I'm addicted to what-ifs

[ElTerribleMorales]

i highly doubt that Lewis was stronger than Foreman, and it's not like George was a small heavyweight hell he was called Big George for a reason, old Lewis beats a young George mainly cause he was sloppy and Lewis would keep him at the end of his jab all night long while George winged away and hit nothing or gloves, old Foreman would blast out an overconfident young Lewis by snapping his jab then firing the straight right right behind it and dropping him like a ton of bricks, IMO both guys would have beaten Vitali

[Spicoli]

I really see a peak Lewis being too sharp,calm and pin point for young rough house and wiiiide reckless Foreman of 70's. That uppercut would be hellish on him. Take early comebacking Foreman to beat Lewis and Tyson though of respected times. That jab was b.r.u.t.a.l. Now the slow version that got robbed vs duck and cover Shannon Briggs was terrible and got ears boxed badly by Shultz,Morrison prior...thinking Lewis does the same.

Take either Foreman to beat Vitali...

[generalbulldog]

I would seriously give even a young George a good to decent shot at beating any version of Lewis. Why you ask? Foreman is one of the hardest hitting HWs ever, hell it could be argued that he may be the hardest hitting HW of all time. When you lift a 215 pound Frazier off the canvas with 1 of your uppercuts, that's a hell a lot of power and strength. Lewis too iffy of a chin. Sure young George was reckless, but if he connected it would be lights out on Lewis, best believe that.

Here's another what if concerning Foreman. What if the prime Foreman had the boxing smarts and maturity of the old Foreman? That would be 1 hell of a fighter.

[armin]

How about a prime Vitali's chances vs both versions of Big George?

Can't believe so many people are taking and old version of George to beat vitali...I mean the old george that got beat by schulz but got a gift, the one getting his ass boxed off by moorer before the knockout shot. I can't see an old george beating a prime vitali, vitali is quicker, and he's not going to get caught and knocked out with one shot like moorer did. As for a young george against a prime vitali who the hell knows, honestly think it could go either way. Prime lewis mostly likely takes both versions, but his chin is dentable and george does pack a punch.

[Andre]

What if we ban you.

[Taeth]

I would seriously give even a young George a good to decent shot at beating any version of Lewis. Why you ask? Foreman is one of the hardest hitting HWs ever, hell it could be argued that he may be the hardest hitting HW of all time. When you lift a 215 pound Frazier off the canvas with 1 of your uppercuts, that's a hell a lot of power and strength. Lewis too iffy of a chin. Sure young George was reckless, but if he connected it would be lights out on Lewis, best believe that.

Here's another what if concerning Foreman. What if the prime Foreman had the boxing smarts and maturity of the old Foreman? That would be 1 hell of a fighter.

Lewis took hits from Tua fine, and Foreman was also a relatively plodding fighter, how would he have teld with Lennox's jab? Also Lewis was able to land a shot as hard as anyone, and he could have knocked young FOreman out cold.

[generalbulldog]

I would seriously give even a young George a good to decent shot at beating any version of Lewis. Why you ask? Foreman is one of the hardest hitting HWs ever, hell it could be argued that he may be the hardest hitting HW of all time. When you lift a 215 pound Frazier off the canvas with 1 of your uppercuts, that's a hell a lot of power and strength. Lewis too iffy of a chin. Sure young George was reckless, but if he connected it would be lights out on Lewis, best believe that.

Here's another what if concerning Foreman. What if the prime Foreman had the boxing smarts and maturity of the old Foreman? That would be 1 hell of a fighter.

Lewis took hits from Tua fine, and Foreman was also a relatively plodding fighter, how would he have teld with Lennox's jab? Also Lewis was able to land a shot as hard as anyone, and he could have knocked young FOreman out cold.

None of those shots from Tua landed flush, in fact most missed. All I know is McCall and Rahman ko Lewis and I'm willing to bet that Foreman hits much harder than those guys.
And then your other excuse why Lewis got ko was that he hardly train that's why he got ko. Tyson hardly train at all against Douglass and he took massive damage from that fight taking flush shots. Hell even a shot/past his prime Tyson still took massive flush shots from Lewis before going down. Lewis chin at best was average and it isn't granite as you make it out to be. And as I said before, if Prime Foreman connects it's nighty night for Lewis.

[Master]

Lewis did not lose to fighters that he respected, I think he would beat George because Lewis would not allow himself to be complacent as he could not afford to take chances against George. Lewis could even pull a Ruddock like victory because George was crude at times.

