Leslie Lubaczewski/Lorrissa Rivas

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

All credit to Rivas's people,they asked for a rematch because of the contoversy over it.

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Is this fight available for viewing courtesy of Nokia 3gp yet Monkey?

Seriously bro your rantings today are worse than ever.

I just saw you speaking on boxrec forums claiming that your corner was just getting up onto the ring to grab their towel back, do you have any idea how amatuer this shit makes you sound?

Why not just be honest, she got beat, she was outclassed on the night by a younger, fitter, better trained fighter.

In future you'd be best not to tell us about any fights as you only embarrass yourself, not by losing, no shame in that, but with your delusional rantings both before and afterwards.

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I had to hire the corner at the last minute,I was told it was a good corner.Id never sent a fighter to Trinidad before,its just not my stomping grounds.
Things went wrong with the other 3 corners Id set up for her,so we had to hire locals,options had been reduced.
Welcome to the real world,I hope you enjoy your stay.
It isnt all Mayweather and his Uncle or Daddy babbysitting him in the for real end of boxing

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

All credit to Rivas's people,they asked for a rematch because of the contoversy over it.

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Is this fight available for viewing courtesy of Nokia 3gp yet Monkey?

Seriously bro your rantings today are worse than ever.

I just saw you speaking on boxrec forums claiming that your corner was just getting up onto the ring to grab their towel back, do you have any idea how amatuer this shit makes you sound?

Why not just be honest, she got beat, she was outclassed on the night by a younger, fitter, better trained fighter.

In future you'd be best not to tell us about any fights as you only embarrass yourself, not by losing, no shame in that, but with your delusional rantings both before and afterwards.

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Fuck that, this is enjoyable, this and the prediction contest are the only reasons I'm even still interested in boxing.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

All credit to Rivas's people,they asked for a rematch because of the contoversy over it.

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Is this fight available for viewing courtesy of Nokia 3gp yet Monkey?

Seriously bro your rantings today are worse than ever.

I just saw you speaking on boxrec forums claiming that your corner was just getting up onto the ring to grab their towel back, do you have any idea how amatuer this shit makes you sound?

Why not just be honest, she got beat, she was outclassed on the night by a younger, fitter, better trained fighter.

In future you'd be best not to tell us about any fights as you only embarrass yourself, not by losing, no shame in that, but with your delusional rantings both before and afterwards.

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Fuck that, this is enjoyable, this and the prediction contest are the only reasons I'm even still interested in boxing.

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I mean from his point of view Ouma, all he acheives is to get everyone laughing at him.

And Monkey I'm not talking about the corner being amatuer, I'm talking about YOU. They were presumably trying to get their towel back becuase they threw it into the ring as your girl was getting mauled. No shame in that and they were just trying to protect her.

Your completely bizarre stance of 'well she always bleeds but she can still fight on' is absolute nonsense.

She's 0-3 with 3 knockout losses coming into this fight, in other words she's an opponent. Lorissa was beating her up and winning so they stopped the fight as they do with ALL opponents in both mens and womans boxing all over the world.

When in the history of boxing has there been a prospect fighting a winless opponent just for experience, and they are winning, knocking down and wounding this hapless opponent and the ref had decided to ignore their corner throwing in the towel becuase he senses some kind of 'backs to the wall comeback'?


The fight was stopped to prevent your wife from getting hurt, it's not a fix, the corner didn't fail, nobody spiked the food.

It's just what happens when a prospect fights a no hoper, knocks them down, cuts them up and their corner wants the fight stopped. The ref stops the fight.

Delusional nutters don't care about people laughing at them. In their own mind they are always right even if the entire world says otherwise.

the local report says Leslie was gutsy but Rivas put on the most ferocious display of the night and "looked technically sound and that though much is not know of Lubaczewski the manner in which she was dismantled suggests Rivas can cut ice when pitched in against a higher calibre rival in the junior welterweight ranks."

so according to that Leslie was tough but just overmatched, nothing to be embarrassed by.

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Of course that could be biased, maybe the whole thing was rigged from the start, its a dirty buis and the corner, ref, promoter were all from Trinidad.

TM is crazy and these threads are fun but if the report is right and she was saved from serious punishment, has been knocked out four times in four fights, and is seemingly gutsy but limited then she's just gonna get KO'd more and its nothing to laugh about. Good luck to her though, if she wants to do it that's her thing obviously.

Yes.. In all seriousness it's good he can't work her corner because his attitude is the type that gets you seriously injured.

I'm sure he would like every fight to end Morrison-Mercer style.

This is actually a serious question, why doesn't he work her corner? Isn't that usually listed as a job responsibility?

Holmes CObb style.

I guess he hasn't got a license.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I guess he hasn't got a license.

