That is to tough a first fight for Usyk at heavyweight. Give him time to get use to the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
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That is to tough a first fight for Usyk at heavyweight. Give him time to get use to the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I don't think Povetkin would take the Usyk fight in his first bout back after AJ, but if he is fighting in the UK, there is the potential he could sign with DAZN and Hearn in a co-promotion type deal. That could lead to Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is to tough a first fight for Usyk at heavyweight. Give him time to get use to the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
You could argue that Usyk is already a top 10 heavy.
As soon as he moves up, he enters the ratings.
True but Bellew to Povetkin is a big jump. I am thinking someone like Dave Allen. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI don't think Povetkin would take the Usyk fight in his first bout back after AJ, but if he is fighting in the UK, there is the potential he could sign with DAZN and Hearn in a co-promotion type deal. That could lead to Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is to tough a first fight for Usyk at heavyweight. Give him time to get use to the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
You could argue that Usyk is already a top 10 heavy.
As soon as he moves up, he enters the ratings.
Oh f-ck me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTrue but Bellew to Povetkin is a big jump. I am thinking someone like Dave Allen. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI don't think Povetkin would take the Usyk fight in his first bout back after AJ, but if he is fighting in the UK, there is the potential he could sign with DAZN and Hearn in a co-promotion type deal. That could lead to Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is to tough a first fight for Usyk at heavyweight. Give him time to get use to the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
You could argue that Usyk is already a top 10 heavy.
As soon as he moves up, he enters the ratings.
Usyk will dominate at heavyweight.
That is a big call considering he will be a small heavyweight against these super heavyweights like AJ, Wilder and Fury. I am not so confident.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaOh f-ck me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTrue but Bellew to Povetkin is a big jump. I am thinking someone like Dave Allen. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI don't think Povetkin would take the Usyk fight in his first bout back after AJ, but if he is fighting in the UK, there is the potential he could sign with DAZN and Hearn in a co-promotion type deal. That could lead to Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is to tough a first fight for Usyk at heavyweight. Give him time to get use to the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
You could argue that Usyk is already a top 10 heavy.
As soon as he moves up, he enters the ratings.
Usyk will dominate at heavyweight.
Mark it down, save the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is a big call considering he will be a small heavyweight against these super heavyweights like AJ, Wilder and Fury. I am not so confident.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaOh f-ck me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTrue but Bellew to Povetkin is a big jump. I am thinking someone like Dave Allen. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI don't think Povetkin would take the Usyk fight in his first bout back after AJ, but if he is fighting in the UK, there is the potential he could sign with DAZN and Hearn in a co-promotion type deal. That could lead to Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is to tough a first fight for Usyk at heavyweight. Give him time to get use to the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
You could argue that Usyk is already a top 10 heavy.
As soon as he moves up, he enters the ratings.
Usyk will dominate at heavyweight.
Usyk has already beat guys like Mihai Nistor (who owned AJ) in what was basically a pro fight at heavy.
Usyk is a great talent, but seems to rely a little too much oh physicality to beat the top few hws around,for me. These are much bigger men.
I hope you are right but I will be the first to let you know how wrong you have been when he loses. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaMark it down, save the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is a big call considering he will be a small heavyweight against these super heavyweights like AJ, Wilder and Fury. I am not so confident.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaOh f-ck me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTrue but Bellew to Povetkin is a big jump. I am thinking someone like Dave Allen. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI don't think Povetkin would take the Usyk fight in his first bout back after AJ, but if he is fighting in the UK, there is the potential he could sign with DAZN and Hearn in a co-promotion type deal. That could lead to Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is to tough a first fight for Usyk at heavyweight. Give him time to get use to the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
You could argue that Usyk is already a top 10 heavy.
As soon as he moves up, he enters the ratings.
Usyk will dominate at heavyweight.
Usyk has already beat guys like Mihai Nistor (who owned AJ) in what was basically a pro fight at heavy.
I'm sure you will, but if he dares to be great and takes the big fights at heavy that's all I can ask of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterI hope you are right but I will be the first to let you know how wrong you have been when he loses. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaMark it down, save the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is a big call considering he will be a small heavyweight against these super heavyweights like AJ, Wilder and Fury. I am not so confident.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaOh f-ck me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterTrue but Bellew to Povetkin is a big jump. I am thinking someone like Dave Allen. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI don't think Povetkin would take the Usyk fight in his first bout back after AJ, but if he is fighting in the UK, there is the potential he could sign with DAZN and Hearn in a co-promotion type deal. That could lead to Usyk.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThat is to tough a first fight for Usyk at heavyweight. Give him time to get use to the weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
You could argue that Usyk is already a top 10 heavy.
As soon as he moves up, he enters the ratings.
Usyk will dominate at heavyweight.
Usyk has already beat guys like Mihai Nistor (who owned AJ) in what was basically a pro fight at heavy.
ThAts just a way of sneaking around being wrong:p
I've been wrong to many times in this sport to worry about that, anyone who says they haven't is lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
For anyone really interested to see what Usyk can do at heavyweight, I'd suggest watching his World Series of boxing fights.
Usyk is a top class ameteur and professional boxer who is skilled, southpaw and has speed to carry up at heavyweight and make them dizzy. He will have to win on points against the very best. I can not see him do that against them. He will get caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI've been wrong to many times in this sport to worry about that, anyone who says they haven't is lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
For anyone really interested to see what Usyk can do at heavyweight, I'd suggest watching his World Series of boxing fights.
But what are you basing that on? You seem pretty high on AJ, and I already pointed out that Usyk dealt with a guy who stopped AJ. He dealt with Huck (all be it, a more past it Huck) who should have got the nod over Povetkin, he dealt with Hunter, who exposed Ilunga, he dealt with Glowacki, who defeated Cunningham, who had some success at heavy. And I'm just touching the surface here.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterUsyk is a top class ameteur and professional boxer who is skilled, southpaw and has speed to carry up at heavyweight and make them dizzy. He will have to win on points against the very best. I can not see him do that against them. He will get caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI've been wrong to many times in this sport to worry about that, anyone who says they haven't is lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
For anyone really interested to see what Usyk can do at heavyweight, I'd suggest watching his World Series of boxing fights.
I was only joking, but I have watched them all I believe. Unless I’m wrong, he hasn’t been in with anyone to compete at hw before? I think usyk would do well in general at hw and beat a lot of contenders, and that he’s technically better,naturally, just that the top few guys are so much bigger it would be a different world.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI've been wrong to many times in this sport to worry about that, anyone who says they haven't is lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
For anyone really interested to see what Usyk can do at heavyweight, I'd suggest watching his World Series of boxing fights.
All good I know, not sure what you mean by the highlighted part. Those fights were all at heavyweight and basically pro fights. Junior Fa is an unbeaten heavy prospect at the moment, Joyce is also, plus the guys I mentioned previously to Master that have had some success over former heavies.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingI was only joking, but I have watched them all I believe. Unless I’m wrong, he hasn’t been in with anyone to compete at hw before? I think usyk would do well in general at hw and beat a lot of contenders, and that he’s technically better,naturally, just that the top few guys are so much bigger it would be a different world.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaI've been wrong to many times in this sport to worry about that, anyone who says they haven't is lying.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
For anyone really interested to see what Usyk can do at heavyweight, I'd suggest watching his World Series of boxing fights.