Why couldn't Calzaghe's peak have been around now :-(

[BIG H]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

[hitmanhatton]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is

[erics44]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is

he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)

it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?

is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?

[hitmanhatton]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is

he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)

it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?

is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?

based on what ? that calzaghe threw more wild shots? hit the air more often than hopkins ?

and im pretty sure calzaghes win over veit was clear but he went back for more there didnt he

and Wlad is all over a rematch with haye because he sees the £££

[BIG H]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is

he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)

it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?

is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?

based on what ? that calzaghe threw more wild shots? hit the air more often than hopkins ?

and im pretty sure calzaghes win over veit was clear but he went back for more there didnt he

and Wlad is all over a rematch with haye because he sees the £££

Or the fact that Hopkins didn't wina round after round 4 and had no answer to Calzaghe's workrate.

[erics44]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is

he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)

it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?

is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?

based on what ? that calzaghe threw more wild shots? hit the air more often than hopkins ?

and im pretty sure calzaghes win over veit was clear but he went back for more there didnt he

and Wlad is all over a rematch with haye because he sees the £££

Or the fact that Hopkins didn't wina round after round 4 and had no answer to Calzaghe's workrate.

exactly

hopkins probably won the first 4, then landed 4 punches after that

it was the easiest fight ive ever seen to score

[BIG H]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is

he beat hopkins convincingly (ok some crazy judge gave it to hopkins)

it was a clear win for calazaghi, why should he give him a rematch?

is wlad avoiding a rematch with haye like the plague?

based on what ? that calzaghe threw more wild shots? hit the air more often than hopkins ?

and im pretty sure calzaghes win over veit was clear but he went back for more there didnt he

and Wlad is all over a rematch with haye because he sees the £££

Or the fact that Hopkins didn't wina round after round 4 and had no answer to Calzaghe's workrate.

exactly

hopkins probably won the first 4, then landed 4 punches after that

it was the easiest fight ive ever seen to score

100% agree. Hopkins won the first 4 (10-8 in 1st) and Calzaghe won 5-12.

115-112 Calzaghe - simples

[Snakey]

Calazaghe is a weird one. He took some valid challenges in Lacy and Kessler but then took on the likes of a past it Jones jr, Veit twice...but that was about it. I havent watched the fight in ages but i remember thinking Hopkins beat him. Also Kessler had him hurt on a few occasions when he actually threw the right hand in the early part of the fight then he just stopped.

[Mr140]

Listen i don't care for Calzaghe that much but the man was champion for ten years. He also have a Hopkins Kessler and Lacy on record which not to bad either was Lineal champion in 168 and 175. He also retire undefeated i mean let us wait and see how these fighters end up people jump on new champs but they might end up being duds you never know Froch, ward, and Derril might not last so long who know i just think people jump on wagons far to fast let the career pan out a bit.

[porkypara]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

and then avoid a rematch like its the plague, claiming he doesnt do rematches ..... unless your marco veit that is

He had to fight Veit or he would have been stripped of his wbo belt.

[imp]

Calzaghe is a great boxer period.. But no way on earth would he beat prime roy at super middle..no one would. Not even wife beater ray robinson. Frank warren done well in keeping joe undefeated..just like rocky m they were both undefeated. But not the greatest.

[ICB]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

I think B-Hop beat Joe Calzaghe but im not going to debate it again, also his win over Winky Wright wasn't convincing i had it a draw, plus remember Winky Wright was bloated at that weightclass aswell.

B-Hop is still a very good fighter in his 40's, but he lacks the stamina he once had and the aggression. If he had fought Joe Calzaghe when he destroyed Glen Johnson, i think he would of won even wider like 8-4.

[erics44]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

I think B-Hop beat Joe Calzaghe but im not going to debate it again, also his win over Winky Wright wasn't convincing i had it a draw, plus remember Winky Wright was bloated at that weightclass aswell.

B-Hop is still a very good fighter in his 40's, but he lacks the stamina he once had and the aggression. If he had fought Joe Calzaghe when he destroyed Glen Johnson, i think he would of won even wider like 8-4.

I am at a loss to how anyone can think calazaghi lost to hopkins

i like the debates that boxing brings when fights go to descision even some less debateable descisions can be debated but that fight was so clear cut, i dont think there can be any question who won

[ICB]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

I think B-Hop beat Joe Calzaghe but im not going to debate it again, also his win over Winky Wright wasn't convincing i had it a draw, plus remember Winky Wright was bloated at that weightclass aswell.

B-Hop is still a very good fighter in his 40's, but he lacks the stamina he once had and the aggression. If he had fought Joe Calzaghe when he destroyed Glen Johnson, i think he would of won even wider like 8-4.

I am at a loss to how anyone can think calazaghi lost to hopkins

i like the debates that boxing brings when fights go to descision even some less debateable descisions can be debated but that fight was so clear cut, i dont think there can be any question who won

Im at a loss how you thought Carl Froch beat Mikkel Kessler but thats just my opinion. I said i didn't want to debate it again, because its been debated to death trust me. I just liked B-Hop's cleaner punches.

[erics44]

calzaghe wouldnt have fought them if he was around now they are not in their 40's.

This !!

Coz Hopkins has been shite in his forties Coming off convincing wins against Tarver and Winky, he loses to Calzaghe, then goes on to dominate undefeated Pavlik and even now is beating the likes of Pascal and lined up to fight Chad Dawson next.

Somebody who 'ducks' people, doesn't fight Lacy (when everybody thought he was the 2nd coming) or undefeated Mikhael Kesler.

I think B-Hop beat Joe Calzaghe but im not going to debate it again, also his win over Winky Wright wasn't convincing i had it a draw, plus remember Winky Wright was bloated at that weightclass aswell.

B-Hop is still a very good fighter in his 40's, but he lacks the stamina he once had and the aggression. If he had fought Joe Calzaghe when he destroyed Glen Johnson, i think he would of won even wider like 8-4.

I am at a loss to how anyone can think calazaghi lost to hopkins

i like the debates that boxing brings when fights go to descision even some less debateable descisions can be debated but that fight was so clear cut, i dont think there can be any question who won

Im at a loss how you thought Carl Froch beat Mikkel Kessler but thats just my opinion. I said i didn't want to debate it again, because its been debated to death trust me. I just liked B-Hop's cleaner punches.

i did think froch won that fight, i can understand a case for the other way but i thought froch won a close fight, even those that thought kessler won thought it was close and some rounds could be seen either way

i wont mention hopkins calazaghi gain then if you dont want to talk about it