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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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Bx730NY
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ono
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Fenster
Ive never seen ANYONE on this site claim Witter is "great."
The American fans along with all other boxing fans (excluding blinkered Hatton lovers, of course) WANT the fight because Hatton and Witter are rated no.1 and 2 at 140. Naturally ALL boxing fans should want the best per divison to face eachother. So why would it be surprising so many prefer to see this match-up than Hatton fighting an exhibition match?
The Brit fans that KNOW the history between these two are sick and frustrated with Hatton's million and 1 excuses to dodge Witter. Simple as.
This fight will happen in 2009, will it? What like it was gonna happen in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008?
And you can't believe the naivety of some?
:rolleyes:
Good answer
So why hasn't Witter made an offer?
Make an offer? He offered to fight him at no cost so what's the problem?
No one is saying they're in love with Witter but you are clearly in love with Hatton.
Keep supporting him because with every excuse he makes, he puts you in position to make 10 more.
Am not in love with either fighter thank you. However i do like both fighters.
And that isn't making an offer. That's talking smack. If he was serious, Mick Hennessy would have made a formal offer....just like he did when Thaxton was calling out Kahn.
He's had 7 years to make an offer.....yet he hasn't. The more famous Hatton has become, the louder Junior Witter has become. Still hasn't made any formal offers. Not even during the times when Hatton said he'd fight him have they made an offer.
If the time comes when Junior does make a formal offer and it is rejected by Hatton, then i'll be critical.....but until then imo it's unfair to accuse Hatton of ducking because he isn't really ducking from anything.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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Shamrock
Ricky's latest reason/excuse.... He said he was finnaly thinking about fighting Witter and then something happened at the Sports Personality Awards. He said that a few fighters were lined up and Hatton went along the line shaking hands with them and when he got to Witter apparently Witter said 'Some day...' Hatton now says that that has made him determined not to fight him.
Hatton is really starting to hack me off... he's getting himself a reputation as a bullshitter and people now genuinley think he is ducking Witter. If Hatton is so annoyed at Witter and so confident he can beat him he would fight him... period. There would be none of this crap about not wanting to give Witter a big pay day or Witter not being known well enough accross the Pond.
Put up or shut up Ricky because this crap is losing you respect and fans in equal measures.
Signed
A dissapointed almost X-Hatton Fan :(
Memphis - just read your post further up... seems like we both feel the same... didn't want you to think I was stealing your post though mate ;D
That was in 2006 by the way. Not last year like The Sun have made it out to be.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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ono
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Bx730NY
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ono
Good answer
So why hasn't Witter made an offer?
Make an offer? He offered to fight him at no cost so what's the problem?
No one is saying they're in love with Witter but you are clearly in love with Hatton.
Keep supporting him because with every excuse he makes, he puts you in position to make 10 more.
Am not in love with either fighter thank you. However i do like both fighters.
And that isn't making an offer. That's talking smack. If he was serious, Mick Hennessy would have made a formal offer....just like he did when Thaxton was calling out Kahn.
He's had 7 years to make an offer.....yet he hasn't. The more famous Hatton has become, the louder Junior Witter has become. Still hasn't made any formal offers. Not even during the times when Hatton said he'd fight him have they made an offer.
If the time comes when Junior does make a formal offer and it is rejected by Hatton, then i'll be critical.....but until then imo it's unfair to accuse Hatton of ducking because he isn't really ducking from anything.
How can he make an offer when hatton doesn't even have the balls to come to the table.
I wanna know how you're so sure an offer hasn't been made anyway. Stop making excuses for hatton already. This is blatant ducking. And BTW, you're clearly a hatton fan so I don't wanna hear it.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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Bx730NY
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Originally Posted by
ono
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Bx730NY
Make an offer? He offered to fight him at no cost so what's the problem?
No one is saying they're in love with Witter but you are clearly in love with Hatton.
Keep supporting him because with every excuse he makes, he puts you in position to make 10 more.
Am not in love with either fighter thank you. However i do like both fighters.
And that isn't making an offer. That's talking smack. If he was serious, Mick Hennessy would have made a formal offer....just like he did when Thaxton was calling out Kahn.
He's had 7 years to make an offer.....yet he hasn't. The more famous Hatton has become, the louder Junior Witter has become. Still hasn't made any formal offers. Not even during the times when Hatton said he'd fight him have they made an offer.
If the time comes when Junior does make a formal offer and it is rejected by Hatton, then i'll be critical.....but until then imo it's unfair to accuse Hatton of ducking because he isn't really ducking from anything.
How can he make an offer when hatton doesn't even have the balls to come to the table.
I wanna know how you're so sure an offer hasn't been made anyway. Stop making excuses for hatton already. This is blatant ducking. And BTW, you're clearly a hatton fan so I don't wanna hear it.
Gareth Williams quote "Mick Hennesy or Junior Witter have never made an offer"
Guess you don't know how matchmaking works in Boxing then.
Simple. Mick Hennesey faxes an offer to team Hatton. Team Hattom mull over the offer and decided wether or not to accept it at least negotiate.
