Network Bidding War For Golovkin Set To Take Place After Canelo Rematch

[Master]

Tom Loeffler has done a great job for Golovkin, if HBO don't resign him they really must be giving boxing the boot.

Not sure why you guys care so much about how many millions a millionaire will make in future, but whoever Golovkin fights he wont make as much as he has with Canelo, who's worth more than all the other middleweights put together.

Exactly. Golovkin's best hope after Saturday night is that another fight with Alvarez is a viable fight that people want to see and Alvarez wants to make. Ideally a close points win for Golovkin in a fight that is exciting enough that people want to see it again. Golovkin has had a lot of hard fights, he's been making 160 for over half his life and he's at the tail end of a long career.

He made more money from the first Alvarez fight than he had in his entire previous career and this one will set him up nicely. After Saturday night he's either looking at tens of millions for a third Alvarez fight or two or three million per fight for fighting guys like Charlo.

Seriously, in his position, how many of you would fancy signing a four or five fight contract to fight a bunch of hungry guys like Charlo when you could make more money with one fight against a guy who isn't going to do you any serious damage? I'd take the trilogy fight and sail off into the sunset.

I understand that money talks, but if GGG won a fight on PTS, who would be interested in a third fight when GGG beat him twice clearly?

The people buying this fight in the main are Mexican fans. They're the biggest chunk of PPV paying fans out there by a country mile. You've basically got hardcore boxing fans who buy PPVs, and you can see how many of those there are by looking at the shit Golovkin Jacobs PPV numbers, and Mexicans/Mexican-Americans. That's why this fight is happening on Mexican Independence day. It's why the last one was on Cinco De Mayo. That's why Floyd only ever fought on those dates for almost all his PPV career. Hispanics get together and all chip a few dollars in and have a PPV party on their celebration days and everybody makes money.

So if Alvarez loses then it's an easy sell. Alvarez fans want to see if he can get revenge. Hardcore fans buy it anyway because it's a big event and if a few of them don't it doesn't affect total sale very much.

Well lets hope for an emphatic and decisive Golovkin win then.

[Kirkland Laing]

Tom Loeffler has done a great job for Golovkin, if HBO don't resign him they really must be giving boxing the boot.

Not sure why you guys care so much about how many millions a millionaire will make in future, but whoever Golovkin fights he wont make as much as he has with Canelo, who's worth more than all the other middleweights put together.

Exactly. Golovkin's best hope after Saturday night is that another fight with Alvarez is a viable fight that people want to see and Alvarez wants to make. Ideally a close points win for Golovkin in a fight that is exciting enough that people want to see it again. Golovkin has had a lot of hard fights, he's been making 160 for over half his life and he's at the tail end of a long career.

He made more money from the first Alvarez fight than he had in his entire previous career and this one will set him up nicely. After Saturday night he's either looking at tens of millions for a third Alvarez fight or two or three million per fight for fighting guys like Charlo.

Seriously, in his position, how many of you would fancy signing a four or five fight contract to fight a bunch of hungry guys like Charlo when you could make more money with one fight against a guy who isn't going to do you any serious damage? I'd take the trilogy fight and sail off into the sunset.

I understand that money talks, but if GGG won a fight on PTS, who would be interested in a third fight when GGG beat him twice clearly?

The people buying this fight in the main are Mexican fans. They're the biggest chunk of PPV paying fans out there by a country mile. You've basically got hardcore boxing fans who buy PPVs, and you can see how many of those there are by looking at the shit Golovkin Jacobs PPV numbers, and Mexicans/Mexican-Americans. That's why this fight is happening on Mexican Independence day. It's why the last one was on Cinco De Mayo. That's why Floyd only ever fought on those dates for almost all his PPV career. Hispanics get together and all chip a few dollars in and have a PPV party on their celebration days and everybody makes money.

So if Alvarez loses then it's an easy sell. Alvarez fans want to see if he can get revenge. Hardcore fans buy it anyway because it's a big event and if a few of them don't it doesn't affect total sale very much.

Well lets hope for an emphatic and decisive Golovkin win then.

One judge gave Alvarez every round last time. Vegas judges get their paydays from the State Athletic Commission who pick judges they know will judge fights the way they want them judged. So really this is up to Vegas and the various powerbrokers who decide these things. What they want is Alvarez headlining May/September events for years to come because there's literally nobody else around on the horizon who could do the job. Maybe they think Alvarez could actually be burnished by a loss and then a win in the trilogy fight and can then go on to sell more big events. Maybe they think Golovkin is on the slide and Alvarez will make the third fight competitive enough that they can give him the win.

Or maybe they just think fuck it, if Alvarez is on his feet at the end of the twelfth he gets the decision. It's all down to a bunch of cold calculations about money and future revenue streams, nothing to do with who is the better fighter.

[El Kabong]

One judge gave Alvarez every round last time. Vegas judges get their paydays from the State Athletic Commission who pick judges they know will judge fights the way they want them judged. So really this is up to Vegas and the various powerbrokers who decide these things. What they want is Alvarez headlining May/September events for years to come because there's literally nobody else around on the horizon who could do the job. Maybe they think Alvarez could actually be burnished by a loss and then a win in the trilogy fight and can then go on to sell more big events. Maybe they think Golovkin is on the slide and Alvarez will make the third fight competitive enough that they can give him the win.

