Eubanks v McClellan

[ICB]

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

[marbleheadmaui]

G-Man never was in a long, tough fight but once and it almost killed him. There is no way Eubank doesn't make this a long grueling fight.

Doesn't one have to conclude that G-man simply didn't have the physical constitution for that kind of fight and Eubank would have won and maybe hurt him as well?

[BIG H]

G-Man never was in a long, tough fight but once and it almost killed him. There is no way Eubank doesn't make this a long grueling fight.

Doesn't one have to conclude that G-man simply didn't have the physical constitution for that kind of fight and Eubank would have won and maybe hurt him as well?

We only don't know if he could 'go long' in a fight, becuase he never had to. The only time he did it wasn't fatigue that stopped him.

[marbleheadmaui]

G-Man never was in a long, tough fight but once and it almost killed him. There is no way Eubank doesn't make this a long grueling fight.

Doesn't one have to conclude that G-man simply didn't have the physical constitution for that kind of fight and Eubank would have won and maybe hurt him as well?

We only don't know if he could 'go long' in a fight, becuase he never had to. The only time he did it wasn't fatigue that stopped him.

I didn't make myself clear enough. The only time he was in a long fight his skull, neck muscles etc were unable to prevent his brain from being nearly fatally damaged. That's what I mean by physical constitution. He was like Meldrick Taylor in that his body just wasn't capable of dealing with being struck repeatedly without being permanently damaged.

[BIG H]

G-Man never was in a long, tough fight but once and it almost killed him. There is no way Eubank doesn't make this a long grueling fight.

Doesn't one have to conclude that G-man simply didn't have the physical constitution for that kind of fight and Eubank would have won and maybe hurt him as well?

We only don't know if he could 'go long' in a fight, becuase he never had to. The only time he did it wasn't fatigue that stopped him.

I didn't make myself clear enough. The only time he was in a long fight his skull, neck muscles etc were unable to prevent his brain from being nearly fatally damaged. That's what I mean by physical constitution. He was like Meldrick Taylor in that his body just wasn't capable of dealing with being struck repeatedly without being permanently damaged.

Who knows? I suspect what happend was just one of those horrible freak accidents that sometimes happen.

[marbleheadmaui]

G-Man never was in a long, tough fight but once and it almost killed him. There is no way Eubank doesn't make this a long grueling fight.

Doesn't one have to conclude that G-man simply didn't have the physical constitution for that kind of fight and Eubank would have won and maybe hurt him as well?

We only don't know if he could 'go long' in a fight, becuase he never had to. The only time he did it wasn't fatigue that stopped him.

I didn't make myself clear enough. The only time he was in a long fight his skull, neck muscles etc were unable to prevent his brain from being nearly fatally damaged. That's what I mean by physical constitution. He was like Meldrick Taylor in that his body just wasn't capable of dealing with being struck repeatedly without being permanently damaged.

Who knows? I suspect what happend was just one of those horrible freak accidents that sometimes happen.

I dunno. When a guy who has never been in a tough fight before gets permanently damaged in his first grueling fight? I think it's likely that's telling us something. But no way to know for sure of course.

[ICB]

It was his rough sparring session's that caused it, he also took a few hard knocks off Julian Jackson in there 1st fight that didn't help either.

[Memphis]

G-Man never was in a long, tough fight but once and it almost killed him.

I think thats a bit unfair considering he was damaged goods before he came over for that fight. Sickening to think just how many people knew about it too.

[armyash]

G-Man never was in a long, tough fight but once and it almost killed him.

I think thats a bit unfair considering he was damaged goods before he came over for that fight. Sickening to think just how many people knew about it too.

I don't think i have heard that before, how come was he already carrying injuries or something?

I have read the book 'war, baby' which may have talked about what you have mentioned but i can't remember as it was years ago.

[Dark Lord Al]

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

John Jarvis was a nobody brought in to make Eubank look good , he had been koed 3 times , and qualified for the Eubank fight by being KOED in 3 in his last fight by the light punching Darrin van Horne.

G-man would have been to much for him, and for me would have stopped him with constant pressure or by UD.
and for the record Eubank was never even close to being called GREAT!

