B Hop explains racial slur:says he didn't mean it,was just to sell fights.

[El Kabong]

They don't have any white counterparts because white people haven't historically been an oppressed minority in America. In terms of stirring up conflict then they don't compare to people like Limbaugh and Savage who have much bigger audiences.

...I think what Limbaugh and Savage and their ilk do is a lot different than what Jackson and Sharpton do.

Jackson and Sharpton "play the race card" they extort money from legitimate businesses....it's not NASCAR's fault that black people don't like that sport and very few want to participate in it....they aren't banned from doing it though, there have been plenty of black drivers but I guess not enough for Jesse Jackson who burned them for $150,000....and Tawana Brawley was just ridiculous....but Al Sharpton got his spotlight and hasn't ever gotten tired of calling racism on EVERYTHING except for rap music.....sure Sharpton and Jackson talk about it a little bit but if they can extort money and bully sponsors why can't they do that to the rap industry

The KKK isn't a legitimate organization TM don't be a fucking smart ass you know God damned well that isn't what I am talking about.

[Trainer Monkey]

...I think what Limbaugh and Savage and their ilk do is a lot different than what Jackson and Sharpton do.

Jackson and Sharpton "play the race card" they extort money from legitimate businesses....it's not NASCAR's fault that black people don't like that sport and very few want to participate in it....they aren't banned from doing it though, there have been plenty of black drivers but I guess not enough for Jesse Jackson who burned them for $150,000....and Tawana Brawley was just ridiculous....but Al Sharpton got his spotlight and hasn't ever gotten tired of calling racism on EVERYTHING except for rap music.....sure Sharpton and Jackson talk about it a little bit but if they can extort money and bully sponsors why can't they do that to the rap industry

The KKK isn't a legitimate organization TM don't be a fucking smart ass you know God damned well that isn't what I am talking about.

Really
This was Limbaugh proudly proclaimed himself as representing the "angry white male",and there was a stretch of highway being cleaned by the Klan.
Are you that naive that you dont know about the huge white Supremacist underground the 80's gave birth to?
For god sakes,they have their own music festivals,all over the country

[El Kabong]

....I don't want "White Supremacists" coming to my aid if something race related ever happened to me. Limbaugh is different, he's a talk show host and if you think what Bernard Hopkins said was OK then what Rush says is OK.


All I would like is a level playing field....I don't want crosses burned in people's yards or anything.

But feel free to expound upon how bad you think my views are, I don't think you or Kirkland have said anything near as sensational as you need to. Please portray me as a idiotic racist bigot....because it's so true

All I wanted to do is to call out someone for saying something inappropriate and just so long as Bernard knows he doesn't need to do that to drum up excitement about the fight is all that needs to happen....is that bad? Is it too harsh? Am I being unreasonable by expecting similar consequences for black people as for white people....you know most enlightened people would say "Hey, he wants everyone to be treated equal, that's awesome, great job, way to go!"

But no, I get berated by you two, thanks, I appreciate it, your arguements against me are so needed and well based in reality....keep up the good work

[Trainer Monkey]

....I don't want "White Supremacists" coming to my aid if something race related ever happened to me. Limbaugh is different, he's a talk show host and if you think what Bernard Hopkins said was OK then what Rush says is OK.


All I would like is a level playing field....I don't want crosses burned in people's yards or anything.

But feel free to expound upon how bad you think my views are, I don't think you or Kirkland have said anything near as sensational as you need to. Please portray me as a idiotic racist bigot....because it's so true

All I wanted to do is to call out someone for saying something inappropriate and just so long as Bernard knows he doesn't need to do that to drum up excitement about the fight is all that needs to happen....is that bad? Is it too harsh? Am I being unreasonable by expecting similar consequences for black people as for white people....you know most enlightened people would say "Hey, he wants everyone to be treated equal, that's awesome, great job, way to go!"

