Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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Tom Loeffler has done a great job for Golovkin, if HBO don't resign him they really must be giving boxing the boot.
Not sure why you guys care so much about how many millions a millionaire will make in future, but whoever Golovkin fights he wont make as much as he has with Canelo, who's worth more than all the other middleweights put together.
I don't care how much these guys get, but they do risk their lives for our entertainment. When a cheater like Canelo or a guy like Broner are getting paid well, GGG deserves some good paydays.
If the fight is close we may get a 3rd fight. Canelo will still bring big $$$.
Granted mate just in boxing you don't get what you deserve you get what you negotiate.
Golovkin has done terrific through boxing. Deservedly so.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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Tom Loeffler has done a great job for Golovkin, if HBO don't resign him they really must be giving boxing the boot.
Not sure why you guys care so much about how many millions a millionaire will make in future, but whoever Golovkin fights he wont make as much as he has with Canelo, who's worth more than all the other middleweights put together.
I don't care how much these guys get, but they do risk their lives for our entertainment. When a cheater like Canelo or a guy like Broner are getting paid well, GGG deserves some good paydays.
If the fight is close we may get a 3rd fight. Canelo will still bring big $$$.
Do not want to see a 3rd fight. Even a close Golovkin win will do and he moves on.
Canelo will always make money whoever he fights.
No I wouldn't want to see a 3rd unless it was controversial. But a if it was close it would probably make GGG the most money, which I could see him taking.
I honestly could see Golovkin turn it down.
He's waited on Canelo this long. He wants the biggest purses possible at this stage of his career.
I think there comes a point where his dignity and pride will tell him that it would be better to take on other challengers.
There could be more money in the fight later on with Canelo anyway when the appetite and situation with other challengers is improved.
I gave GGG a pass for this fight (kind of), so if he took a third fight, I would quit caring about him.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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Tom Loeffler has done a great job for Golovkin, if HBO don't resign him they really must be giving boxing the boot.
Not sure why you guys care so much about how many millions a millionaire will make in future, but whoever Golovkin fights he wont make as much as he has with Canelo, who's worth more than all the other middleweights put together.
Exactly. Golovkin's best hope after Saturday night is that another fight with Alvarez is a viable fight that people want to see and Alvarez wants to make. Ideally a close points win for Golovkin in a fight that is exciting enough that people want to see it again. Golovkin has had a lot of hard fights, he's been making 160 for over half his life and he's at the tail end of a long career.
He made more money from the first Alvarez fight than he had in his entire previous career and this one will set him up nicely. After Saturday night he's either looking at tens of millions for a third Alvarez fight or two or three million per fight for fighting guys like Charlo.
Seriously, in his position, how many of you would fancy signing a four or five fight contract to fight a bunch of hungry guys like Charlo when you could make more money with one fight against a guy who isn't going to do you any serious damage? I'd take the trilogy fight and sail off into the sunset.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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Tom Loeffler has done a great job for Golovkin, if HBO don't resign him they really must be giving boxing the boot.
Not sure why you guys care so much about how many millions a millionaire will make in future, but whoever Golovkin fights he wont make as much as he has with Canelo, who's worth more than all the other middleweights put together.
Exactly. Golovkin's best hope after Saturday night is that another fight with Alvarez is a viable fight that people want to see and Alvarez wants to make. Ideally a close points win for Golovkin in a fight that is exciting enough that people want to see it again. Golovkin has had a lot of hard fights, he's been making 160 for over half his life and he's at the tail end of a long career.
He made more money from the first Alvarez fight than he had in his entire previous career and this one will set him up nicely. After Saturday night he's either looking at tens of millions for a third Alvarez fight or two or three million per fight for fighting guys like Charlo.
Seriously, in his position, how many of you would fancy signing a four or five fight contract to fight a bunch of hungry guys like Charlo when you could make more money with one fight against a guy who isn't going to do you any serious damage? I'd take the trilogy fight and sail off into the sunset.
I understand that money talks, but if GGG won a fight on PTS, who would be interested in a third fight when GGG beat him twice clearly?
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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Tom Loeffler has done a great job for Golovkin, if HBO don't resign him they really must be giving boxing the boot.
Not sure why you guys care so much about how many millions a millionaire will make in future, but whoever Golovkin fights he wont make as much as he has with Canelo, who's worth more than all the other middleweights put together.