[TitoFan]

I have no issues that a focused Lewis would have a good chance against Foreman. And yes... Foreman WAS crude and rudimentary. What I do have a problem with is the argument about Lewis having a granite chin. Tua did NOT test it, and a couple of run-of-the-mill fighters got 1-punch KO's against him. It's OK to be a fan, but keep it realistic.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

i highly doubt that Lewis was stronger than Foreman,

Well there's no way to judge who the strongest is but I can tell you that Evander Holyfield recently stated that only two fighters were stronger than him in his career and they were both Foreman and Lewis.

and it's not like George was a small heavyweight hell he was called Big George for a reason,

Mate, 'Big' George stood at 6ft 31/2 and weighed on average 225lbs. (sort of 'on par' with a Razor Ruddock type frame)
For the better part of his career, Lennox Lewis was always around 245lbs and stood at 6ft 5 so he was way bigger.

[erics44]

i reckon lewis would have won 9 times out of 10 against foreman at any stage of his carear

the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights

[ElTerribleMorales]

i reckon lewis would have won 9 times out of 10 against foreman at any stage of his carear

the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! you fucking crack me up!

Ali, Louis, Holmes, Frazier, and hell even Holyfield have all accomplished more than Lewis and the Klitschko's, better opposition and more career defining fights, and definitely more skilled

ps: by your own admission then Haye isn't shit compared to Wlad or Vitali then

[KananKrus]

Regarding the young and prime George Foreman...

You better come with steel balls and granite chin, if it's in your destiny to face the badass, that is George Foreman, or you have no chance whatsoever!

The guy equipped with the best "tools of destruction" in the ring, equally brought everynight, the "hate of mankind" that can only spell doom to and for, any game oncomers.

Size alone will not deter the Big Bad George of old to administer this first class beating, with that said, the Klitschkos and Lewis are vulnerable. These three "superheavies", maybe just a bit Lewis, likewise, leave a lot on the "intestinal fortitude" and the "G-force" department, to have a decent go at it with Big George.

Ali, was fortunate enough to have both attributes, plus the "novelty" gameplan at fightnight in Kinshasha, Zaire, working to perfection, hence the one-of-the-, if not the greatest triumph reversal in the sport of boxing, when as a heavy underdog, he beat the mighty George, knocking him silly in round eight!

Regarding the older version, and second time around champ, George Foreman...

The Klitschkos will beat the older version of George Foreman, it is not even going to be close. Big George will be pummelled, for without the benefit of an excellent cardio and with significantly diminished agility, this result is unavoidable. This is a root canal visit for George, at the dental office.

Prime Lewis, and under Steward, with his A game, has an excellent chance of beating the older version of George... and maybe...just maybe, with his excellent boxing skills with size to boot and speed skill-set, an outside chance of beating even the prime George Foreman. As long as that chin would not a "Rahman" be exposed, then by all means, a decent shot!

My two cents... hate these what if scenarios! Hehehe!

[erics44]

i reckon lewis would have won 9 times out of 10 against foreman at any stage of his carear

the klits and lewis are the best three fighters in the history of the heavyweights

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! you fucking crack me up!

Ali, Louis, Holmes, Frazier, and hell even Holyfield have all accomplished more than Lewis and the Klitschko's, better opposition and more career defining fights, and definitely more skilled

ps: by your own admission then Haye isn't shit compared to Wlad or Vitali then

if we are comparing them against their time perhaps not, but if lewis for example got in the ring with any of those you mentioned both at their peaks there would be only one winner

i dont understand your last sentence

[Balboa]

My own thoughts go something like this..

Lennox poses a sizeable problem to George simply due to his accuracy and power. BUT Lewis had a lot of bad habits too, especially before being KO'ed. Young George can't box worth a piss, but he can hit like a Sherman tank. Lewis liked to stand up tall and he didn't fancy running. Young George has a serious shot of connecting with something barbaric and savagely ending Lewis's night.

Old George probably gets beat up pretty bad against a prime Lewis. There's always the one-shot wonder, ala Moorer/Foreman scenario, but I give that about a 5% chance of playing out. Dumb luck really.

Vitali I think has not been fairly represented in this matchup. Versus the old comebacking George, I see this a landslide victory for Vitali. Too tall, too long, and knows how to fight tall and keep guys at the end of his jab. George gasses and loses a UD. That said, I don't think Vitali stops him, just beats him.

The younger George versus Vitali.... well now thats a humdinger. I've never even seen Vitali hurt, but you gotta imagine the fella to do it is the 70's version that blasted Joe and Kenny into the stratosphere. An older, ill-trained Lewis smacked Vitali with some hellacious shots and Vit took them like a champ, but call me crazy, Lennox's big right isn't quite what the Houston hooker's was back then. Could Vitali have been smart enough to rope-a-dope and be patient and paw and jab and wait for George to gas? Maybe. Good chance of it, I think. But if he couldn't.... there's the guy that knocks Vitali out cold.

For the love of God, I want to see the Lewis/Klitschko fight finished. Oh but it WAS finished, Balboa, didnt you see? It got stopped on cuts! Not. Acceptable.