Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
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The ONLY similarities are that Rees is from Wales and Broner is from the US. For a better comparison with a Welshman fighting an American, look no further than when Gary Lockett made the trip over to face Kelly Pavlik in 2008, and Kelly Pavlik blew him out of the water in three rounds. Like his trainer was when he faced the Ghost from Youngstown, Lockett, Rees is a good domestic-level pug, facing a world-level talent in Broner. The sole reason this fight is getting attention at all is because Broner is in it. Otherwise, it belongs on ESPN FNF. It's a total mismatch. It won't go more than 4 rounds. Mark my words.
Please don't take that as any disrespect for Rees. Credit to him. He's coming to the USA to fight a p4p-type fighter. He also seems like a good dude and hopefully he makes a pretty penny for this fight.
Not a good comparison because he lost. Idiot.
Also, Rees wan a world title. He has been world class. Lockett never was and whereas Rees has moved down after winning a world title, Lockett had moved up from light middle. Rees will not be the weeker man. He mit be smaller but Broner will be surprised at Rees strength!
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
Hah, what a thread. Rees will be the stronger man, Ross are you high? This fight will be over whenever Broner wants it to be the way I see it, and I think he's a turd as well.
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
Broner maybe Jeff Lacy II, time will tell. Sadly though, I doubt Rees is Calzaghe II, but instead, more like Reid II...
Hope I am wrong, but I am taking Broner in a mid to late round stoppage, with Rees bravely going out on his shield.
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
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Hah, what a thread. Rees will be the stronger man, Ross are you high? This fight will be over whenever Broner wants it to be the way I see it, and I think he's a turd as well.
I didnt say Rees will be stronger, just that he wont be weaker. Not like an ex light middle Lockett moving up to fight a very strong Natural middle Pavlik.
Broner has had it drummed in to his head with fans, media and odds makers telling him this is a complete walkover and he will destroy Rees very quickly. If he has taken any of that in he will be in for a surprise that Rees will be able to push him back.
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
I don't give Rees any chance at all, but he comes to fight so this should be interesting while it lasts. Gavin will put everything he's got into this and could potentially give Broner a few uncomfortable moments, but that's about it.
Rees probably gets stopped on his feet in the middle to late rounds.
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
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Broner maybe Jeff Lacy II, time will tell. Sadly though, I doubt Rees is Calzaghe II, but instead, more like Reid II...
Hope I am wrong, but I am taking Broner in a mid to late round stoppage, with Rees bravely going out on his shield.
Broner is no Lacy and will not be a Jeff Lacy. Broner has that born with talent that was not developed by anyone but himself. Yes he's a twat but he's also a kind of hybrid. A subtle mixture of Benton, Floyd and Burley. Lacy was a one dimensional hooker and the only reason he had the success he did is because his opponents broke a cardinal rule which is never hook with a hooker.
In a perfect world he fights Gamboa but due to strained relationships I cant see that happening. Marquez would be interesting but the timing of his rise may coincide with Juans retirement.
FTR there is a part of me actually cheering for Gavin because of the odds and the way he has been written off as some domestic unworthy of the task.
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
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Britkid
Broner maybe Jeff Lacy II, time will tell. Sadly though, I doubt Rees is Calzaghe II, but instead, more like Reid II...
Hope I am wrong, but I am taking Broner in a mid to late round stoppage, with Rees bravely going out on his shield.
Broner is no Lacy and will not be a Jeff Lacy. Broner has that born with talent that was not developed by anyone but himself. Yes he's a twat but he's also a kind of hybrid. A subtle mixture of Benton, Floyd and Burley.
Possibly; but who is to say that hindsight may show it was a mixture of Benton's power, Floyd Snr's drug habit and Burley's political connections?
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Lacy was a one dimensional hooker and the only reason he had the success he did is because his opponents broke a cardinal rule which is never hook with a hooker.
That is written with years of hindsight. Many of us were seriously high on Lacy, who was a hybrid too, of Barkley (limited but brave), Tua (left hook) and Davey Moore (one fight ruined him)...