Exactly. Golovkin's best hope after Saturday night is that another fight with Alvarez is a viable fight that people want to see and Alvarez wants to make. Ideally a close points win for Golovkin in a fight that is exciting enough that people want to see it again. Golovkin has had a lot of hard fights, he's been making 160 for over half his life and he's at the tail end of a long career.
He made more money from the first Alvarez fight than he had in his entire previous career and this one will set him up nicely. After Saturday night he's either looking at tens of millions for a third Alvarez fight or two or three million per fight for fighting guys like Charlo.
Seriously, in his position, how many of you would fancy signing a four or five fight contract to fight a bunch of hungry guys like Charlo when you could make more money with one fight against a guy who isn't going to do you any serious damage? I'd take the trilogy fight and sail off into the sunset.
I understand that money talks, but if GGG won a fight on PTS, who would be interested in a third fight when GGG beat him twice clearly?
The people buying this fight in the main are Mexican fans. They're the biggest chunk of PPV paying fans out there by a country mile. You've basically got hardcore boxing fans who buy PPVs, and you can see how many of those there are by looking at the shit Golovkin Jacobs PPV numbers, and Mexicans/Mexican-Americans. That's why this fight is happening on Mexican Independence day. It's why the last one was on Cinco De Mayo. That's why Floyd only ever fought on those dates for almost all his PPV career. Hispanics get together and all chip a few dollars in and have a PPV party on their celebration days and everybody makes money.
So if Alvarez loses then it's an easy sell. Alvarez fans want to see if he can get revenge. Hardcore fans buy it anyway because it's a big event and if a few of them don't it doesn't affect total sale very much.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
I heard Alvarez is going to be have some burritos flown in from Guadalajara Mexico you know the special kind with d asthma medication mixed in
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
HBO is a like a sinking ship, it's time for Golovkin to leave.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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Tom Loeffler has done a great job for Golovkin, if HBO don't resign him they really must be giving boxing the boot.
Not sure why you guys care so much about how many millions a millionaire will make in future, but whoever Golovkin fights he wont make as much as he has with Canelo, who's worth more than all the other middleweights put together.
Exactly. Golovkin's best hope after Saturday night is that another fight with Alvarez is a viable fight that people want to see and Alvarez wants to make. Ideally a close points win for Golovkin in a fight that is exciting enough that people want to see it again. Golovkin has had a lot of hard fights, he's been making 160 for over half his life and he's at the tail end of a long career.
He made more money from the first Alvarez fight than he had in his entire previous career and this one will set him up nicely. After Saturday night he's either looking at tens of millions for a third Alvarez fight or two or three million per fight for fighting guys like Charlo.
Seriously, in his position, how many of you would fancy signing a four or five fight contract to fight a bunch of hungry guys like Charlo when you could make more money with one fight against a guy who isn't going to do you any serious damage? I'd take the trilogy fight and sail off into the sunset.
I understand that money talks, but if GGG won a fight on PTS, who would be interested in a third fight when GGG beat him twice clearly?
The people buying this fight in the main are Mexican fans. They're the biggest chunk of PPV paying fans out there by a country mile. You've basically got hardcore boxing fans who buy PPVs, and you can see how many of those there are by looking at the shit Golovkin Jacobs PPV numbers, and Mexicans/Mexican-Americans. That's why this fight is happening on Mexican Independence day. It's why the last one was on Cinco De Mayo. That's why Floyd only ever fought on those dates for almost all his PPV career. Hispanics get together and all chip a few dollars in and have a PPV party on their celebration days and everybody makes money.
So if Alvarez loses then it's an easy sell. Alvarez fans want to see if he can get revenge. Hardcore fans buy it anyway because it's a big event and if a few of them don't it doesn't affect total sale very much.
Well lets hope for an emphatic and decisive Golovkin win then. :)
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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HBO is a like a sinking ship, it's time for Golovkin to leave.
So true.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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Tom Loeffler has done a great job for Golovkin, if HBO don't resign him they really must be giving boxing the boot.
Not sure why you guys care so much about how many millions a millionaire will make in future, but whoever Golovkin fights he wont make as much as he has with Canelo, who's worth more than all the other middleweights put together.
