Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
If RJJ had the speed or power that he used to have I would totally agree, the lead right cross plus the leaping left hook/uppercut he has would be the end of Calzaghe's winning streak. But the way things are right now, I see Roy getting beat to the punch and taking lots of shots that he wouldn't normally take.
Roy is done, he couldn't KO Trinidad and that should have been a sign
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
Calzaghe wouldn't ko Trinidad either, IMO there are a lot of fighters who wouldn't have been able to KO that version of Trinidad. Also I don't think Roy would be beaten to the punch as much as Calzaghe would dictate the pace and not allow Roy to get anything off by bombaring him with punches. I think if Calzaghe fought at a slow pace Roy would beat the shit out of him, but thats not Calzaghe's style.
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
....Bernard Hopkins stopped Tito.
Winky Wright damn near stopped him, they might as well have stopped that fight because Tito got his ass flat handed to him.
Calzaghe would have beaten Trinidad worse than Jones did
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
I don't think Roy tried to stop Trinidad. Roy's content to win a points decision, any day. It's not the first time he's done so!
I think Joe looked fine last night - saying he looked old is a compliment to Hopkins. He makes most people look old.
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
Why The Fuck Is Joe C Wanting To Fight Grandpa Roy Jones. What Has Jones Done In The Last 5 Years To Deserve A Shot At The Title Or Jc, Nothing Bcos He Finshed, Washed Up. The Only Reason Jc Wants To Fight Him Now Is Bcos Hes Washed Up And Finished. Fight Pavlik, Jt, Wnky Or Anybody Who Isnt A Old Age Pensioner Or Peter Manfredo
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
...in the last 5 years Roy Jones Jr. has moved up from light heavyweight where he was one of the most dominant fighters ever to heavyweight to win a title there.
In the last 5 years Roy has done enough to warrent a shot with anyone....but in the last 3 he has really fallen off
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
I give Jones a real good chance against Calzaghe on what i saw in the Hopkins fight, one thing is certain Calzaghe won't knock him out with those punches he throws. At this early stage i go for Jones!
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
jones is like 40, and his success had alot to do with athleticism...
calzaghe would STILL probably lose to a 40 year old guy who relies so heavily on athletic ability, but im sure everyone will overlook that after the fight and claim that he landed more punches against jones then anyone or some bullshit
seriosly calzaghe is a fucking joke calling out jones at this age
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
I don't think Calzaghe is really calling Jones out at thise stage as much as RJJ is calling Calzaghe out and Joe just wants some huge paydays and people will pay to see this fight because RJJ will build it up like he's 100% back to normal and the best fighter ever and this fight vs Hopkins makes Calzaghe look more human.
It's all an illusion....#1 Nobody has an easy fight vs Hopkins #2 Roy is still afraid to get hit and #3 Roy's reflexes ain't what they used to be....it'll be a tough competitive fight but I think at this stage Joe takes it hands down
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
FIrst of all people are saying stuff that isn't that important.
1) Roy isn't as athletic as he used to be: He's made changed his style so that, his lose in reflexes isn't a factor anymore. Regardless he is still a way better athlete than Joe is
2) Roy doesn't have power anymore, he still hits harder than Joe.
3) Roy's hasn't been the same since being knocked out: ROy has come closer and closer to looking like the man who beat Tarver the first fight, sure that wasn't the best Roy ever, but thats good enough to have a chance against Calzaghe.
4) WHo else is there for Calzaghe to beat in order for him to get recognition? Except Dawson who will likely dominate the LHW in the years to come there is nobody worth mentioning in 5 years thats still fighting.
WHat I see as a factor is that
Roy can't move, and Calzaghe punches in bunches, but that being said Calzaghe also boxes so in those moments ROy will be the superior figher which makes it interesting, along with the fact Calzaghe has no defense and Roy throws more punches than Hopkins with the same kind of timing but more speed.
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
Kelly Pavlik is my pick, it would be a bigger and easier fight for Joe in my opinion
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
6 years ago, Jones beats Calzaghe. Now, Jones almost definately loses on points. But, since Joe beat BHOP, Roy might just try for a KO, unlikely I know, but if Roy was to beat Joe, he would have a great deal of redemption, and would be right back in the middle, IMO. Wishful thinking, I'm picking Roy by KO.
It seems like alot of people think Pavlik would be an easy fight for Joe, it won't be.
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
Dude, Pavlik is big and he hits hard BUT he's open to counters and his hands are slower than Joe's. I think Calzaghe being quick, being a good counter puncher, and being a southpaw would really screw with Pavlik who's only big test has been vs Jermain Taylor....sure he fought Edison Miranda but Miranda has proven to be a bigger headcase than a good fighter.
I think Joe's style of fighting would benefit from Pavlik's style of fighting but I can't see Pavlik benefitting from the way Joe fights....I think he could psyche out Pavlik and mess him up big time....Pavlik IMO is like a blend of Jeff Lacy and Mikkel Kessler (sure he's a better fighter and more effective but he's similar to both of them, with speed, power, and defense) and Joe handled them with ease
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
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Taeth
FIrst of all people are saying stuff that isn't that important.
1) Roy isn't as athletic as he used to be: He's made changed his style so that, his lose in reflexes isn't a factor anymore. Regardless he is still a way better athlete than Joe is
2) Roy doesn't have power anymore, he still hits harder than Joe.
3) Roy's hasn't been the same since being knocked out: ROy has come closer and closer to looking like the man who beat Tarver the first fight, sure that wasn't the best Roy ever, but thats good enough to have a chance against Calzaghe.
4) WHo else is there for Calzaghe to beat in order for him to get recognition? Except Dawson who will likely dominate the LHW in the years to come there is nobody worth mentioning in 5 years thats still fighting.
WHat I see as a factor is that
Roy can't move, and Calzaghe punches in bunches, but that being said Calzaghe also boxes so in those moments ROy will be the superior figher which makes it interesting, along with the fact Calzaghe has no defense and Roy throws more punches than Hopkins with the same kind of timing but more speed.
You really hate joe.
You will hate joe even after he beats jones and beats pavlik. It must really annoy you that this is gonna happen.
So by your summation jones will beat calzaghe...you write that hes more powerful than joe, faster and at times a superior fighter...once again youll be proven wrong.
I feel sorry for your opinion, the hatred shines through so much in your posts, its anything to make out calzaghe isnt the real deal. So much hate for joe:rolleyes:
Re: Right Then Calzaghe Vs Jones Looks Likely To Be Next Who Win??
I just think Pavlik is better than Lacy and Kessler, I'm not saying Joe couldn't beat him, it would just be tougher. After almost getting KOd by Taylor, I think Pavlik is better mentally than Lacy or Kessler. He perservered, and kod Jermain. I can't see him getting punked by Joe. And IMO, if Pavlik was losing, he would do more, or go for broke, where those other guys didn't.