But no, I get berated by you two, thanks, I appreciate it, your arguements against me are so needed and well based in reality....keep up the good work

Oh whatever Limbloat says is okey dokey,he has a right to say it
Of course I have a right to respond as well
Ill admit,Bernard sometimes has a hard time getting his head out of Germantown/Graterford
But to use him to excuse the wild rantings of someone who is paid to talk,and talk alone is silly
Interestingly enough,something to consider
I drop a white boy in the middle of Germantown
And a black boy in the middle of Society Hill
Which 7 year old do you think is more likely to get fed and cared for?
(I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it)

[El Kabong]

I didn't try to compare Rush and Hopkins, I compared Rush to Jackson and Sharpton.


I'm not making the arguement that everything Rush says is OK nor that everything Hopkins says is bad...so far as I know this is the only bad thing Bernard has said and my whole arguement was that it was wrong and he should have known better because he has been in the public eye for quite some time and he's become a promoter and he should know better.


Why are you trying to hammer home a point that by this time is absolutely worthless....yeah so Bernard grew up poor and in a bad town, same town you did apparently but hey this is fucking boxing, show me some boxers that were handed everything and grew up rich and in great neighborhoods.....and how many times does this kind of blatant racist remark surface from such a popular fighter

Bernard was wrong for saying what he said, he doesn't need any punishment but he should know better and that is all I am saying so if you're going to argue with that go right ahead but know that by arguing with me you're either saying "There is nothing wrong with what Hopkins said" or "He needs to be punished" and I think both of those are wrong, all that needs to be said is that he should know better and don't let it become a habit

[Trainer Monkey]

I didn't try to compare Rush and Hopkins, I compared Rush to Jackson and Sharpton.


I'm not making the arguement that everything Rush says is OK nor that everything Hopkins says is bad...so far as I know this is the only bad thing Bernard has said and my whole arguement was that it was wrong and he should have known better because he has been in the public eye for quite some time and he's become a promoter and he should know better.


Why are you trying to hammer home a point that by this time is absolutely worthless....yeah so Bernard grew up poor and in a bad town, same town you did apparently but hey this is fucking boxing, show me some boxers that were handed everything and grew up rich and in great neighborhoods.....and how many times does this kind of blatant racist remark surface from such a popular fighter

Bernard was wrong for saying what he said, he doesn't need any punishment but he should know better and that is all I am saying so if you're going to argue with that go right ahead but know that by arguing with me you're either saying "There is nothing wrong with what Hopkins said" or "He needs to be punished" and I think both of those are wrong, all that needs to be said is that he should know better and don't let it become a habit

Show me a great fight that was sold nicely?
Your right this is boxing
Cooney/Holmes got sold nastily
Ali/Frazier has only recently been resolved between the two principles
It happens all the time
As far as Limbloat,your compairing the god of the "Republican Revolution" to two guys nobody has really listened to in 20 years

[USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS]

Oh whatever Limbloat says is okey dokey,he has a right to say it
Of course I have a right to respond as well
Ill admit,Bernard sometimes has a hard time getting his head out of Germantown/Graterford
But to use him to excuse the wild rantings of someone who is paid to talk,and talk alone is silly
Interestingly enough,something to consider
I drop a white boy in the middle of Germantown
And a black boy in the middle of Society Hill
Which 7 year old do you think is more likely to get fed and cared for?
(I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it)

Which one the middle of Germantown or the middle of Society Hill would it be safer for your wife to go on an evening stroll around 10:00 saturday night?I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it

West Virginia Population White 95.0%,Black 3.2%.Why did you leave Germantown and move to WV? I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it.

[Trainer Monkey]

Which one the middle of Germantown or the middle of Society Hill would it be safer for your wife to go on an evening stroll around 10:00 saturday night?I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it

West Virginia Population White 95.0%,Black 3.2%.Why did you leave Germantown and move to WV? I know you allready know the awnser,but I doubt you say it.

