Eubanks v McClellan

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by ICB

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

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I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

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You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

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John Jarvis was a nobody brought in to make Eubank look good , he had been koed 3 times , and qualified for the Eubank fight by being KOED in 3 in his last fight by the light punching Darrin van Horne.

G-man would have been to much for him, and for me would have stopped him with constant pressure or by UD.
and for the record Eubank was never even close to being called GREAT!

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by ICB

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

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I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

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You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

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John Jarvis was a nobody brought in to make Eubank look good , he had been koed 3 times , and qualified for the Eubank fight by being KOED in 3 in his last fight by the light punching Darrin van Horne.

G-man would have been to much for him, and for me would have stopped him with constant pressure or by UD.
and for the record Eubank was never even close to being called GREAT!

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nail on the head. no disrespect to eubanks...he was a very good fighter...but gerald was a BEAST. it's not his fault many of his fights didn't go late because he took care of business early. just an awesome combination of power, skill, and pressure...he could KO you both to the head and body.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by ICB

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

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I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

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You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

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John Jarvis was a nobody brought in to make Eubank look good , he had been koed 3 times , and qualified for the Eubank fight by being KOED in 3 in his last fight by the light punching Darrin van Horne.

G-man would have been to much for him, and for me would have stopped him with constant pressure or by UD.
and for the record Eubank was never even close to being called GREAT!

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Im not saying John Jarvis was anything special, i was just saying Chris Eubank could really punch when he was motivated. And when he was tested he did have great attributes, you don't win 20 world title fights without having something special about you.

Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his career, apart from the 1st Julian Jackson fight but Julian Jackson was on the downslide.

Outside of that his only other real notable win, was against a washed up John Mugabi who had already been dismantled by Terry Norris.

So it's hard to tell if he could of lasted the full 12, with a motivated Chris Eubank. When before the Nigel Benn fight he'd only ever gone 8 rounds.

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by ICB

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

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I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

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You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

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John Jarvis was a nobody brought in to make Eubank look good , he had been koed 3 times , and qualified for the Eubank fight by being KOED in 3 in his last fight by the light punching Darrin van Horne.

G-man would have been to much for him, and for me would have stopped him with constant pressure or by UD.
and for the record Eubank was never even close to being called GREAT!

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Im not saying John Jarvis was anything special, i was just saying Chris Eubank could really punch when he was motivated. And when he was tested he did have great attributes, you don't win 20 world title fights without having something special about you.

Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his career, apart from the 1st Julian Jackson fight but Julian Jackson was on the downslide.

Outside of that his only other real notable win, was against a washed up John Mugabi who had already been dismantled by Terry Norris.

So it's hard to tell if he could of lasted the full 12, with a motivated Chris Eubank. When before the Nigel Benn fight he'd only ever gone 8 rounds.

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yes ok some fair points Ice , but winning 20 world title fights isnt so hard when you fight guys like , Jarvis , Sherry , Schommer , Close , Essett , etc , fact is Eubank lost about 5 fights according to most experts , but got split points wins.
I read an old boxing news the other day , they had Eubank losing 7 of 10 fights they examined.
Eubank had a great chin , but couldnt handle constant pressure , i just dont see him beating G-MAN.
Ray close - Collins gave Eubank hell throwing lots of leather , but niether could punch.

Eubanks himself was damaged in the sense he did not like to finish opponents when he had them hurt, but I think he would have been forced by the G Man to stop Gerald. Eubanks had a spirit that would not be denied.

G Man was complaining of headaches after the Julian Jackson fight which was brutal, and he only started winning that after a headbutt. I do think he was brought to the UK to take the title from Benn. They did not expect Benn to put that much of a fight.

Would have been an interesting one.

Its one of those - I always fancied Eubank slightly over Benn in a match up , maybe he just had his number. But at the same time I always thought Benn would fare better against the world's elite than Eubankwith his pure warrior style.

It was Nigel's punching power that wore g-man down that night and Eubank couldn't hit like Benn. G-man would dominate the early stages but doubt he could have taken Eubank out. With this in mind I would say that G-man would maybe edge a close decision.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by ICB

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

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I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

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You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

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John Jarvis was a nobody brought in to make Eubank look good , he had been koed 3 times , and qualified for the Eubank fight by being KOED in 3 in his last fight by the light punching Darrin van Horne.

G-man would have been to much for him, and for me would have stopped him with constant pressure or by UD.
and for the record Eubank was never even close to being called GREAT!

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mate eubank had a chin of steal, maybe a ud but he definately wouldnt have stopped him

and if eubank wasnt great then he was pretty damn close

especially since he is still one of the most talked about and written about boxers in history

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

Would have been an interesting one.

Its one of those - I always fancied Eubank slightly over Benn in a match up , maybe he just had his number. But at the same time I always thought Benn would fare better against the world's elite than Eubankwith his pure warrior style.

It was Nigel's punching power that wore g-man down that night and Eubank couldn't hit like Benn. G-man would dominate the early stages but doubt he could have taken Eubank out. With this in mind I would say that G-man would maybe edge a close decision.

