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    Default Re: I'm addicted to what-ifs

    i reckon lewis would have won 9 times out of 10 against foreman at any stage of his carear

    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i reckon lewis would have won 9 times out of 10 against foreman at any stage of his carear

    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! you fucking crack me up!

    Ali, Louis, Holmes, Frazier, and hell even Holyfield have all accomplished more than Lewis and the Klitschko's, better opposition and more career defining fights, and definitely more skilled

    ps: by your own admission then Haye isn't shit compared to Wlad or Vitali then
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    Regarding the young and prime George Foreman...

    You better come with steel balls and granite chin, if it's in your destiny to face the badass, that is George Foreman, or you have no chance whatsoever!

    The guy equipped with the best "tools of destruction" in the ring, equally brought everynight, the "hate of mankind" that can only spell doom to and for, any game oncomers.

    Size alone will not deter the Big Bad George of old to administer this first class beating, with that said, the Klitschkos and Lewis are vulnerable. These three "superheavies", maybe just a bit Lewis, likewise, leave a lot on the "intestinal fortitude" and the "G-force" department, to have a decent go at it with Big George.

    Ali, was fortunate enough to have both attributes, plus the "novelty" gameplan at fightnight in Kinshasha, Zaire, working to perfection, hence the one-of-the-, if not the greatest triumph reversal in the sport of boxing, when as a heavy underdog, he beat the mighty George, knocking him silly in round eight!

    Regarding the older version, and second time around champ, George Foreman...

    The Klitschkos will beat the older version of George Foreman, it is not even going to be close. Big George will be pummelled, for without the benefit of an excellent cardio and with significantly diminished agility, this result is unavoidable. This is a root canal visit for George, at the dental office.

    Prime Lewis, and under Steward, with his A game, has an excellent chance of beating the older version of George... and maybe...just maybe, with his excellent boxing skills with size to boot and speed skill-set, an outside chance of beating even the prime George Foreman. As long as that chin would not a "Rahman" be exposed, then by all means, a decent shot!

    My two cents... hate these what if scenarios! Hehehe!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i reckon lewis would have won 9 times out of 10 against foreman at any stage of his carear

    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! you fucking crack me up!

    Ali, Louis, Holmes, Frazier, and hell even Holyfield have all accomplished more than Lewis and the Klitschko's, better opposition and more career defining fights, and definitely more skilled

    ps: by your own admission then Haye isn't shit compared to Wlad or Vitali then
    if we are comparing them against their time perhaps not, but if lewis for example got in the ring with any of those you mentioned both at their peaks there would be only one winner

    i dont understand your last sentence

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    My own thoughts go something like this..

    Lennox poses a sizeable problem to George simply due to his accuracy and power. BUT Lewis had a lot of bad habits too, especially before being KO'ed. Young George can't box worth a piss, but he can hit like a Sherman tank. Lewis liked to stand up tall and he didn't fancy running. Young George has a serious shot of connecting with something barbaric and savagely ending Lewis's night.

    Old George probably gets beat up pretty bad against a prime Lewis. There's always the one-shot wonder, ala Moorer/Foreman scenario, but I give that about a 5% chance of playing out. Dumb luck really.

    Vitali I think has not been fairly represented in this matchup. Versus the old comebacking George, I see this a landslide victory for Vitali. Too tall, too long, and knows how to fight tall and keep guys at the end of his jab. George gasses and loses a UD. That said, I don't think Vitali stops him, just beats him.

    The younger George versus Vitali.... well now thats a humdinger. I've never even seen Vitali hurt, but you gotta imagine the fella to do it is the 70's version that blasted Joe and Kenny into the stratosphere. An older, ill-trained Lewis smacked Vitali with some hellacious shots and Vit took them like a champ, but call me crazy, Lennox's big right isn't quite what the Houston hooker's was back then. Could Vitali have been smart enough to rope-a-dope and be patient and paw and jab and wait for George to gas? Maybe. Good chance of it, I think. But if he couldn't.... there's the guy that knocks Vitali out cold.

