Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.
You know the stereotype that southerners hate all uppity black types who dont know theyre place is certainly getting some re-enforcment on this thread
Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.
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Trainer Monkey
You know the stereotype that southerners hate all uppity black types who dont know theyre place is certainly getting some re-enforcment on this thread
Well when you put in uppity infront of anything it makes people stop and think about it fr a second....I mean if you talked about uppity people in general I don't believe I would like them either.
This thread really got out of hand though so back on topic, Bernard Hopkins said something wrong, it's not the end of the world but if you're going to watch one group for saying similar broad sweeping statements about race then you have to watch them all.
Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.
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Lyle
Well when you put in uppity infront of anything it makes people stop and think about it fr a second....I mean if you talked about uppity people in general I don't believe I would like them either.
This thread really got out of hand though so back on topic, Bernard Hopkins said something wrong, it's not the end of the world but if you're going to watch one group for saying similar broad sweeping statements about race then you have to watch them all.
Ive tried to point this out before,and the wounded idiginity of white folk is going to ignore it again
If you grew up around African Americans youd hear the phrase "white boy" but youd also here the phrase "brother"
Now if Calzaghe was from Philly and said,"There is no way Im losing to a brother",I highly doubt we'd hear a peep of this feigned indignance
You sure as hell didnt hear it going in to the most racially charged fight in the last 30 years,Holmes/Clooney
Mind you,it wasnt either of the principles who were fanning the fire
It was only the President of the United States Of America doing it
Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.
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Trainer Monkey
Ive tried to point this out before,and the wounded idiginity of white folk is going to ignore it again
If you grew up around African Americans youd hear the phrase "white boy" but youd also here the phrase "brother"
Now if Calzaghe was from Philly and said,"There is no way Im losing to a brother",I highly doubt we'd hear a peep of this feigned indignance
You sure as hell didnt hear it going in to the most racially charged fight in the last 30 years,Holmes/Clooney
Mind you,it wasnt either of the principles who were fanning the fire
It was only the President of the United States Of America doing it
I doubt that, but you're free to feel that way.
I think the actions of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson tell you all you need to know....they have no white counterparts who do similar things
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Lyle
I doubt that, but you're free to feel that way.
I think the actions of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson tell you all you need to know....they have no white counterparts who do similar things
They don't have any white counterparts because white people haven't historically been an oppressed minority in America. In terms of stirring up conflict then they don't compare to people like Limbaugh and Savage who have much bigger audiences.
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Kirkland Laing
They don't have any white counterparts because white people haven't historically been an oppressed minority in America. In terms of stirring up conflict then they don't compare to people like Limbaugh and Savage who have much bigger audiences.
Good one,dont forget Ann Coulter,Neil Boortz,Bill Orielly,The Klu Klux Klan,Aryan Nations,The Order,Christian Posse Comitatis,and Hannity
Actually it would really take a while to list all of the fanners of Supressed White Anger at having to give equal rights to people they feel superior to
I mean give credit where its due though
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Kirkland Laing
They don't have any white counterparts because white people haven't historically been an oppressed minority in America. In terms of stirring up conflict then they don't compare to people like Limbaugh and Savage who have much bigger audiences.
...I think what Limbaugh and Savage and their ilk do is a lot different than what Jackson and Sharpton do.
Jackson and Sharpton "play the race card" they extort money from legitimate businesses....it's not NASCAR's fault that black people don't like that sport and very few want to participate in it....they aren't banned from doing it though, there have been plenty of black drivers but I guess not enough for Jesse Jackson who burned them for $150,000....and Tawana Brawley was just ridiculous....but Al Sharpton got his spotlight and hasn't ever gotten tired of calling racism on EVERYTHING except for rap music.....sure Sharpton and Jackson talk about it a little bit but if they can extort money and bully sponsors why can't they do that to the rap industry???
The KKK isn't a legitimate organization TM don't be a fucking smart ass you know God damned well that isn't what I am talking about.