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Chris Eubank could hit very hard when motivated, and if Nigel Benn who's chin wasn't great survived against Gerald McClellan. Then Chris Eubank would for 100 percent not get KO'ed, i mean he did take huge shots off a big punching Cruiserweight without tasting the canvas.

I think Gerald McClellan is getting a bit overrated here, sure he looked very good with his early knockouts. But who did he ever really beat ? and he was outpointed twice. And was never really in a tough fight against an elite opponent.

So im going with the tougher and much more proven, Chris Eubank any day of the week.

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

Would have been an interesting one.

Its one of those - I always fancied Eubank slightly over Benn in a match up , maybe he just had his number. But at the same time I always thought Benn would fare better against the world's elite than Eubankwith his pure warrior style.

It was Nigel's punching power that wore g-man down that night and Eubank couldn't hit like Benn. G-man would dominate the early stages but doubt he could have taken Eubank out. With this in mind I would say that G-man would maybe edge a close decision.

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Chris Eubank could hit very hard when motivated, and if Nigel Benn who's chin wasn't great survived against Gerald McClellan. Then Chris Eubank would for 100 percent not get KO'ed, i mean he did take huge shots off a big punching Cruiserweight without tasting the canvas.

I think Gerald McClellan is getting a bit overrated here, sure he looked very good with his early knockouts. But who did he ever really beat ? and he was outpointed twice. And was never really in a tough fight against an elite opponent.

So im going with the tougher and much more proven, Chris Eubank any day of the week.

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The second Eubank v Watson fight , when watsons constant pressure dropped eubank , thats how i see the fight going.
but im not doubting eubanks chin, it was steel.
Im with Marktko who said eubank beat benn , but benn does better against other top fighters.

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

Would have been an interesting one.

Its one of those - I always fancied Eubank slightly over Benn in a match up , maybe he just had his number. But at the same time I always thought Benn would fare better against the world's elite than Eubankwith his pure warrior style.

It was Nigel's punching power that wore g-man down that night and Eubank couldn't hit like Benn. G-man would dominate the early stages but doubt he could have taken Eubank out. With this in mind I would say that G-man would maybe edge a close decision.

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Chris Eubank could hit very hard when motivated, and if Nigel Benn who's chin wasn't great survived against Gerald McClellan. Then Chris Eubank would for 100 percent not get KO'ed, i mean he did take huge shots off a big punching Cruiserweight without tasting the canvas.

I think Gerald McClellan is getting a bit overrated here, sure he looked very good with his early knockouts. But who did he ever really beat ? and he was outpointed twice. And was never really in a tough fight against an elite opponent.

So im going with the tougher and much more proven, Chris Eubank any day of the week.

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The second Eubank v Watson fight , when watsons constant pressure dropped eubank , thats how i see the fight going.
but im not doubting eubanks chin, it was steel.
Im with the guy who said eubank beat benn , but benn does better against other top fighters.

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Michael Watson had a better much defense though, and that was arguably the fight of his life. Infact i think that Michael Watson would of beaten Gerald McClellan.

McClellan never won a 12 round fight. Eubank has an iron chin. Arguably Eubank fought better the more dangerous the opponent.

There's only one winner here and it ain't G-man.

(probably been controversial though)

Agreed about both the above posts :)

I like McClellan vs the '95 Eubank. Eubank could be out hustled and Gerald was not just some club swinging bomber regardless of early kos over undeniably some guys straight out of a witness protection program. He had some fast hands and was a crippling body hitter too. The guy could box , flat out. His probs early were tension with Manny, shit sparring, numerous fights falling through and putting on damn near 12-15 lbs on fight night on occasion. When he split with Manny he was making improvments but he and others were badly mistaken going into Benn fight. All the blab about Benns glass chin, Benn losing his punch and trying to be a boxer. The best thing that happened to Nigel and the worst for Gerald was damn near decapitating Benn right off the bat. Benn just instantly reverted into his roots and went free swinging, feet planted bomber. Had he stayed out, tried to box and not be prepared to be badly ko'd himself I think Gerald may have power boxed him down the stretch. He started the fight from the ko and had no choice to maintain at fever pitch or fall. I think he approaches Eubank much wiser and with much less assumption. Different mental make up, style, power etc between Benn & Eubank.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

McClellan never won a 12 round fight. Eubank has an iron chin. Arguably Eubank fought better the more dangerous the opponent.

There's only one winner here and it ain't G-man.

(probably been controversial though)

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Coz he never fought one! Never needed to ;)

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

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What work rate??

McClellan was never a swarmer. He would circle opponents and use his jab as a range-finder, and rely on amazing timing. He had extremely heavy hands, that's for sure.

He was taller and rangier than Eubank, but Eubank was almost impossible to hit cleanly with a jab or straight combination due to his perception (slightly out of range) and reflexes (subtle head movement). They were both massive, coming in at 180+ and remaining chiseled.

Eubank shifted his body better, moved his feet better, doubled his jab faster and threw more right hands to the body, and had much more flexibility, so I would go with Eubank to out-box Gerald in a chess-type match with McClellan looking for the big overarm right and getting frustrated.