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I think it's because his fighters can't hold a telephone with their gloves on between rounds, or use their laptop to read his emails

Actually following the links below I ran into Trainer Monkey's missus own account of her last loss. Suprisingly (considering hubby is such a loon) she talks about it in a very sensible and honest way, she got beat, the girl was much better, her corner were great, she was totally happy with the way everything went down she just wasn't good enough on the night etc.

A nice honest post, I wasn't good enough on the night but i tried my best so that's that kind of thing.

His wife actually seems like a nice down to earth woman, it's just Monkey who is unhinged.

I mean seriously, saying the corner stopped it early becuase they didn't know my wife is a bleeder is surely grounds for divorce? :-\

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Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

All credit to Rivas's people,they asked for a rematch because of the contoversy over it.

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Is this fight available for viewing courtesy of Nokia 3gp yet Monkey?

Seriously bro your rantings today are worse than ever.

I just saw you speaking on boxrec forums claiming that your corner was just getting up onto the ring to grab their towel back, do you have any idea how amatuer this shit makes you sound?

Why not just be honest, she got beat, she was outclassed on the night by a younger, fitter, better trained fighter.

In future you'd be best not to tell us about any fights as you only embarrass yourself, not by losing, no shame in that, but with your delusional rantings both before and afterwards.

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I had to hire the corner at the last minute,I was told it was a good corner.Id never sent a fighter to Trinidad before,its just not my stomping grounds.
Things went wrong with the other 3 corners Id set up for her,so we had to hire locals,options had been reduced.
Welcome to the real world,I hope you enjoy your stay.
It isnt all Mayweather and his Uncle or Daddy babbysitting him in the for real end of boxing

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I read this whole thing trying to keep quiet, but this here baffles me. Maybe it's YOU that is failing. It seems that every part of your fighters career that you have direct contact in is doomed. Perhaps, since it seems that your fighter is your wife (correct?), you should step away and allow her to follow her path with people that are more concerned with her welfare and success than their own egotistical glory stroking. That way, you will never have to accept any blame (which is what you seem to crave) and she doesn't have to try and succeed with your inferior training.

Perhaps you should just admit that you are out of your league and allow her some semblance of humility by stepping aside rather than standing in her way?

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Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

Now if you want the honest assesment of what happened,it was relatively even except for the knockdown,but Leslie is PO'ed at herself for not slipping well enough during the fight.Lorissa wasnt hurting her,but she was scoring.She was hurting Lorissa but not able to put her down.
If it had gone the full 4 I know the cards would have been skewed,but she was still in it to win it when her corner screwed up and got in to the ring mid-round.

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Dude, I know that you have to support Leslie, but you are seriously delusional, and have been that way from the onset of your first posts about my SISTER, Lorissa "The Cheetah" Rivas. You don't know anything about her tactics, her training, and you damned sure don't know anything about what The Cheetah is capable of.

If you had seen Lorissa's debut fight, where she fought Shelley "The Killer" Brazil and won that fight 51 seconds in the first round, you would know that Rivas is a surgeon. She trains with MALE CHAMPIONSHIP BOXERS. She puts her male sparring partners on the mat, and she has been that way ALL...HER...LIFE.

I know because I trained my sister in the martial arts when she was FIVE YEARS OLD, but when she got older, she chose her own path, as is the course of nature. Before the end of this year, she will hold a title, and that will be on the basis of merit, not because anyone gave it to her. I will give Leslie her due because she actually got in the ring with Lorissa, but if you think that if that fight had lasted any longer than it did, that Leslie would have done anything less than exposed herself to undue harm, then you must be out of your mind. Rivas had command of that card from 15 seconds of the first round, and dominated from that time on until she let loose with her well-known-deadly right hands. I knew before she arrived in Trinidad that her victory was going to come from the damage that her right hand is known to inflict, and in that fact, I was a prophet. I saw the fight on webcast and was speaking to the fight commentators the entire time. I don't know what you were doing, but you really need to get your story straight, because your prediction was not based in any kind of reality, you had no inkling of Leslie's opponent, and you know NOTHING of how the Cheetah was trained.

Next time, do your homework. Class dismissed. Seriously.

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Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl

Learn the score,before you talk about the score little man,or your ass is going to be 1-20 before you know it in the pro's
Again,those are the rules buddy boy,and if you dont like them,maybe crotcheing would better suit your tender sensibilities

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I tried not to respond to this, because this thread is not in any way about me. But I spose I can't. Now considering my no loss record beats all of your fighters winning records combined, I feel safe in assuming once again you are just spouting retarded shit and should be ignored.

But for the record on the pro deal, I guess it is just too hard for you to realize that some people would NEVER be so stupid as find themselves at 1-20 in the pros. Just sayin. The tomato can existance is not for everyone.