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Looks like it was changed to a no contest after being ruled a tech decision for Minto.Officials found that his cut sustained during the 4th round was caused by a punch rather than a headbutt?
Good to see the review and effort at getting it right but...shouldn't this be a TKO for Holmes???
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nope. i heard that this is the correct call though. not sure :confused:
don't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruledQuote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras
:shrug03:going by what i heardQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdon't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruledQuote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras
but its not right. A cut caused by a punch is a TKO, if its a headbutt before 4 completed rounds its a no contest, after 4 rounds it goes to the scorecards.Quote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras:shrug03:going by what i heardQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdon't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruledQuote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras
Thats where I'm at on it.Very similiar situations and surely Campbell/Bradley aftermath comes into play as far as the review but no where near the publicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdon't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruledQuote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras
I have little interest in watching two lower level spongy heavys having a go but would love to see this one,how it was unfolding and the cut itself.But seems twisted.....Holmes recieved satisfaction in taking the "L" off his record but almost a slap in that they found it to be a punch that caused the cut,Minto cannot see and told Doctor,fight stopped,no matter if it happened that night or days later.....thats a tech knockout,game over.The inside of 4 rounds becomes mute.Half hearted effort in 'getting it right'?Who reviews the reviewers lol.
Maybe the argument is that Minto would have continued on had he known it was a cut. Which of course just makes it his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThats where I'm at on it.Very similiar situations and surely Campbell/Bradley aftermath comes into play as far as the review but no where near the publicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdon't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruledQuote:
Originally Posted by jokaleras
I have little interest in watching two lower level spongy heavys having a go but would love to see this one,how it was unfolding and the cut itself.But seems twisted.....Holmes recieved satisfaction in taking the "L" off his record but almost a slap in that they found it to be a punch that caused the cut,Minto cannot see and told Doctor,fight stopped,no matter if it happened that night or days later.....thats a tech knockout,game over.The inside of 4 rounds becomes mute.Half hearted effort in 'getting it right'?Who reviews the reviewers lol.
Oh man it gets better.Just read that the NC ruling as a result of the review was only a "recommendation" and the Tech win stands :cwm13:.....at least for 2 weeks.Smells like a little CYA if you ask me.Has to be record time there when it comes to reviewing the reviews of an initial ruling.My head hurts now ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinMaybe the argument is that Minto would have continued on had he known it was a cut. Which of course just makes it his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThats where I'm at on it.Very similiar situations and surely Campbell/Bradley aftermath comes into play as far as the review but no where near the publicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I have little interest in watching two lower level spongy heavys having a go but would love to see this one,how it was unfolding and the cut itself.But seems twisted.....Holmes recieved satisfaction in taking the "L" off his record but almost a slap in that they found it to be a punch that caused the cut,Minto cannot see and told Doctor,fight stopped,no matter if it happened that night or days later.....thats a tech knockout,game over.The inside of 4 rounds becomes mute.Half hearted effort in 'getting it right'?Who reviews the reviewers lol.
Yeah I heard about this, sounds like the right decision. I do know that both camps are up in arms about the whole affair though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
it's pretty ridiculous, just another clean cut reason as to why boxing needs instant replay badlyQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliOh man it gets better.Just read that the NC ruling as a result of the review was only a "recommendation" and the Tech win stands :cwm13:.....at least for 2 weeks.Smells like a little CYA if you ask me.Has to be record time there when it comes to reviewing the reviews of an initial ruling.My head hurts now ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinMaybe the argument is that Minto would have continued on had he known it was a cut. Which of course just makes it his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
You mean a punch?Shame a guy cannot rest assured at an officials initial ruling and this speaks even more to why replay is a must at the moment and not in hindsight sitting around a table.Would take all of what,30 seconds?This ones odd.I agree though that if a fighter works the rules,no evidence that he did,they have to shoulder the fortune or mis fortune.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinMaybe the argument is that Minto would have continued on had he known it was a cut. Which of course just makes it his own fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliThats where I'm at on it.Very similiar situations and surely Campbell/Bradley aftermath comes into play as far as the review but no where near the publicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I have little interest in watching two lower level spongy heavys having a go but would love to see this one,how it was unfolding and the cut itself.But seems twisted.....Holmes recieved satisfaction in taking the "L" off his record but almost a slap in that they found it to be a punch that caused the cut,Minto cannot see and told Doctor,fight stopped,no matter if it happened that night or days later.....thats a tech knockout,game over.The inside of 4 rounds becomes mute.Half hearted effort in 'getting it right'?Who reviews the reviewers lol.