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Lyle
...I think what Limbaugh and Savage and their ilk do is a lot different than what Jackson and Sharpton do.
Jackson and Sharpton "play the race card" they extort money from legitimate businesses....it's not NASCAR's fault that black people don't like that sport and very few want to participate in it....they aren't banned from doing it though, there have been plenty of black drivers but I guess not enough for Jesse Jackson who burned them for $150,000....and Tawana Brawley was just ridiculous....but Al Sharpton got his spotlight and hasn't ever gotten tired of calling racism on EVERYTHING except for rap music.....sure Sharpton and Jackson talk about it a little bit but if they can extort money and bully sponsors why can't they do that to the rap industry???
The KKK isn't a legitimate organization TM don't be a fucking smart ass you know God damned well that isn't what I am talking about.
Really
This was Limbaugh proudly proclaimed himself as representing the "angry white male",and there was a stretch of highway being cleaned by the Klan.
Are you that naive that you dont know about the huge white Supremacist underground the 80's gave birth to?
For god sakes,they have their own music festivals,all over the country
Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.
....I don't want "White Supremacists" coming to my aid if something race related ever happened to me. Limbaugh is different, he's a talk show host and if you think what Bernard Hopkins said was OK then what Rush says is OK.
All I would like is a level playing field....I don't want crosses burned in people's yards or anything.
But feel free to expound upon how bad you think my views are, I don't think you or Kirkland have said anything near as sensational as you need to. Please portray me as a idiotic racist bigot....because it's so true :beat:
All I wanted to do is to call out someone for saying something inappropriate and just so long as Bernard knows he doesn't need to do that to drum up excitement about the fight is all that needs to happen....is that bad? Is it too harsh? Am I being unreasonable by expecting similar consequences for black people as for white people....you know most enlightened people would say "Hey, he wants everyone to be treated equal, that's awesome, great job, way to go!"
But no, I get berated by you two, thanks, I appreciate it, your arguements against me are so needed and well based in reality....keep up the good work
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Lyle
....I don't want "White Supremacists" coming to my aid if something race related ever happened to me. Limbaugh is different, he's a talk show host and if you think what Bernard Hopkins said was OK then what Rush says is OK.
All I would like is a level playing field....I don't want crosses burned in people's yards or anything.
But feel free to expound upon how bad you think my views are, I don't think you or Kirkland have said anything near as sensational as you need to. Please portray me as a idiotic racist bigot....because it's so true :beat:
All I wanted to do is to call out someone for saying something inappropriate and just so long as Bernard knows he doesn't need to do that to drum up excitement about the fight is all that needs to happen....is that bad? Is it too harsh? Am I being unreasonable by expecting similar consequences for black people as for white people....you know most enlightened people would say "Hey, he wants everyone to be treated equal, that's awesome, great job, way to go!"
But no, I get berated by you two, thanks, I appreciate it, your arguements against me are so needed and well based in reality....keep up the good work
Oh whatever Limbloat says is okey dokey,he has a right to say it
Of course I have a right to respond as well
Ill admit,Bernard sometimes has a hard time getting his head out of Germantown/Graterford
But to use him to excuse the wild rantings of someone who is paid to talk,and talk alone is silly
Interestingly enough,something to consider
I drop a white boy in the middle of Germantown
And a black boy in the middle of Society Hill
Which 7 year old do you think is more likely to get fed and cared for?
(I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it)
Re: B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.
I didn't try to compare Rush and Hopkins, I compared Rush to Jackson and Sharpton.
I'm not making the arguement that everything Rush says is OK nor that everything Hopkins says is bad...so far as I know this is the only bad thing Bernard has said and my whole arguement was that it was wrong and he should have known better because he has been in the public eye for quite some time and he's become a promoter and he should know better.
