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Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties :rolleyes: Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
This !!
Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.
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Originally Posted by BIG HCoz Hopkins has been shite in his forties :rolleyes: Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
This !!
Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.
and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is
he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HCoz Hopkins has been shite in his forties :rolleyes: Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
This !!
Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.
and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is
it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?
is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?
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Originally Posted by erics44he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HCoz Hopkins has been shite in his forties :rolleyes: Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
This !!
Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.
and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is
it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?
is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?
based on what ? that calzaghe threw more wild shots? hit the air more often than hopkins ?
and im pretty sure calzaghes win over veit was clear but he went back for more there didnt he
and Wlad is all over a rematch with haye because he sees the £££
Or the fact that Hopkins didn't wina round after round 4 and had no answer to Calzaghe's workrate.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HCoz Hopkins has been shite in his forties :rolleyes: Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
This !!
Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.
and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is
it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?
is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?
based on what ? that calzaghe threw more wild shots? hit the air more often than hopkins ?
and im pretty sure calzaghes win over veit was clear but he went back for more there didnt he
and Wlad is all over a rematch with haye because he sees the £££
exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HOr the fact that Hopkins didn't wina round after round 4 and had no answer to Calzaghe's workrate.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HCoz Hopkins has been shite in his forties :rolleyes: Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
This !!
Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.
and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is
it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?
is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?
based on what ? that calzaghe threw more wild shots? hit the air more often than hopkins ?
and im pretty sure calzaghes win over veit was clear but he went back for more there didnt he
and Wlad is all over a rematch with haye because he sees the £££
hopkins probably won the first 4, then landed 4 punches after that
it was the easiest fight ive ever seen to score
Calazaghe is a weird one. He took some valid challenges in Lacy and Kessler but then took on the likes of a past it Jones jr, Veit twice...but that was about it. I havent watched the fight in ages but i remember thinking Hopkins beat him. Also Kessler had him hurt on a few occasions when he actually threw the right hand in the early part of the fight then he just stopped.
Listen i don't care for Calzaghe that much but the man was champion for ten years. He also have a Hopkins Kessler and Lacy on record which not to bad either was Lineal champion in 168 and 175. He also retire undefeated i mean let us wait and see how these fighters end up people jump on new champs but they might end up being duds you never know Froch, ward, and Derril might not last so long who know i just think people jump on wagons far to fast let the career pan out a bit.
100% agree. Hopkins won the first 4 (10-8 in 1st) and Calzaghe won 5-12.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HOr the fact that Hopkins didn't wina round after round 4 and had no answer to Calzaghe's workrate.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HCoz Hopkins has been shite in his forties :rolleyes: Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
This !!
Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.
and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is
it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?
is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?
based on what ? that calzaghe threw more wild shots? hit the air more often than hopkins ?
and im pretty sure calzaghes win over veit was clear but he went back for more there didnt he
and Wlad is all over a rematch with haye because he sees the £££
hopkins probably won the first 4, then landed 4 punches after that
it was the easiest fight ive ever seen to score
115-112 Calzaghe - simples
Excellent objective opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
P.S - those mentioning Veit, he was mandatory contender when they fought and was 30-0 first time they fought. 2nd time, Calzgahe went over to Germany and Koed him again. OK so he wasn't great, but only Calzgahe Braemer and Inkin beat him and he finished 49-4
Calzaghe got a career high payday (£750,000) for the Veit rematch. The Germans won the purse bid. No UK broadcaster would buy the fight. It wasn't even on TV. So it was clearly never a big deal.
The only boxers in history that would turndown a career high payday, against men they've previously slaughtered inside 3 minutes, live in the nuthouse. Fact.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
a career high payday up till then in his career?
he must of got more for his last 4?
Of course up until then. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
a career high payday up till then in his career?
he must of got more for his last 4?
Calzaghe was struggling to sell 2000 tickets before Lacy launched him to the British public.
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Originally Posted by FensterOf course up until then. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
a career high payday up till then in his career?
he must of got more for his last 4?
Calzaghe was struggling to sell 2000 tickets before Lacy launched him to the British public.
aye silly me :)
Madness. You make it sound as if boxers are in this game for some kind of financial motivation, which couldn't be further from the truth. They are all in it for the legacy. Apart from the guys who have been at the top of the sport since about 1995. They're all money driven cowards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster