Why do people hate Amir Khan so much? (Ring article attached)

I got flamed for this last time but race and religion come into it somewhere.

Not saying anybody on the board dislikes him because of this - i would presume if you're on this board you have enough boxing reasons to dislike someone.

The reason i bring race and religion into it is because thats invariably the first thing that a great deal of people in my area seem mention when a Khan fight is being screened at a venue in my area. It's actually quite sickening. Maybe these people don't know anything about him so they look at the most obvious thing. Maybe Leeds is a very racist area - although i don't see why it would be any worse than anywhere else.

Anyway hopefully that's just a small minority. It's not something i particularly want to debate again as a lot will find it ridiculous, but it's the truth of what i've experienced when there has been a Khan fight shown in town. It's a very different atmosphere from a Hatton or a Clazaghe fight.

I don't like Khan and I've not given Calzaghe an easy time either. It's not because I hate on the darker skin tones or the Welsh pretending to be Italian.:cool:

But let's deal with the race issue since it seems to be what a number of people are focused on and keep bringing up.

Anyone?

I've honestly never heard anyone say they dislike Khan because of his Pakistani roots.

Maybe things are different in London?

Or maybe i don't know any racists.

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Originally Posted by JoeyUK

Quite frankly all the Khan hate confuses me. I really don't see how people call him cocky... I don't know about off-camera, but on camera he's never showed a sign of cockyness to me and I've seen quite a few Khan interviews.

Saying he is fighting powderpuff fighters is also a pretty stupid reason. He is 22, he's still at an early age at his career... hell, Joe Calzaghe fought shitty opponents for the better part of 10 years, I don't see anyone seeing him want to get KTFO? In fact the reality is almost every fighters first 20 or so fights will be a steady building process, gradually increasing the opposition, which in truth he has...

His last 6 fights have been against a..

• A previous world title challenger (correct me if i'm wrong) - Graham Earl
• A ex world champion (again, correct me if i'm wrong) - Gairy St.Clair
• A top 10 lightweight in the WBA rankings - Martin Kristjansen
• A ex WBU champion with decent power, past his best a bit maybe... - Michael Gomez
• A dangerous columbian banger with a almost perfect KO percentage, this one didn't turn out so well of course.. - Breidis Prescott
• And of course Oisin Fagan.... not much to say about him.

Which when you look at it isnt THAT bad. Every boxers first 20 or so fights will be padded slightly, why can't people seem to realise that?

When it all comes down to it I think one thing above all fuels the hate for him, especially in England - his race. Which I think is pretty sad, the boy is british either way. I couldn't care if he was knocked out 10 times in a row, if the boy was british I would be behind him 100% of the way. I'm backing him to beat Barrera and I hope he does, I think it's pretty low when people are running around saying they hope Barrera knocks him out brutally... especially if their british.

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It doesn't matter to me whether a fighter is british or martian for that matter. If I like a guy I like him, if not I don't. I've said before it's Warren I hate not Khan but on the same note Khan still needs to earn his respect and not just expect it.

And as for padded slightly, compare Khans first 20 with Oscars. I don't think I need to say anymore.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Cuz he's a cocky, arrogant young man who can't back up his talk. Simple as.

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Takes one to no one ;D.

on a serious note, I don't dislike him at all, I think he comes across alright - not really that cocky. Okay he said that 4 round thing about PBF and the 2% body fat claim, but he never said those things as a means to disrespect anyone. The first quote was said when he was still a teenager, a young man who gets every single thing he says scrutinised and these are the two worst things people can find he says. It's not as if he's badmouthing prospective opponents or anything, saying Murray is an arsehole and I don't want to give him a payday or anything like that.

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Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

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Originally Posted by JoeyUK

Quite frankly all the Khan hate confuses me. I really don't see how people call him cocky... I don't know about off-camera, but on camera he's never showed a sign of cockyness to me and I've seen quite a few Khan interviews.

Saying he is fighting powderpuff fighters is also a pretty stupid reason. He is 22, he's still at an early age at his career... hell, Joe Calzaghe fought shitty opponents for the better part of 10 years, I don't see anyone seeing him want to get KTFO? In fact the reality is almost every fighters first 20 or so fights will be a steady building process, gradually increasing the opposition, which in truth he has...

His last 6 fights have been against a..

• A previous world title challenger (correct me if i'm wrong) - Graham Earl
• A ex world champion (again, correct me if i'm wrong) - Gairy St.Clair
• A top 10 lightweight in the WBA rankings - Martin Kristjansen
• A ex WBU champion with decent power, past his best a bit maybe... - Michael Gomez
• A dangerous columbian banger with a almost perfect KO percentage, this one didn't turn out so well of course.. - Breidis Prescott
• And of course Oisin Fagan.... not much to say about him.

