Disgusted how can the BBBC clear this Ref when he made another joke of a fight with Rogan. There really needs to be a clean out of these refs that are clearly not doing a fair job.:mad:
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Disgusted how can the BBBC clear this Ref when he made another joke of a fight with Rogan. There really needs to be a clean out of these refs that are clearly not doing a fair job.:mad:
To be honest even if Barrera was granted a rematch why would Kahn take it??
This was for the number 1 spot at 135 for the WBO, Kahn is fighting for the WBA Strap at 140 in a few weeks?? Don King does come across a bit simple at times, I think Barrera should retire to be honest great fighter great career.
Jones had already gotten KTFO against Tarver and was given a rematch, same goes for Jermain Taylor against Pavlik, and a bunch of other examples, point is, at least in the Barrera/Khan fight, there was controversy due to the cut, and the way the ref and the doctors handled the situationQuote:
Originally Posted by mofo2
You call a headbutt total domination ? Bassically all a fighter has to do is headbutt the other guy until their cranium is exposed and cant see, still fail to hurt them even though they are in no position to fight and then wait until the 5 round mark so they can claim an underserved dodgy win by screwing the system? Wow great win for Amir. Him and Warren are a great teamQuote:
Originally Posted by TaethKhan didn't clearly beat Barrera? Sorry what fight were you watching? He absolutley dominated Barrera from pillar to post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesKhan's win against an old Barrera was hardly impressive, so he should want the rematch, especially when Barrera did nothing to imply that he could actually put up with Khan's speed and size advantage, the point is, Khan didn't clearly beat a guy who had never fought above 130 lbs and was clearly past his bestQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
The fact that they allowed it to go 5 just to give Amir a win and then deny Barrera a return tells us all we need to know. If Barrera nutted Khan in Mexico and got given a win by a home ref I can imagine the outrage but its fine cuz its Fwank.
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Originally Posted by milesBollocks would he have been stopped without the cut. Khan carries no power and flurries like a pansy. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I love MAB with a passion and dislike khan but even i realise cut or no cut marco would of been stopped eventually :mad::mad::mad:
Barrera would have knocked Khan out and would have been getting to him a lot earlier than he did were it not for that axe wound messing up his vision. It was a fluke win and the fact that Khan doesn't want a rematch speaks volumes about their confidence in doing it again.
Khan is a phony and a fake and will get shown up sooner rather than later. Meanwhile I hope Barrera comes back soon and gets in line for a shot at 135 before retiring.
Exactly! Well said Miles.
People that think Khan would have stopped Barrera without the cut are talking s**t. Pac and Marquez couldnt even floor him in his two big fights before that. If Barrera had headbutted Khan and Amir couldnt see would we have seen a different fight ? Ofcourse but Khan couldnt even hurt a blinded Marco whereas if Khan couldnt see Barrera would have put him to sleep.
Travesty and the BBBC who have upheld this decision have proven themselves to be just as corrupt. The only thing that would make me feel better now would be too see Amir get badly injured vs Kotelnik. I hope he gets cut and lets see how they negotiate a win for him somehow.
You naughty, naughty man! :p;DQuote:
Originally Posted by AndreAn alternate way into Missys pants?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesBollocks would he have been stopped without the cut. Khan carries no power and flurries like a pansy. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Barrera would have knocked Khan out and would have been getting to him a lot earlier than he did were it not for that axe wound messing up his vision. It was a fluke win and the fact that Khan doesn't want a rematch speaks volumes about their confidence in doing it again.
Khan is a phony and a fake and will get shown up sooner rather than later. Meanwhile I hope Barrera comes back soon and gets in line for a shot at 135 before retiring.
Khan got very, very lucky. As simple as that. I don't agree with the assertion I have been hearing that Barrera is washed up either. He is obviously past his best but the Khan fight indicates little to me as to where Barrera might be at because the fight was all but null from the second minute. I know some are saying to retire but I see no harm in at least having another fight to see where he is at. Obviously it can't be against Khan as he is taking his well deserved crack at a 140 belt...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEQuote:
Originally Posted by milesBollocks would he have been stopped without the cut. Khan carries no power and flurries like a pansy. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Barrera would have knocked Khan out and would have been getting to him a lot earlier than he did were it not for that axe wound messing up his vision. It was a fluke win and the fact that Khan doesn't want a rematch speaks volumes about their confidence in doing it again.
Khan is a phony and a fake and will get shown up sooner rather than later. Meanwhile I hope Barrera comes back soon and gets in line for a shot at 135 before retiring.
Exactly! Well said Miles.
People that think Khan would have stopped Barrera without the cut are talking s**t. Pac and Marquez couldnt even floor him in his two big fights before that. If Barrera had headbutted Khan and Amir couldnt see would we have seen a different fight ? Ofcourse but Khan couldnt even hurt a blinded Marco whereas if Khan couldnt see Barrera would have put him to sleep.
Travesty and the BBBC who have upheld this decision have proven themselves to be just as corrupt. The only thing that would make me feel better now would be too see Amir get badly injured vs Kotelnik. I hope he gets cut and lets see how they negotiate a win for him somehow.
It was a shocking fight and one that should make all foreign fighters very wary before making any deal with Warren and Co. again. With officiating like that you stand little chance in the wake of any accident and they will play it against you.