Yeah I know the awnser
Our jobs got downsized and we like mountains
It costs a fortune to live anywhere near Philly unless you want an unmaintained apartment
I miss Philly,but I couldnt afford to live there comfortably
I just dont make that kind of scratch
Not the awnser you were hoping for,but there it is.
When we used to hit the Zoo we routinely stopped at the Checkers on Broad Street,Ooooooooooooooooo smack to your point
Last time the wife visited her folks she trained at Fraziers,ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o bigger smack to your point

[USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS]

Yeah I know the awnser
Our jobs got downsized and we like mountains
It costs a fortune to live anywhere near Philly unless you want an unmaintained apartment
I miss Philly,but I couldnt afford to live there comfortably
I just dont make that kind of scratch
Not the awnser you were hoping for,but there it is.
When we used to hit the Zoo we routinely stopped at the Checkers on Broad Street,Ooooooooooooooooo smack to your point
Last time the wife visited her folks she trained at Fraziers,ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o bigger smack to your point

All this at 10:00 saturday night?

[Kirkland Laing]

...I think what Limbaugh and Savage and their ilk do is a lot different than what Jackson and Sharpton do.

Jackson and Sharpton "play the race card" they extort money from legitimate businesses....it's not NASCAR's fault that black people don't like that sport and very few want to participate in it....they aren't banned from doing it though, there have been plenty of black drivers but I guess not enough for Jesse Jackson who burned them for $150,000....and Tawana Brawley was just ridiculous....but Al Sharpton got his spotlight and hasn't ever gotten tired of calling racism on EVERYTHING except for rap music.....sure Sharpton and Jackson talk about it a little bit but if they can extort money and bully sponsors why can't they do that to the rap industry

The KKK isn't a legitimate organization TM don't be a fucking smart ass you know God damned well that isn't what I am talking about.

White politicians "play the race card" to get elected and hit businesses up for vast sums of money but this doesn't bother you at all. Why are you holding black politicians to a higher standard than white politicians ?

[El Kabong]

White politicians "play the race card" to get elected and hit businesses up for vast sums of money but this doesn't bother you at all. Why are you holding black politicians to a higher standard than white politicians ?

White politicians play the race card and it's dispicible...what happened to John McCain in SC was horrible, what happened to Harold Ford Jr. was deplorable.....and Hillary Clinton has played the race card already in this election. But that's in politics and not in the professional field...I don't know of anyone who does that basing it on the discrimination of white people...please feel free to enlighten me in this if I have overlooked someone.


I don't hold either black or white politicians to a higher standard...I doubt you know who Harold Ford Jr is....if he was Obama's VP I just might cast a vote for him.....if McCain wasn't going to be the Republican candidate but my vote isn't a matter of race but a matter of who I trust and who has AMERICA's best intrest in mind.


Any other conclusions about me that you wish to jump to?

[Trainer Monkey]

Ugggghhhhhhhh
The Playboy ads against Ford were despicable

[El Kabong]

Ugggghhhhhhhh
The Playboy ads against Ford were despicable

Ford is the MOTHERFUCKER! He's a great guy!


I also wished Colin Powell would run for President or even be considered as VP by McCain....Colin is the man!

[Trainer Monkey]

Ford is the MOTHERFUCKER! He's a great guy!


I also wished Colin Powell would run for President or even be considered as VP by McCain....Colin is the man!

The "Call me" ads are exactly the kind of thing that gets people turned off to the political process
Powell is sort of like McCain to me,way to much bending over backwards to the party
Right now out of the pack of four thats left Im leaning towards Obama
I like but he's still getting my vote by process of elimiation
Hillary and McCain are both party creatures now(which is sad,because they both used to have ideals)Huckabee is tunes,it leave Obama as the last man standing

[El Kabong]

The "Call me" ads are exactly the kind of thing that gets people turned off to the political process
Powell is sort of like McCain to me,way to much bending over backwards to the party
Right now out of the pack of four thats left Im leaning towards Obama
I like but he's still getting my vote by process of elimiation
Hillary and McCain are both party creatures now(which is sad,because they both used to have ideals)Huckabee is tunes,it leave Obama as the last man standing

McCain has so much support because he's NOT a strict party guy...he sides with them on certain issues but REALLY disagrees with them seriously on other issues, listen to Limbaugh, Hannity, and anyone else you can think of who is a "Conservative"


The Clintons are another thing all together...they are manipulative, conniving, vindictive, and self serving, much more so than any other political family....I will say this, I'd vote for Obama before I'd ever consider voting for a Clinton.