Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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a shot Vargas with a bad back
Ten pounds above his actual weight :rolleyes:
Why's Diaz in strike force and not the ufc ? How many losses does Diaz have? How much has Mayorga earnt compared to Diaz?
Ha ha, Mayorga wins;D
Diaz was dismissed from the UFC, not due to poor performances, but due to poor behaviour. Dana White has since confessed to being a fan of Diaz and would like him to re enter the UFC at some point.
He has 7 losses, however I would argue that W/L records of boxers and martial artists are not comparable.
I would also like to forward my opinion that Mayorga's earning have been enhanced because of his controversy and rash statements rather than any skill.
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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a shot Vargas with a bad back
Ten pounds above his actual weight :rolleyes:
Why's Diaz in strike force and not the ufc ? How many losses does Diaz have? How much has Mayorga earnt compared to Diaz?
Ha ha, Mayorga wins;D
Diaz was dismissed from the UFC, not due to poor performances, but due to poor behaviour. Dana White has since confessed to being a fan of Diaz and would like him to re enter the UFC at some point.
He has 7 losses, however I would argue that W/L records of boxers and martial artists are not comparable.
I would also like to forward my opinion that Mayorga's earning have been enhanced because of his controversy and rash statements rather than any skill.
Yeah, Mayorgas earning millions while Diaz is scraping the barrel making a pittance and trying to call Mayorgas name out to try and make him some of that. At least Mayorga couldn't make him any more ugly!;D
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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ross
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Trueno
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ElTerribleMorales
a shot Vargas with a bad back
Ten pounds above his actual weight :rolleyes:
Why's Diaz in strike force and not the ufc ? How many losses does Diaz have? How much has Mayorga earnt compared to Diaz?
Ha ha, Mayorga wins;D
#1 Boxing pays more than MMA, so of course Mayorga has earnt more.
#2 Just this week Dana White said he'd have Diaz back in the UFC in an instant Diaz just signed a new deal with Strikeforce. Your argument that all the best are in UFC isn't true, as Fedor fights for Strikeforce.
#3 In boxing, you're allowed to pad your record early. In MMA, not as much. Randy Couture has a 16-10 record and is considered an ATG and has fought the best in the sport.
#4 How many losses has Diaz had? 7 - exactly the same as Mayorga
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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Yeah, Mayorgas earning millions while Diaz is scraping the barrel making a pittance and trying to call Mayorgas name out to try and make him some of that. At least Mayorga couldn't make him any more ugly!;D
Diaz is doing well. Nick is making plenty of money.
Mayorga is a poor fighter, for any era or any weight
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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#1 Boxing pays more than MMA, so of course Mayorga has earnt more.
#2 Just this week Dana White said he'd have Diaz back in the UFC in an instant Diaz just signed a new deal with Strikeforce. Your argument that all the best are in UFC isn't true, as Fedor fights for Strikeforce.
#3 In boxing, you're allowed to pad your record early. In MMA, not as much. Randy Couture has a 16-10 record and is considered an ATG and has fought the best in the sport.
#4 How many losses has Diaz had? 7 - exactly the same as Mayorga
Just a little addition to #4, Diaz has actually beaten a number of the good fighter's he has fought;D
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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#4 How many losses has Diaz had? 7 - exactly the same as Mayorga
Yeah.....hardly against the calibre of Trinidad, Oscar and Mosley though eh? Fighters bound for the hall of fame.
Regardless, Mayorga has a better winning percentage;D
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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#4 How many losses has Diaz had? 7 - exactly the same as Mayorga
Yeah.....hardly against the calibre of Trinidad, Oscar and Mosley though eh? Fighters bound for the hall of fame.
Regardless, Mayorga has a better winning percentage;D
I'm guessing Shamrock will get into the HoF.
Oh and Diaz beat him ;)
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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#4 How many losses has Diaz had? 7 - exactly the same as Mayorga
Yeah.....hardly against the calibre of Trinidad, Oscar and Mosley though eh? Fighters bound for the hall of fame.
Regardless, Mayorga has a better winning percentage;D
I'm guessing Shamrock will get into the HoF.
Oh and Diaz beat him ;)
Is that it?
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
*Why couldn't he do well? He's in great shape..runs marathons, he's long,,, but does he have power?...no. He also cuts and swells easily..a bad combo in boxing. He'll win some and lose some, but against Mayo..he'll lose everyday.
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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Is that it?
I could go on all evening.
It is both irrational and unfair to compare records of athletes in different sports.
One may as well compare the performances of an Olympic swimmer and a cyclist.
Boxing and Mixed Martial Arts are completely different sports that share a few common factors. the past number of years has proven there is room for both sports and it is my opinion that the "threat" of mixed martial arts has invigorated boxing since a red hot 2007.
Nick Diaz is not among my favourite athletes. I have had my issues with him in the past, but I can never question his ability. Mayorga is a fighter that I never warmed to and who I have no admiration for in terms of technical ability. Should they indeed meet in a boxing ring of course I would give Mayorga a huge advantage, but what does it say for Diaz that with a pro boxinbg record of 1-0 is in a position to challenge Mayorga to a fight?
Furthermore let uslook into this from another perspective. What is there to gain for both fighters. For Diaz there is obviously a considerable pay day, media exposure and considerable kudos. For Mayorga there is only financial gain.
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
You can't compare the two different disciplines but you can say that Mayorga has had a more successful boxing career than Diaz has had MMA career. Mayorga has wins over p4p top ten fighters and has the better win percetntGe in his own sport.
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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You can't compare the two different disciplines but you can say that Mayorga has had a more successful boxing career than Diaz has had MMA career. Mayorga has wins over p4p top ten fighters and has the better win percetntGe in his own sport.
Which top ten fighters?
Shane Mosley beat him.
Oscar DLH beat him.
Felix Trinidad beat him.
Corey Spinks beat him.
The only decent guy he beat was Forrest.
As I said the win percentage is irrelevant as the two sports have very different standards. Randy Couture is ATG at 16-10, very different sports.
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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You can't compare the two different disciplines but you can say that Mayorga has had a more successful boxing career than Diaz has had MMA career. Mayorga has wins over p4p top ten fighters and has the better win percetntGe in his own sport.
Mayorga has lost to every major fighter he has fought bar Forrest? I'm not convinced that his career is more successful. Financially...yes, but the more successful? I'm unsure of that.
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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You can't compare the two different disciplines but you can say that Mayorga has had a more successful boxing career than Diaz has had MMA career. Mayorga has wins over p4p top ten fighters and has the better win percetntGe in his own sport.
Mayorga has lost to every major fighter he has fought bar Forrest? I'm not convinced that his career is more successful. Financially...yes, but the more successful? I'm unsure of that.
Well, he also beat Lewis, Piccirillio, Vargas and is soon to add Cotto to the list;)
Re: MMA Fighter Nick Diaz eyeing boxing fight with Mayorga or Vargas at 168lbs.
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You can't compare the two different disciplines but you can say that Mayorga has had a more successful boxing career than Diaz has had MMA career. Mayorga has wins over p4p top ten fighters and has the better win percetntGe in his own sport.
Mayorga has lost to every major fighter he has fought bar Forrest? I'm not convinced that his career is more successful. Financially...yes, but the more successful? I'm unsure of that.
Well, he also beat Lewis, Piccirillio, Vargas and is soon to add Cotto to the list;)
Lewis and piccirillio were decent fighters- never top fighters though.
Mayorga will not beat Cotto.
Even the buildup is boring- Mayorga is coming with the exact same rubbish as always and he'll be "humble" as always when he is outclassed and outfought