[zhubin]

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

John Jarvis was a nobody brought in to make Eubank look good , he had been koed 3 times , and qualified for the Eubank fight by being KOED in 3 in his last fight by the light punching Darrin van Horne.

G-man would have been to much for him, and for me would have stopped him with constant pressure or by UD.
and for the record Eubank was never even close to being called GREAT!

nail on the head. no disrespect to eubanks...he was a very good fighter...but gerald was a BEAST. it's not his fault many of his fights didn't go late because he took care of business early. just an awesome combination of power, skill, and pressure...he could KO you both to the head and body.

[ICB]

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

John Jarvis was a nobody brought in to make Eubank look good , he had been koed 3 times , and qualified for the Eubank fight by being KOED in 3 in his last fight by the light punching Darrin van Horne.

G-man would have been to much for him, and for me would have stopped him with constant pressure or by UD.
and for the record Eubank was never even close to being called GREAT!

Im not saying John Jarvis was anything special, i was just saying Chris Eubank could really punch when he was motivated. And when he was tested he did have great attributes, you don't win 20 world title fights without having something special about you.

Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his career, apart from the 1st Julian Jackson fight but Julian Jackson was on the downslide.

Outside of that his only other real notable win, was against a washed up John Mugabi who had already been dismantled by Terry Norris.

So it's hard to tell if he could of lasted the full 12, with a motivated Chris Eubank. When before the Nigel Benn fight he'd only ever gone 8 rounds.

[Dark Lord Al]

Great match up i think Chris Eubank would of stopped him late on, this would of been one of those nights where Chris Eubank would of been forced to show how great he was.

I just can't see that! 'G Man' was too active for Eubank - he wouldn't have been able to just do enough like he always did. He wouldn't have been able to live with the work rate. Eubbank's chin was cast iron, so assuming G' Man' could go 12, he would win UD imo.

You could be right but i just think Chris Eubank, would be put in situation like he was against Benn 1, Watson 2. Where he would show how great he was, remember Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his pro career.

So i don't know if he could survive the full distance, with a motivated Chris Eubank. Who could hit very hard when he had to aswell see John Jarvis fight.

John Jarvis was a nobody brought in to make Eubank look good , he had been koed 3 times , and qualified for the Eubank fight by being KOED in 3 in his last fight by the light punching Darrin van Horne.

G-man would have been to much for him, and for me would have stopped him with constant pressure or by UD.
and for the record Eubank was never even close to being called GREAT!

Im not saying John Jarvis was anything special, i was just saying Chris Eubank could really punch when he was motivated. And when he was tested he did have great attributes, you don't win 20 world title fights without having something special about you.

Gerald McClellan was never really tested in his career, apart from the 1st Julian Jackson fight but Julian Jackson was on the downslide.

Outside of that his only other real notable win, was against a washed up John Mugabi who had already been dismantled by Terry Norris.

So it's hard to tell if he could of lasted the full 12, with a motivated Chris Eubank. When before the Nigel Benn fight he'd only ever gone 8 rounds.

yes ok some fair points Ice , but winning 20 world title fights isnt so hard when you fight guys like , Jarvis , Sherry , Schommer , Close , Essett , etc , fact is Eubank lost about 5 fights according to most experts , but got split points wins.
I read an old boxing news the other day , they had Eubank losing 7 of 10 fights they examined.
Eubank had a great chin , but couldnt handle constant pressure , i just dont see him beating G-MAN.
Ray close - Collins gave Eubank hell throwing lots of leather , but niether could punch.

[Master]

Eubanks himself was damaged in the sense he did not like to finish opponents when he had them hurt, but I think he would have been forced by the G Man to stop Gerald. Eubanks had a spirit that would not be denied.

G Man was complaining of headaches after the Julian Jackson fight which was brutal, and he only started winning that after a headbutt. I do think he was brought to the UK to take the title from Benn. They did not expect Benn to put that much of a fight.

[Mark TKO]

Would have been an interesting one.

Its one of those - I always fancied Eubank slightly over Benn in a match up , maybe he just had his number. But at the same time I always thought Benn would fare better against the world's elite than Eubankwith his pure warrior style.

It was Nigel's punching power that wore g-man down that night and Eubank couldn't hit like Benn. G-man would dominate the early stages but doubt he could have taken Eubank out. With this in mind I would say that G-man would maybe edge a close decision.