Which when you look at it isnt THAT bad. Every boxers first 20 or so fights will be padded slightly, why can't people seem to realise that?

When it all comes down to it I think one thing above all fuels the hate for him, especially in England - his race. Which I think is pretty sad, the boy is british either way. I couldn't care if he was knocked out 10 times in a row, if the boy was british I would be behind him 100% of the way. I'm backing him to beat Barrera and I hope he does, I think it's pretty low when people are running around saying they hope Barrera knocks him out brutally... especially if their british.

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It doesn't matter to me whether a fighter is british or martian for that matter. If I like a guy I like him, if not I don't. I've said before it's Warren I hate not Khan but on the same note Khan still needs to earn his respect and not just expect it.

And as for padded slightly, compare Khans first 20 with Oscars. I don't think I need to say anymore.

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Very very few fighters in history will have first 20 fights comparable in degree to Oscar.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I don't like Khan and I've not given Calzaghe an easy time either. It's not because I hate on the darker skin tones or the Welsh pretending to be Italian.:cool:

But let's deal with the race issue since it seems to be what a number of people are focused on and keep bringing up.

Anyone?

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I don't think we can deal with it since i doubt anybody on here dislikes him because of this.

I think we can accept that we are in a day where tabloid newspapers like to run stories about how 'our country' is no longer 'our country' and idiots tend to believe it.

It's obviously a sensitive issue to talk about and i only brought it up because what i experienced when i watched the fight in town, wasn't pleasant.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I've honestly never heard anyone say they dislike Khan because of his Pakistani roots.

Maybe things are different in London?

Or maybe i don't know any racists.

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I went to a Khan fight to offer some local support, not to Khan. They segregated the fans as they came in, an annoucement came over the speaker system about no racist chants etc not being tolerated and there was a big police pressence.

Annoyed the hell out of me. Especially when a group of lads, all asian, all sporting Khan tracksuits:rolleyes: were sat in the opposing area. As the evening went on them were surrounded by police to protect them. They sat about grinning over the shoulders of the police as a few people were escourted out. The whole event had an air of wtf :confused: about it.

Nothing against them or Khan but, by forcing the fans to segregate and making an issue about Khans colour it draws attention to something that wasn't a problem until other people made it so. I've never been segregated like that in my life.

I don't like Warren and his overprotection of fighters. It harms the fighter and the quality of the sport in general and I don't like bangwaggons, so called fans who just sign up to a sole fighter based on whatever link they think they have with them.

Those who support Khan because of his ethnicity annoy me just as much as those who don't support him because of his ethnicity.

Which is pretty much the feeling I have toward pacfans in general.;D:cool: Hell at least they have a fighter that's done something to shout about.

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I don't like Khan and I've not given Calzaghe an easy time either. It's not because I hate on the darker skin tones or the Welsh pretending to be Italian.:cool:

But let's deal with the race issue since it seems to be what a number of people are focused on and keep bringing up.

Anyone?

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I don't think we can deal with it since i doubt anybody on here dislikes him because of this.

I think we can accept that we are in a day where tabloid newspapers like to run stories about how 'our country' is no longer 'our country' and idiots tend to believe it.

It's obviously a sensitive issue to talk about and i only brought it up because what i experienced when i watched the fight in town, wasn't pleasant.

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no problem I do understand your concern I don't think most true fans think that way but you'll always get nutters.

I really like Amir Khan, In my eyes hes a clean living perfect rolemodel for any kids out there, boxing fans or not, he sometimes goes out round my local town, my wife works with one of his mates and he just seems an all round top bloke and true professional.

And lets not forget hes actually a very talented boxer.

but then others see other things, hes a fraud, hes on a protected free ride to the top, His fights are on PPV (my gripe), hes living with his head in the clouds.

And the worst bit for me is this (and dont take offence) hes a paki. Simple as that, its racist in the year 2009 but theres still plenty of them out there. And they hated Naseem Hamed and compare the 2, which to me shows its nothing more than racism as other than the colour of their skin they are nothing alike, and where were all these racists when he was winning the UK a silver medal at the olympics?

Personally i blame the media for hyping him up, they always do with medal winners, Frank Warren for protecting him and his family for forcing Warren to sign him up to PPV with their massive money demands.

I couldn't care less about Khan to be honest. I hope Barrera beats the living crap out of him though because I'm a Barrera fan. But otherwise I haven't paid much interest in Khan. Doesn't compute with me really.

One of the main reasons that people in Britain dont like Khan is because they dont like to see a sucssesfull ,rich Asian bloke.

I know some on here have other reason such as to much media hype/money to soon but thats not exactly his fault is it.

He just fights who gets put in front of him by Warren.


Some dont like him becuse he is calling out the best fighighters in the world at the same time they say he is not fighting good enough opponents.