Why are you trying to hammer home a point that by this time is absolutely worthless....yeah so Bernard grew up poor and in a bad town, same town you did apparently but hey this is fucking boxing, show me some boxers that were handed everything and grew up rich and in great neighborhoods.....and how many times does this kind of blatant racist remark surface from such a popular fighter???
Bernard was wrong for saying what he said, he doesn't need any punishment but he should know better and that is all I am saying so if you're going to argue with that go right ahead but know that by arguing with me you're either saying "There is nothing wrong with what Hopkins said" or "He needs to be punished" and I think both of those are wrong, all that needs to be said is that he should know better and don't let it become a habit
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
I didn't try to compare Rush and Hopkins, I compared Rush to Jackson and Sharpton.
I'm not making the arguement that everything Rush says is OK nor that everything Hopkins says is bad...so far as I know this is the only bad thing Bernard has said and my whole arguement was that it was wrong and he should have known better because he has been in the public eye for quite some time and he's become a promoter and he should know better.
Why are you trying to hammer home a point that by this time is absolutely worthless....yeah so Bernard grew up poor and in a bad town, same town you did apparently but hey this is fucking boxing, show me some boxers that were handed everything and grew up rich and in great neighborhoods.....and how many times does this kind of blatant racist remark surface from such a popular fighter???
Bernard was wrong for saying what he said, he doesn't need any punishment but he should know better and that is all I am saying so if you're going to argue with that go right ahead but know that by arguing with me you're either saying "There is nothing wrong with what Hopkins said" or "He needs to be punished" and I think both of those are wrong, all that needs to be said is that he should know better and don't let it become a habit
Show me a great fight that was sold nicely?
Your right this is boxing
Cooney/Holmes got sold nastily
Ali/Frazier has only recently been resolved between the two principles
It happens all the time
As far as Limbloat,your compairing the god of the "Republican Revolution" to two guys nobody has really listened to in 20 years
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Trainer Monkey
Oh whatever Limbloat says is okey dokey,he has a right to say it
Of course I have a right to respond as well
Ill admit,Bernard sometimes has a hard time getting his head out of Germantown/Graterford
But to use him to excuse the wild rantings of someone who is paid to talk,and talk alone is silly
Interestingly enough,something to consider
I drop a white boy in the middle of Germantown
And a black boy in the middle of Society Hill
Which 7 year old do you think is more likely to get fed and cared for?
(I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it)
Which one the middle of Germantown or the middle of Society Hill would it be safer for your wife to go on an evening stroll around 10:00 saturday night?I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it
West Virginia Population White 95.0%,Black 3.2%.Why did you leave Germantown and move to WV? I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it.
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USA LOVES THE KLITSCHOS
Which one the middle of Germantown or the middle of Society Hill would it be safer for your wife to go on an evening stroll around 10:00 saturday night?I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it
West Virginia Population White 95.0%,Black 3.2%.Why did you leave Germantown and move to WV? I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it.
Yeah I know the awnser
Our jobs got downsized and we like mountains
It costs a fortune to live anywhere near Philly unless you want an unmaintained apartment
I miss Philly,but I couldnt afford to live there comfortably
I just dont make that kind of scratch
Not the awnser you were hoping for,but there it is.
When we used to hit the Zoo we routinely stopped at the Checkers on Broad Street,Ooooooooooooooooo smack to your point
Last time the wife visited her folks she trained at Fraziers,ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o bigger smack to your point
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Trainer Monkey
Yeah I know the awnser
Our jobs got downsized and we like mountains
It costs a fortune to live anywhere near Philly unless you want an unmaintained apartment
I miss Philly,but I couldnt afford to live there comfortably
I just dont make that kind of scratch
Not the awnser you were hoping for,but there it is.
When we used to hit the Zoo we routinely stopped at the Checkers on Broad Street,Ooooooooooooooooo smack to your point
Last time the wife visited her folks she trained at Fraziers,ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o bigger smack to your point
All this at 10:00 saturday night?
