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How many world champions have they produce and how long have they been active trainers?

We all know they weren't that good of a fighter themselves, but are they riding the glory of Floyd jr? They have a great fighter in Floyd Jr, how much credit do they actually deserve? I haven't seen any footage of any elder Mayweather telling floyd jr how to fight. Seem like Floyd trains himself.

Sr had Oscar for a while, and he has Guzman but how much credit does he actually have?

Do we lack great trainers today, is that one of the reason why these two Mayweather trainers are getting so much credit?
Erm... Roger Mayweather was a two weight world champ. He deserves credit for a good solid career.

As trainers, they are very good, more evidenced by their work with weaker fighters like Jeff with Sultan Ibragimov, or Floyd Sr with Steve Forbes. What Floyd Sr did with Oscar & Guzman as well was impressive.

However, IMO none of them are on the same level as Freddie Roach or Nacho Beristain right now.
Did Roger hold any Lineal Titles?

I agree Roach and Beristain are better trainers, but the Mayweather get considerred better by some its crazy.
Yes, he did, he was the lineal Super-Featherweight champion in the 80s.

Some might consider his win over Rene Arredondo worthy of also making him lineal champ at Light-Welter, following on from Arredondo's fights with Hamada, but personally I wouldn't say there was a lineal champion till JCC beat Mayweather as they were IMO the 2 best guys in the division at that time.

Even then you could even make an argument that it was the Taylor-Chavez fight that was the 'real' lineal championship fight.