Or maybe they just think fuck it, if Alvarez is on his feet at the end of the twelfth he gets the decision. It's all down to a bunch of cold calculations about money and future revenue streams, nothing to do with who is the better fighter.

Awesome


Way to win everyone over with a 'it doesn't much matter who is winning the fight the judges won't allow Canelo to be shutout'


Canelo might be Golden Boy's Golden Child, but he's not getting any younger, he's not getting any bigger (unless of course that Mexican beef diet kicks in again), and he's not getting any better. He's hit his peak value it's been downhill since Floyd beat and beat him EASILY.


GGG is no longer at the peak of his powers but he's not going to lose to Canelo and if he did he wouldn't have any big money fights left although Floyd might go for him then and only then.

[Kirkland Laing]

One judge gave Alvarez every round last time. Vegas judges get their paydays from the State Athletic Commission who pick judges they know will judge fights the way they want them judged. So really this is up to Vegas and the various powerbrokers who decide these things. What they want is Alvarez headlining May/September events for years to come because there's literally nobody else around on the horizon who could do the job. Maybe they think Alvarez could actually be burnished by a loss and then a win in the trilogy fight and can then go on to sell more big events. Maybe they think Golovkin is on the slide and Alvarez will make the third fight competitive enough that they can give him the win.

Or maybe they just think fuck it, if Alvarez is on his feet at the end of the twelfth he gets the decision. It's all down to a bunch of cold calculations about money and future revenue streams, nothing to do with who is the better fighter.

Awesome


Way to win everyone over with a 'it doesn't much matter who is winning the fight the judges won't allow Canelo to be shutout'


Canelo might be Golden Boy's Golden Child, but he's not getting any younger, he's not getting any bigger (unless of course that Mexican beef diet kicks in again), and he's not getting any better. He's hit his peak value it's been downhill since Floyd beat and beat him EASILY.


GGG is no longer at the peak of his powers but he's not going to lose to Canelo and if he did he wouldn't have any big money fights left although Floyd might go for him then and only then.

AC/DC lost their singer, their drummer, Malcolm Young died and the bass player retired but if Angus decides he wants to play again promoters will be banging his door down with lorryloads of cash to sign him and four scrubs up for a stadium tour. It doesn't matter what kind of state the band is in, people still want to see them.

Professional boxing is just another part of showbusiness like AC/DC or Beyonce or monster trucks, whatever you can sell tickets and hotel rooms and food and drink and so on to get people to come and see. It doesn't matter how good Alvarez is, his boxing ability or whether he's already past his best have nothing to do with it. As long as Alvarez is doing the numbers he's going to be the house fighter in Vegas. If somebody more bums on seats/PPVable comes along at 160 then that guy would be the house fighter and get the dodgy decision over the ginger. As long as Alvarez remains a viable attraction they're going to nurse him along. The Vegas casino owners aren't boxing fans, they're money fans. Anybody who can sell out an event they put on is going to get all the help they can give them.

[TitoFan]

So all arguments here are on the same side.

Everyone agrees that Ginger IS the cash cow of choice these days... and has been for awhile. Whether he wins or loses..... whether he cheats or doesn't..... it doesn't matter WHAT Ginger does, his status as cash cow is untouchable. There's another thread on this, I think. But it should hardly be a surprise to anyone. Ginger was groomed for this since Day One. Beginning with the fattened record (not on Clenbuterol, but on tomato cans in Mexico). As he was dispatching bartenders and cab drivers, the fan adoration was beginning. He's got the red-headed, boyish good looks, so why not. Captain Fishnets identified with him, having been a matinee idol type himself. And so began the relationship, with none other than JCC himself once criticizing Ginger as a fabricated phenomenon. Since he was coming up I called it..... saying he was born with a silver spoon. Once he got to 40+ fights of course the pressure began for him to face credible opposition, till he was finally gifted a fight against Floyd. We all know how that played out..... a boring shutout. Besides that, he preyed on undersized and/or old fighters..... and here we are today. Ginger can do no wrong, and his fanatical throngs of fans will follow him wherever he goes.... sort of like the boxing version of Elvis. Elvis became fat and drugged out... and he still had his loyal fans. But at least Elvis was real at one time. That would be the difference right there. Yeah..... Vegas LOVES Ginger. They'll miss him when he's gone. Then they'll do what they always do..... find another cash cow to take his place.

[Master]

Let's not be that cynical about boxing. Manny Pacquiao lost to Bradley when he was the house fighter and did not deserve the decision so it is not all based on money.

I think it will work the other way and the judges will side with Golovkin.

[powerpuncher]

Let's not be that cynical about boxing. Manny Pacquiao lost to Bradley when he was the house fighter and did not deserve the decision so it is not all based on money.

I think it will work the other way and the judges will side with Golovkin.

I kind of feel that same way. I don’t see them robbing GGG twice. I think it will be a fair decision this time.

[Alpha]

I'm hoping for a KO either way but see both guys making it to the end.

[El Kabong]

I'm hoping for a KO either way but see both guys making it to the end.

Really want to see Canelo get his lights turned out.

[TitoFan]

I'm hoping for a KO either way but see both guys making it to the end.

Really want to see Canelo get his lights turned out.

Ditto.