Exactly. Golovkin's best hope after Saturday night is that another fight with Alvarez is a viable fight that people want to see and Alvarez wants to make. Ideally a close points win for Golovkin in a fight that is exciting enough that people want to see it again. Golovkin has had a lot of hard fights, he's been making 160 for over half his life and he's at the tail end of a long career.
He made more money from the first Alvarez fight than he had in his entire previous career and this one will set him up nicely. After Saturday night he's either looking at tens of millions for a third Alvarez fight or two or three million per fight for fighting guys like Charlo.
Seriously, in his position, how many of you would fancy signing a four or five fight contract to fight a bunch of hungry guys like Charlo when you could make more money with one fight against a guy who isn't going to do you any serious damage? I'd take the trilogy fight and sail off into the sunset.
I understand that money talks, but if GGG won a fight on PTS, who would be interested in a third fight when GGG beat him twice clearly?
The people buying this fight in the main are Mexican fans. They're the biggest chunk of PPV paying fans out there by a country mile. You've basically got hardcore boxing fans who buy PPVs, and you can see how many of those there are by looking at the shit Golovkin Jacobs PPV numbers, and Mexicans/Mexican-Americans. That's why this fight is happening on Mexican Independence day. It's why the last one was on Cinco De Mayo. That's why Floyd only ever fought on those dates for almost all his PPV career. Hispanics get together and all chip a few dollars in and have a PPV party on their celebration days and everybody makes money.
So if Alvarez loses then it's an easy sell. Alvarez fans want to see if he can get revenge. Hardcore fans buy it anyway because it's a big event and if a few of them don't it doesn't affect total sale very much.
Well lets hope for an emphatic and decisive Golovkin win then. :)
One judge gave Alvarez every round last time. Vegas judges get their paydays from the State Athletic Commission who pick judges they know will judge fights the way they want them judged. So really this is up to Vegas and the various powerbrokers who decide these things. What they want is Alvarez headlining May/September events for years to come because there's literally nobody else around on the horizon who could do the job. Maybe they think Alvarez could actually be burnished by a loss and then a win in the trilogy fight and can then go on to sell more big events. Maybe they think Golovkin is on the slide and Alvarez will make the third fight competitive enough that they can give him the win.
Or maybe they just think fuck it, if Alvarez is on his feet at the end of the twelfth he gets the decision. It's all down to a bunch of cold calculations about money and future revenue streams, nothing to do with who is the better fighter.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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Kirkland Laing
One judge gave Alvarez every round last time. Vegas judges get their paydays from the State Athletic Commission who pick judges they know will judge fights the way they want them judged. So really this is up to Vegas and the various powerbrokers who decide these things. What they want is Alvarez headlining May/September events for years to come because there's literally nobody else around on the horizon who could do the job. Maybe they think Alvarez could actually be burnished by a loss and then a win in the trilogy fight and can then go on to sell more big events. Maybe they think Golovkin is on the slide and Alvarez will make the third fight competitive enough that they can give him the win.
Or maybe they just think fuck it, if Alvarez is on his feet at the end of the twelfth he gets the decision. It's all down to a bunch of cold calculations about money and future revenue streams, nothing to do with who is the better fighter.
Awesome :thumb:
Way to win everyone over with a 'it doesn't much matter who is winning the fight the judges won't allow Canelo to be shutout' :rolleyes:
Canelo might be Golden Boy's Golden Child, but he's not getting any younger, he's not getting any bigger (unless of course that Mexican beef diet kicks in again), and he's not getting any better. He's hit his peak value it's been downhill since Floyd beat and beat him EASILY.
GGG is no longer at the peak of his powers but he's not going to lose to Canelo and if he did he wouldn't have any big money fights left although Floyd might go for him then and only then.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
Let's not be that cynical about boxing. Manny Pacquiao lost to Bradley when he was the house fighter and did not deserve the decision so it is not all based on money.
I think it will work the other way and the judges will side with Golovkin.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
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Let's not be that cynical about boxing. Manny Pacquiao lost to Bradley when he was the house fighter and did not deserve the decision so it is not all based on money.
I think it will work the other way and the judges will side with Golovkin.
I kind of feel that same way. I don’t see them robbing GGG twice. I think it will be a fair decision this time.
Re: Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch
I'm hoping for a KO either way but see both guys making it to the end.
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I'm hoping for a KO either way but see both guys making it to the end.
Really want to see Canelo get his lights turned out.
