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    Default Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Looks like it was changed to a no contest after being ruled a tech decision for Minto.Officials found that his cut sustained during the 4th round was caused by a punch rather than a headbutt?

    Good to see the review and effort at getting it right but...shouldn't this be a TKO for Holmes
    Minto-Holmes result changed | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7

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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    nope. i heard that this is the correct call though. not sure

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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    nope. i heard that this is the correct call though. not sure
    don't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruled

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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    nope. i heard that this is the correct call though. not sure
    don't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruled
    going by what i heard

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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    nope. i heard that this is the correct call though. not sure
    don't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruled
    going by what i heard
    but its not right. A cut caused by a punch is a TKO, if its a headbutt before 4 completed rounds its a no contest, after 4 rounds it goes to the scorecards.
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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    nope. i heard that this is the correct call though. not sure
    don't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruled
    Thats where I'm at on it.Very similiar situations and surely Campbell/Bradley aftermath comes into play as far as the review but no where near the publicity.

    I have little interest in watching two lower level spongy heavys having a go but would love to see this one,how it was unfolding and the cut itself.But seems twisted.....Holmes recieved satisfaction in taking the "L" off his record but almost a slap in that they found it to be a punch that caused the cut,Minto cannot see and told Doctor,fight stopped,no matter if it happened that night or days later.....thats a tech knockout,game over.The inside of 4 rounds becomes mute.Half hearted effort in 'getting it right'?Who reviews the reviewers lol.
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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    nope. i heard that this is the correct call though. not sure
    don't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruled
    Thats where I'm at on it.Very similiar situations and surely Campbell/Bradley aftermath comes into play as far as the review but no where near the publicity.

    I have little interest in watching two lower level spongy heavys having a go but would love to see this one,how it was unfolding and the cut itself.But seems twisted.....Holmes recieved satisfaction in taking the "L" off his record but almost a slap in that they found it to be a punch that caused the cut,Minto cannot see and told Doctor,fight stopped,no matter if it happened that night or days later.....thats a tech knockout,game over.The inside of 4 rounds becomes mute.Half hearted effort in 'getting it right'?Who reviews the reviewers lol.
    Maybe the argument is that Minto would have continued on had he known it was a cut. Which of course just makes it his own fault.

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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post

    don't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruled
    Thats where I'm at on it.Very similiar situations and surely Campbell/Bradley aftermath comes into play as far as the review but no where near the publicity.

    I have little interest in watching two lower level spongy heavys having a go but would love to see this one,how it was unfolding and the cut itself.But seems twisted.....Holmes recieved satisfaction in taking the "L" off his record but almost a slap in that they found it to be a punch that caused the cut,Minto cannot see and told Doctor,fight stopped,no matter if it happened that night or days later.....thats a tech knockout,game over.The inside of 4 rounds becomes mute.Half hearted effort in 'getting it right'?Who reviews the reviewers lol.
    Maybe the argument is that Minto would have continued on had he known it was a cut. Which of course just makes it his own fault.
    Oh man it gets better.Just read that the NC ruling as a result of the review was only a "recommendation" and the Tech win stands .....at least for 2 weeks.Smells like a little CYA if you ask me.Has to be record time there when it comes to reviewing the reviews of an initial ruling.My head hurts now

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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Looks like it was changed to a no contest after being ruled a tech decision for Minto.Officials found that his cut sustained during the 4th round was caused by a punch rather than a headbutt?

    Good to see the review and effort at getting it right but...shouldn't this be a TKO for Holmes
    Minto-Holmes result changed | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
    Yeah I heard about this, sounds like the right decision. I do know that both camps are up in arms about the whole affair though.
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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Thats where I'm at on it.Very similiar situations and surely Campbell/Bradley aftermath comes into play as far as the review but no where near the publicity.

    I have little interest in watching two lower level spongy heavys having a go but would love to see this one,how it was unfolding and the cut itself.But seems twisted.....Holmes recieved satisfaction in taking the "L" off his record but almost a slap in that they found it to be a punch that caused the cut,Minto cannot see and told Doctor,fight stopped,no matter if it happened that night or days later.....thats a tech knockout,game over.The inside of 4 rounds becomes mute.Half hearted effort in 'getting it right'?Who reviews the reviewers lol.
    Maybe the argument is that Minto would have continued on had he known it was a cut. Which of course just makes it his own fault.
    Oh man it gets better.Just read that the NC ruling as a result of the review was only a "recommendation" and the Tech win stands .....at least for 2 weeks.Smells like a little CYA if you ask me.Has to be record time there when it comes to reviewing the reviews of an initial ruling.My head hurts now
    it's pretty ridiculous, just another clean cut reason as to why boxing needs instant replay badly

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    Default Re: Minto vs Holmes...anyone see this fight?

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post

    don't see how the hell it'd be the correct call, it'd only be a No Contest if the cut had come by a headbutt before the 4th and it ended before the 4th, if the cut was caused by a punch, doesn't matter what round, it's a TKO, look at the bullshit they tried to push in the Campbell/Bradley fight before it was overruled
    Thats where I'm at on it.Very similiar situations and surely Campbell/Bradley aftermath comes into play as far as the review but no where near the publicity.

    I have little interest in watching two lower level spongy heavys having a go but would love to see this one,how it was unfolding and the cut itself.But seems twisted.....Holmes recieved satisfaction in taking the "L" off his record but almost a slap in that they found it to be a punch that caused the cut,Minto cannot see and told Doctor,fight stopped,no matter if it happened that night or days later.....thats a tech knockout,game over.The inside of 4 rounds becomes mute.Half hearted effort in 'getting it right'?Who reviews the reviewers lol.
    Maybe the argument is that Minto would have continued on had he known it was a cut. Which of course just makes it his own fault.
    You mean a punch?Shame a guy cannot rest assured at an officials initial ruling and this speaks even more to why replay is a must at the moment and not in hindsight sitting around a table.Would take all of what,30 seconds?This ones odd.I agree though that if a fighter works the rules,no evidence that he did,they have to shoulder the fortune or mis fortune.

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