The Mayweathers

Roger could fight,he just had a chin with the predictability of a jack in the box...still don't know how he made it 12 rounds with a streaking Tszyu.Could be caught ugly in the blink of an eye....Pineda,Pendleton,Lockridge,Lovato all one punch KO losses and Brazier all but had him Ko'd.He had one of the better straight right hands in his weight range when he was hot,and could starch or stun many,including Chavez for a moment......Jeff was somewhat a passive boring cutie who never found the next step up.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Yes, he did, he was the lineal Super-Featherweight champion in the 80s.

Some might consider his win over Rene Arredondo worthy of also making him lineal champ at Light-Welter, following on from Arredondo's fights with Hamada, but personally I wouldn't say there was a lineal champion till JCC beat Mayweather as they were IMO the 2 best guys in the division at that time.

Even then you could even make an argument that it was the Taylor-Chavez fight that was the 'real' lineal championship fight.

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Roger is an accomplish fighter then, but how great of a trainer is he?

About the Lineal LWW Championship, I go with Taylor Chavez.

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I've already answered that earlier, he's good, not great. My problem was you saying he wasn't much of a fighter, which just wasn't the case for anyone who's seen him.

Obviously as you haven't seen him fight you will go with the only one you've seen, but Mayweather-Chavez was the real lineal fight, the 2 best guys going at it. Although more knowledgable posters than myself have said it should have been the Arredondo-Hamada second fight, & the lineage goes from there.

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I have seen a few of his fight, and in relation to my first statement about him I admit I was comparing the other mayweathers to floyd jr. Roger of all the other mayweather besides floyd jr, is an accomplish fighter but is far from great compare to floyd jr.

I forget sometimes it can be very sensitive around here, i should of worded my sentence better.

Back to the topic,...right you did say the Mayweathers are good trainers but not great.