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
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Britkid
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IamInuit
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Britkid
Broner maybe Jeff Lacy II, time will tell. Sadly though, I doubt Rees is Calzaghe II, but instead, more like Reid II...
Hope I am wrong, but I am taking Broner in a mid to late round stoppage, with Rees bravely going out on his shield.
Broner is no Lacy and will not be a Jeff Lacy. Broner has that born with talent that was not developed by anyone but himself. Yes he's a twat but he's also a kind of hybrid. A subtle mixture of Benton, Floyd and Burley.
Possibly; but who is to say that hindsight may show it was a mixture of Benton's power, Floyd Snr's drug habit and Burley's political connections?
Huh? That is your interpretation to what I said.
Here is mine. Bentons shoulder roll defense combined with Floyd Jr's counter punching with mule kick power from either side on a Burley seek and destroy mission.
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Lacy was a one dimensional hooker and the only reason he had the success he did is because his opponents broke a cardinal rule which is never hook with a hooker.
That is written with years of hindsight. Many of us were seriously high on Lacy, who was a hybrid too, of Barkley (limited but brave), Tua (left hook) and Davey Moore (one fight ruined him)...
Years of hindsight? I followed both of their careers in real time. I knew Joe would make him his chamber maid. How was Lacy a hybrid?
How is the Lacy/Calzaghe fight even come close to this style wise or any other wise?
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
All I know is that if I hear Lampley lament Broner as the next coming of any proven and completed ATG and not simply a talented world champion with very high potential my TV is at risk ;D.
HBO and hysteria/hype run rampant sometimes. Respects to Rees but this showcase is here to make it all the more easier and common.
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
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ross
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Vendettos
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Rantcatrat
The ONLY similarities are that Rees is from Wales and Broner is from the US. For a better comparison with a Welshman fighting an American, look no further than when Gary Lockett made the trip over to face Kelly Pavlik in 2008, and Kelly Pavlik blew him out of the water in three rounds. Like his trainer was when he faced the Ghost from Youngstown, Lockett, Rees is a good domestic-level pug, facing a world-level talent in Broner. The sole reason this fight is getting attention at all is because Broner is in it. Otherwise, it belongs on ESPN FNF. It's a total mismatch. It won't go more than 4 rounds. Mark my words.
Please don't take that as any disrespect for Rees. Credit to him. He's coming to the USA to fight a p4p-type fighter. He also seems like a good dude and hopefully he makes a pretty penny for this fight.
Not a good comparison because he lost. Idiot.
Also, Rees wan a world title. He has been world class. Lockett never was and whereas Rees has moved down after winning a world title, Lockett had moved up from light middle. Rees will not be the weeker man.
He mit be smaller but Broner will be surprised at Rees strength!
Dream on Ross, this will be a mismatch and 'showcase' fight for little Boner, I doubt that it will go more then 5 rounds, sorry bro, but as the Fenster might say, that's a fact Jack.
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
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Originally Posted by
Britkid
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Britkid
Broner maybe Jeff Lacy II, time will tell. Sadly though, I doubt Rees is Calzaghe II, but instead, more like Reid II...
Hope I am wrong, but I am taking Broner in a mid to late round stoppage, with Rees bravely going out on his shield.
Broner is no Lacy and will not be a Jeff Lacy. Broner has that born with talent that was not developed by anyone but himself. Yes he's a twat but he's also a kind of hybrid. A subtle mixture of Benton, Floyd and Burley.
Possibly; but who is to say that hindsight may show it was a mixture of Benton's power, Floyd Snr's drug habit and Burley's political connections?
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Lacy was a one dimensional hooker and the only reason he had the success he did is because his opponents broke a cardinal rule which is never hook with a hooker.
That is written with years of hindsight. Many of us were seriously high on Lacy, who was a hybrid too, of Barkley (limited but brave), Tua (left hook) and Davey Moore (one fight ruined him)...
Not to diss Mr. Rees, but he's in way over his head, i'm sure he will be courageous, but he hasn't got a fucking prayer.
Re: Can Gavin Rees make Broner Jeff Lacy II?
Rees won't make Broner look like Lacy, it'll be the other way round.