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Shannon Briggs commented that Vitali was better than both George Foreman AND Lennox Lewis. Now I have my doubts but it got me to thinking.
Big George from the 70's vs Lennox Lewis in the late 90's or early part of the 2000's.
How bout bigger George Foreman on his comeback campaign (the version Briggs barely beat) vs the same Lewis.
How you see these two hypotheticals going?
How about a prime Vitali's chances vs both versions of Big George?
Foreman couldn't deal with Lewis. Too big, too powerful.
Lewis was a strong motherfucker probabably as strong as Foreman so if it came to it, I think Lewis' superrior skills and accuracy would of found Foreman in a lot of trouble.
That's if Lewis brought his A game of course.... I'm not sure that would be a guarantee against an old Foreman :confused:
i highly doubt that Lewis was stronger than Foreman, and it's not like George was a small heavyweight hell he was called Big George for a reason, old Lewis beats a young George mainly cause he was sloppy and Lewis would keep him at the end of his jab all night long while George winged away and hit nothing or gloves, old Foreman would blast out an overconfident young Lewis by snapping his jab then firing the straight right right behind it and dropping him like a ton of bricks, IMO both guys would have beaten Vitali
I really see a peak Lewis being too sharp,calm and pin point for young rough house and wiiiide reckless Foreman of 70's. That uppercut would be hellish on him. Take early comebacking Foreman to beat Lewis and Tyson though of respected times. That jab was b.r.u.t.a.l. Now the slow version that got robbed vs duck and cover Shannon Briggs was terrible and got ears boxed badly by Shultz,Morrison prior...thinking Lewis does the same.
Take either Foreman to beat Vitali...
I would seriously give even a young George a good to decent shot at beating any version of Lewis. Why you ask? Foreman is one of the hardest hitting HWs ever, hell it could be argued that he may be the hardest hitting HW of all time. When you lift a 215 pound Frazier off the canvas with 1 of your uppercuts, that's a hell a lot of power and strength. Lewis too iffy of a chin. Sure young George was reckless, but if he connected it would be lights out on Lewis, best believe that.
Here's another what if concerning Foreman. What if the prime Foreman had the boxing smarts and maturity of the old Foreman? That would be 1 hell of a fighter. :o
How about a prime Vitali's chances vs both versions of Big George?
Can't believe so many people are taking and old version of George to beat vitali...I mean the old george that got beat by schulz but got a gift, the one getting his ass boxed off by moorer before the knockout shot. I can't see an old george beating a prime vitali, vitali is quicker, and he's not going to get caught and knocked out with one shot like moorer did. As for a young george against a prime vitali who the hell knows, honestly think it could go either way. Prime lewis mostly likely takes both versions, but his chin is dentable and george does pack a punch.
What if we ban you.:)
Well there's no way to judge who the strongest is but I can tell you that Evander Holyfield recently stated that only two fighters were stronger than him in his career and they were both Foreman and Lewis.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Mate, 'Big' George stood at 6ft 31/2 and weighed on average 225lbs. (sort of 'on par' with a Razor Ruddock type frame)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
For the better part of his career, Lennox Lewis was always around 245lbs and stood at 6ft 5 so he was way bigger.
i reckon lewis would have won 9 times out of 10 against foreman at any stage of his carear
the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! you fucking crack me up!Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
Ali, Louis, Holmes, Frazier, and hell even Holyfield have all accomplished more than Lewis and the Klitschko's, better opposition and more career defining fights, and definitely more skilled
ps: by your own admission then Haye isn't shit compared to Wlad or Vitali then
...In your opinion ofcourse.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
Would not ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::...In your opinion ofcourse.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
Regarding the young and prime George Foreman...
You better come with steel balls and granite chin, if it's in your destiny to face the badass, that is George Foreman, or you have no chance whatsoever!
The guy equipped with the best "tools of destruction" in the ring, equally brought everynight, the "hate of mankind" that can only spell doom to and for, any game oncomers.
Size alone will not deter the Big Bad George of old to administer this first class beating, with that said, the Klitschkos and Lewis are vulnerable. These three "superheavies", maybe just a bit Lewis, likewise, leave a lot on the "intestinal fortitude" and the "G-force" department, to have a decent go at it with Big George.
Ali, was fortunate enough to have both attributes, plus the "novelty" gameplan at fightnight in Kinshasha, Zaire, working to perfection, hence the one-of-the-, if not the greatest triumph reversal in the sport of boxing, when as a heavy underdog, he beat the mighty George, knocking him silly in round eight!
Regarding the older version, and second time around champ, George Foreman...
The Klitschkos will beat the older version of George Foreman, it is not even going to be close. Big George will be pummelled, for without the benefit of an excellent cardio and with significantly diminished agility, this result is unavoidable. This is a root canal visit for George, at the dental office.
Prime Lewis, and under Steward, with his A game, has an excellent chance of beating the older version of George... and maybe...just maybe, with his excellent boxing skills with size to boot and speed skill-set, an outside chance of beating even the prime George Foreman. As long as that chin would not a "Rahman" be exposed, then by all means, a decent shot!
My two cents... hate these what if scenarios! Hehehe!
are you kidding me? Lewis has jack shit on Muhammad Ali, Lewis was just lucky that he was champ when the division started to hit it's weakest pointQuote:
Originally Posted by J da BombaWould not ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::...In your opinion ofcourse.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
...in 2 nights? :-\ maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by J da BombaWould not ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::...In your opinion ofcourse.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
;D