    For the love of God, I want to see the Lewis/Klitschko fight finished. Oh but it WAS finished, Balboa, didnt you see? It got stopped on cuts! Not. Acceptable.
    Hey, yo Tommy, I didn't hear no bell.
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    Default Re: I'm addicted to what-ifs

    Also,

    I see the Ali song and dance going now. I hated Ali for what he did to my George, and I hated his loud mouth and I hated him beating Joe twice and I hated his Mayweather-ish bullsh*t.

    But.....


    He is, hands down, the greatest heavyweight of all time. He. Had. It. ALL.
    Hey, yo Tommy, I didn't hear no bell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    i reckon lewis would have won 9 times out of 10 against foreman at any stage of his carear

    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! you fucking crack me up!

    Ali, Louis, Holmes, Frazier, and hell even Holyfield have all accomplished more than Lewis and the Klitschko's, better opposition and more career defining fights, and definitely more skilled

    ps: by your own admission then Haye isn't shit compared to Wlad or Vitali then
    Who did Holmes and Frazier beat that made their resume better than Lewis or Holyfield's?

    Besides a Ali, who did Joe beat of any great consequence? Even the Klitschko brother's beat more impressive opposition than most of the guys Joe beat.

    Are you going to say Ellis and Quary are amazing fighters? Or Chuvalo?

    Same with Holmes. He fought in a weaker division than it is right now.

    Lewis would have likely beaten any heavyweight in the history of the sport if he was properly trained. Nobody had his combination of intelligence, athleticism, size, skill, and heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    ...In your opinion ofcourse.

    But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    ...In your opinion ofcourse.

    But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
    Would not

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    Quote Originally Posted by J da Bomba View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    ...In your opinion ofcourse.

    But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
    Would not
    are you kidding me? Lewis has jack shit on Muhammad Ali, Lewis was just lucky that he was champ when the division started to hit it's weakest point

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    Quote Originally Posted by J da Bomba View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    ...In your opinion ofcourse.

    But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
    Would not
    ...in 2 nights? maybe?


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    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J da Bomba View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    ...In your opinion ofcourse.

    But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
    Would not
    ...in 2 nights? maybe?

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    ...In your opinion ofcourse.

    But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
    ali is the most overrated boxer in history by a long way

    he was great for the sport, and fantastic entertainment inside and outside the ring but massively overrated in terms of his ability

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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
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    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    ...In your opinion ofcourse.

    But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
    ali is the most overrated boxer in history by a long way

    he was great for the sport, and fantastic entertainment inside and outside the ring but massively overrated in terms of his ability
    yet he was the first 3 time heavyweight champion, had wins over Liston, Cooper, Patterson, Moore, Chuvalo, Terrell, Quarry, Bonavena, Frazier, Ellis, Norton, Foreman, Lyle, Shavers, and Spinks, he avenged every loss except those against Holmes and Berbick which came when he was completely shot and already suffering from symptoms of Parkinsons

    overrarted my ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by :::PSL::: View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights
    ...In your opinion ofcourse.

    But a prime Ali would whip their asses in one night.
    ali is the most overrated boxer in history by a long way

    he was great for the sport, and fantastic entertainment inside and outside the ring but massively overrated in terms of his ability
    yet he was the first 3 time heavyweight champion, had wins over Liston, Cooper, Patterson, Moore, Chuvalo, Terrell, Quarry, Bonavena, Frazier, Ellis, Norton, Foreman, Lyle, Shavers, and Spinks, he avenged every loss except those against Holmes and Berbick which came when he was completely shot and already suffering from symptoms of Parkinsons

    overrarted my ass
    cooper had lost 10 fights or something by the time he fought ali

    people laugh at haye defending against harrison or wlad defending against chisora, those boys defending against a cooper nowadays would be much more laughable

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