan calls Cooney in his locker room to wish him luck, and then they announce Larry Holmes THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD before they announce the challenger lol that's fucked up

The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.

[ElTerribleMorales]

It's just the whole package. If a Shane Mosley were to complain about racism, I'd be all ears. And he'd probably be right (just an example). But coming from Holmes.... I just can't stomach anything that man has to say. And for the record, I think he got just as much press as Cooney did. But c'mon, since the day that white HW champions became scarce, the press has ALWAYS sought out the next "Great White Hope." It certainly wasn't a slight directed at Holmes, who I thought ALWAYS got his due from the press.

yea but the thing i found fucked up was that the president of the USA Ronald Reagan calls Cooney in his locker room to wish him luck, and then they announce Larry Holmes THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD before they announce the challenger lol that's fucked up

The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.

never seen like that happen again though, gotta hand it to larry though, he's hilarious even though his as isn't tryin to be lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b7n9U6D3Y

[TitoFan]

yea but the thing i found fucked up was that the president of the USA Ronald Reagan calls Cooney in his locker room to wish him luck, and then they announce Larry Holmes THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD before they announce the challenger lol that's fucked up

The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.

never seen like that happen again though, gotta hand it to larry though, he's hilarious even though his as isn't tryin to be lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b7n9U6D3Y

See? Even Eddie Murphy knew Larry was a jerk.

[ElTerribleMorales]

The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.

never seen like that happen again though, gotta hand it to larry though, he's hilarious even though his as isn't tryin to be lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b7n9U6D3Y

See? Even Eddie Murphy knew Larry was a jerk.

Eddie Murphy is fucked up lol

[Lance Uppercut]

yea but the thing i found fucked up was that the president of the USA Ronald Reagan calls Cooney in his locker room to wish him luck, and then they announce Larry Holmes THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD before they announce the challenger lol that's fucked up

The announcement part... yeah... that's not cool. Someone's head should've rolled. But Reagan? C'mon. Reagan the boxing fan is free to call whomever he wants. Holmes shouldn't have been such a baby about it.

never seen like that happen again though, gotta hand it to larry though, he's hilarious even though his as isn't tryin to be lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8b7n9U6D3Y

Funny. That was a good larry holmes voice too.

[brocktonblockbust]

I can understand Holmes' bitterness, but why should he direct it it Ali? Ali had nothing to do with Holmes' "status". Yes Holmes could be one of the most underrated Heavy Champs of all-time. But that is not Ali's fault.

Holmes has a right to be bitter about how King robbed him of tying Marciano's record against Spinks. And also about being underrated.

But his own odd personality was to blame for his less-than-Ali public image.

He couldn't have won however he turned: he whipped an old Ali, people hated him for it, and then he had to follow Ali as the next Champ.

He wasn't really the spitting image of a Champ.

I don't know if he's a jerk. BUt he sure is bitter. Worst of all, he's a Heavy Champ and he's accusing another Heavy Champ of being overrated? He should feel comraderie with ALL Heavy Champs, and not judge harshly anyone who held the belt. Not even Bruce Seldon...........errr, ummm

[ElTerribleMorales]

I can understand Holmes' bitterness, but why should he direct it it Ali? Ali had nothing to do with Holmes' "status". Yes Holmes could be one of the most underrated Heavy Champs of all-time. But that is not Ali's fault.

Holmes has a right to be bitter about how King robbed him of tying Marciano's record against Spinks. And also about being underrated.

But his own odd personality was to blame for his less-than-Ali public image.

He couldn't have won however he turned: he whipped an old Ali, people hated him for it, and then he had to follow Ali as the next Champ.

He wasn't really the spitting image of a Champ.

I don't know if he's a jerk. BUt he sure is bitter. Worst of all, he's a Heavy Champ and he's accusing another Heavy Champ of being overrated? He should feel comraderie with ALL Heavy Champs, and not judge harshly anyone who held the belt. Not even Bruce Seldon...........errr, ummm

scratch that, he would bitch over and over about Don King, yet he'd always go back to him, he has no reason to feel bitter about anything to do with Don King cause he'd always go back to him, bringing iit upon himself after knowing that King is just a theif

[Master]

Holmes was never as good as Ali, he needs to accept that. Technically Ali was poor but he was great in all the other ways, heart, chin, stamina and classic opposition.

[gyrokai]

Holmes was never as good as Ali, he needs to accept that. Technically Ali was poor but he was great in all the other ways, heart, chin, stamina and classic opposition.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Sums it up nicely.

Holmes is looking at the technical aspect of boxing. There's more to it, of course, that's why we all watch it.

[ICB]

Holmes was never as good as Ali, he needs to accept that. Technically Ali was poor but he was great in all the other ways, heart, chin, stamina and classic opposition.

Taking away the classic opposition because he clearly can't compete with Muhammad Ali's competition. But in all the other area's he showed as much Heart, Chin, Stamina, as Muhammad Ali did.

Check out his fights against Earnie Shavers 2, Renaldo Snipes, Ken Norton, Mike Weaver, ETC. For a mixture of all those things you mentioned there, Chin, Heart, Stamina.