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I've honestly never heard anyone say they dislike Khan because of his Pakistani roots.

Maybe things are different in London?

Or maybe i don't know any racists.

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I went to a Khan fight to offer some local support, not to Khan. They segregated the fans as they came in, an annoucement came over the speaker system about no racist chants etc not being tolerated and there was a big police pressence.

Annoyed the hell out of me. Especially when a group of lads, all asian, all sporting Khan tracksuits:rolleyes: were sat in the opposing area. As the evening went on them were surrounded by police to protect them. They sat about grinning over the shoulders of the police as a few people were escourted out. The whole event had an air of wtf :confused: about it.

Nothing against them or Khan but, by forcing the fans to segregate and making an issue about Khans colour it draws attention to something that wasn't a problem until other people made it so. I've never been segregated like that in my life.

I don't like Warren and his overprotection of fighters. It harms the fighter and the quality of the sport in general and I don't like bangwaggons, so called fans who just sign up to a sole fighter based on whatever link they think they have with them.

Those who support Khan because of his ethnicity annoy me just as much as those who don't support him because of his ethnicity.

Which is pretty much the feeling I have toward pacfans in general.;D:cool: Hell at least they have a fighter that's done something to shout about.

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Khan tracksuits? ;D How old were they 11/12?

Why were the guys getting escorted out?

I can understand the support because of his ethnicity. Just like I understand why people see that as hypocritical/wrong.

I knew a few Pakistani muslims that would make a big deal about supporting Naz. Would give it the "he is one of us" line. Always found that a bit weird :-\

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I've honestly never heard anyone say they dislike Khan because of his Pakistani roots.

Maybe things are different in London?

Or maybe i don't know any racists.

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I went to a Khan fight to offer some local support, not to Khan. They segregated the fans as they came in, an announcement came over the speaker system about no racist chants etc not being tolerated and there was a big police presence.

Annoyed the hell out of me. Especially when a group of lads, all Asian, all sporting Khan tracksuits:rolleyes: were sat in the opposing area. As the evening went on them were surrounded by police to protect them. They sat about grinning over the shoulders of the police as a few people were escorted out. The whole event had an air of wtf :confused: about it.

Nothing against them or Khan but, by forcing the fans to segregate and making an issue about Khans colour it draws attention to something that wasn't a problem until other people made it so. I've never been segregated like that in my life.

I don't like Warren and his over-protection of fighters. It harms the fighter and the quality of the sport in general and I don't like bandwagons, so called fans who just sign up to a sole fighter based on whatever link they think they have with them.

Those who support Khan because of his ethnicity annoy me just as much as those who don't support him because of his ethnicity.

Which is pretty much the feeling I have toward pacfans in general.;D:cool: Hell at least they have a fighter that's done something to shout about.

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Just about sums it up for me and I couldn't give a phuck if a fighter is pink with green spots, if he can back up his mouth in the ring he gets my support if he Kharnt he don't.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I've honestly never heard anyone say they dislike Khan because of his Pakistani roots.

Maybe things are different in London?

Or maybe i don't know any racists.

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I went to a Khan fight to offer some local support, not to Khan. They segregated the fans as they came in, an annoucement came over the speaker system about no racist chants etc not being tolerated and there was a big police pressence.

Annoyed the hell out of me. Especially when a group of lads, all asian, all sporting Khan tracksuits:rolleyes: were sat in the opposing area. As the evening went on them were surrounded by police to protect them. They sat about grinning over the shoulders of the police as a few people were escourted out. The whole event had an air of wtf :confused: about it.

Nothing against them or Khan but, by forcing the fans to segregate and making an issue about Khans colour it draws attention to something that wasn't a problem until other people made it so. I've never been segregated like that in my life.

I don't like Warren and his overprotection of fighters. It harms the fighter and the quality of the sport in general and I don't like bangwaggons, so called fans who just sign up to a sole fighter based on whatever link they think they have with them.

Those who support Khan because of his ethnicity annoy me just as much as those who don't support him because of his ethnicity.

Which is pretty much the feeling I have toward pacfans in general.;D:cool: Hell at least they have a fighter that's done something to shout about.

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Khan tracksuits? ;D How old were they 11/12?

Why were the guys getting escorted out?

I can understand the support because of his ethnicity. Just like I understand why people see that as hypocritical/wrong.

I knew a few Pakistani muslims that would make a big deal about supporting Naz. Would give it the "he is one of us" line. Always found that a bit weird :-\

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they were about 18-22ish ;D
Everyone was ignoring them and watching the fight till someone took the decision to place them in police protection. It provoked a tense situation and made it worse. People started lipping them and the porkers.

Thing is Fenster we'd get called racist if we only supported white guys.:-\