I too hope Kotelnik manages to beat the living daylights out of Khan. That would be at least some compensation for the Barrera fight. :mad:
Me tooQuote:
Originally Posted by milesKhan got very, very lucky. As simple as that. I don't agree with the assertion I have been hearing that Barrera is washed up either. He is obviously past his best but the Khan fight indicates little to me as to where Barrera might be at because the fight was all but null from the second minute. I know some are saying to retire but I see no harm in at least having another fight to see where he is at. Obviously it can't be against Khan as he is taking his well deserved crack at a 140 belt...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
Exactly! Well said Miles.
People that think Khan would have stopped Barrera without the cut are talking s**t. Pac and Marquez couldnt even floor him in his two big fights before that. If Barrera had headbutted Khan and Amir couldnt see would we have seen a different fight ? Ofcourse but Khan couldnt even hurt a blinded Marco whereas if Khan couldnt see Barrera would have put him to sleep.
Travesty and the BBBC who have upheld this decision have proven themselves to be just as corrupt. The only thing that would make me feel better now would be too see Amir get badly injured vs Kotelnik. I hope he gets cut and lets see how they negotiate a win for him somehow.
It was a shocking fight and one that should make all foreign fighters very wary before making any deal with Warren and Co. again. With officiating like that you stand little chance in the wake of any accident and they will play it against you.
I too hope Kotelnik manages to beat the living daylights out of Khan. That would be at least some compensation for the Barrera fight. :mad:
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Originally Posted by milesBollocks would he have been stopped without the cut. Khan carries no power and flurries like a pansy. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I love MAB with a passion and dislike khan but even i realise cut or no cut marco would of been stopped eventually :mad::mad::mad:
Barrera would have knocked Khan out and would have been getting to him a lot earlier than he did were it not for that axe wound messing up his vision. It was a fluke win and the fact that Khan doesn't want a rematch speaks volumes about their confidence in doing it again.
Khan is a phony and a fake and will get shown up sooner rather than later. Meanwhile I hope Barrera comes back soon and gets in line for a shot at 135 before retiring.
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All fair points..unless you look at it that the doctors gave him every chance to take out Khan before they stepped in to halt proceedings as did the ref!! But he could'nt because he had nothing!Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesJones had already gotten KTFO against Tarver and was given a rematch, same goes for Jermain Taylor against Pavlik, and a bunch of other examples, point is, at least in the Barrera/Khan fight, there was controversy due to the cut, and the way the ref and the doctors handled the situationQuote:
Originally Posted by mofo2
When its all said and done Khan could'nt have lived with MAB 4/5 years ago but now he's a shell of his former self...So What Purpose does it serve anyone to have a rematch other than to appease MAB's Ego ,because AMIR WILL MURDER HIM!! He's to fast and strong for an ageing Legend...Period!
Just hangem up MAB...you're done!
I agree... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ono
Can any of the Khan fans honestly say that if it was Amir who got headbutted in round 1 and was bleeding like that , then the fight would have been allowed to go on to round 5 just so they could get a winner?
Ofcourse not. Barrera was therefore unfairly treated and deserves a return regardless whether or npt people wana see it. How they can assume than Khan would have stoppe dhim anayway based on what they say I cant undertand because Barrera didnt have the luxury of vision yet Khan still couldnt hurt him. Khan was the only one hurt in that fight. DONT FALL FOR THE KHAN HYPE. He could never beat Barrera
Well even before the headbutt we were seeing signs that khan was too fast for him.. I know it was a short time but it was enough. Maybe MAB would of adapted over time... who knows. We can't change what's happened, and we can't say MAB would of won had he not been cut, anyone who says otherwise are clearly fan boys and are a bit bitter over their hero being beat by a supposedly fake fighter. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Why does Khan have to give him a rematch when he's getting ready to make a world title shot? Maybe after he beats Kotelnik he can consider it, if he doesn't have to fight a mandatory... but IMO any mid to top level figtht at 140 would be worth more to Khan than a second win over MAB, because thet's face it... if he beat MAB again, no cuts involved, he still wouldn't recieve credit.
agree with you on whats bolded, as for Khan being a proven fighter, well honestly in my eyes he hasn't done that yet, don't agree with the any other top 140 lbr be worth more to Khan over MAB cause honestly i say any REAL top 10 jr welter beats KhanQuote:
Originally Posted by JoeyUKWell even before the headbutt we were seeing signs that khan was too fast for him.. I know it was a short time but it was enough. Maybe MAB would of adapted over time... who knows. We can't change what's happened, and we can't say MAB would of won had he not been cut, anyone who says otherwise are clearly fan boys and are a bit bitter over their hero being beat by a supposedly fake fighter. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Why does Khan have to give him a rematch when he's getting ready to make a world title shot? Maybe after he beats Kotelnik he can consider it, if he doesn't have to fight a mandatory... but IMO any mid to top level figtht at 140 would be worth more to Khan than a second win over MAB, because thet's face it... if he beat MAB again, no cuts involved, he still wouldn't recieve credit.
IMO Holt, Torres, Ortiz, and even Hatton, all stop Khan and pretty early
It's sad really. The number of people that have bought into this Khan hype tripe. It was an extremely inconclusive fight because the whole event was tarnished by one of the worst injuries in recent memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
It was not a meaningful result for Khan, it was a manufactured result born of very fortunate circumstances. He knows to high heaven he is damn lucky to have that scalp on his paltry resume.
The pictures on this thread are mildly amusing. Thinking Barrera is not shot and that Khan is a fraud waiting to be shown up is nothing all that outlandish though. :-\