They don't actually have to sit round a table, so Hatton's balls have nothing to do with Witter making an offer or not.
How can it be an excuse when it's the truth?
I just want to open up peoples eyes to the suggestion that Junior Witter could be stitching a lot of people up. You included...
In fact i think both fighters and the media are doing a wonderful job in manipulating the public.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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ono
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Bx730NY
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ono
Am not in love with either fighter thank you. However i do like both fighters.
And that isn't making an offer. That's talking smack. If he was serious, Mick Hennessy would have made a formal offer....just like he did when Thaxton was calling out Kahn.
He's had 7 years to make an offer.....yet he hasn't. The more famous Hatton has become, the louder Junior Witter has become. Still hasn't made any formal offers. Not even during the times when Hatton said he'd fight him have they made an offer.
If the time comes when Junior does make a formal offer and it is rejected by Hatton, then i'll be critical.....but until then imo it's unfair to accuse Hatton of ducking because he isn't really ducking from anything.
How can he make an offer when hatton doesn't even have the balls to come to the table.
I wanna know how you're so sure an offer hasn't been made anyway. Stop making excuses for hatton already. This is blatant ducking. And BTW, you're clearly a hatton fan so I don't wanna hear it.
Gareth Williams quote "Mick Hennesy or Junior Witter have never made an offer"
Guess you don't know how matchmaking works in Boxing then.
Simple. Mick Hennesey faxes an offer to team Hatton. Team Hattom mull over the offer and decided wether or not to accept it at least negotiate.
They don't actually have to sit round a table, so Hatton's balls have nothing to do with Witter making an offer or not.
How can it be an excuse when it's the truth?
I just want to open up peoples eyes to the suggestion that Junior Witter could be stitching a lot of people up. You included...
In fact i think both fighters and the media are doing a wonderful job in manipulating the public.
More like hatton is doing a good job manipulating you.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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amat
You think Ricky is ducking Witter Saddo?
in a way yes but not because he is scared because i know he isnt....he just dosnt like him and he knows he can sell out anywhere fighting any bum he wants thus making money off his name now.... that is great for him but not soo good for his loyal fans who have to defend him and it stinks ;)
Ricky should fight Witter he deserves his shot and the fans deserve the fight.
before the mayweather fight i wanted to see Ricky fight one of 3 guys...
Witter
Cotto
Maywether
he was close to signing a fight with DLH this time last year when mayweather was messing him about but Mayweather jumped in took the fight with DLH it was due to be announced... so there is alot of stuff going on behind the sences that dont get announced.
when the Mayweather fight was announced i was made up and gave Ricky a great chance of beating mayweather... alas it wasnt to be and ricky was found wanting NO SHAME IN THAT ;)
so now i dont really want Hatton to fight Cotto as i belive Cotto would knock him out as he hits alot harder than Mayweather so that leaves Witter.
lets face facts Ricky aint got that long left and promised his mum he will be jacking in after this year ((before his loss)) so wasting his last fights with the likes of Lazcano if a shame for him and his loyal Fans and it just seems more safe and money drawn than leaving a legacy IMO
bottom line i want to see him in with Witter as i also like Witter and belive he has earnt his shot ;)
as for the no offer from Witter that holds no weight with me at all because Hatton chooses his fights and he along calls the shots...not witter ;)
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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Bx730NY
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ono
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Bx730NY
How can he make an offer when hatton doesn't even have the balls to come to the table.
I wanna know how you're so sure an offer hasn't been made anyway. Stop making excuses for hatton already. This is blatant ducking. And BTW, you're clearly a hatton fan so I don't wanna hear it.
Gareth Williams quote "Mick Hennesy or Junior Witter have never made an offer"
Guess you don't know how matchmaking works in Boxing then.
Simple. Mick Hennesey faxes an offer to team Hatton. Team Hattom mull over the offer and decided wether or not to accept it at least negotiate.
They don't actually have to sit round a table, so Hatton's balls have nothing to do with Witter making an offer or not.
How can it be an excuse when it's the truth?
I just want to open up peoples eyes to the suggestion that Junior Witter could be stitching a lot of people up. You included...
In fact i think both fighters and the media are doing a wonderful job in manipulating the public.
More like hatton is doing a good job manipulating you.
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Not very good at this are you?
Just presented you with a fact and the best you come back with is 'you're obviously a Hatton fan'
:rolleyes:
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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amat
You think Ricky is ducking Witter Saddo?
in a way yes but not because he is scared because i know he isnt....he just dosnt like him and he knows he can sell out anywhere fighting any bum he wants thus making money off his name now.... that is great for him but not soo good for his loyal fans who have to defend him and it stinks ;)
Ricky should fight Witter he deserves his shot and the fans deserve the fight.
before the mayweather fight i wanted to see Ricky fight one of 3 guys...
Witter
Cotto
Maywether
he was close to signing a fight with DLH this time last year when mayweather was messing him about but Mayweather jumped in took the fight with DLH it was due to be announced... so there is alot of stuff going on behind the sences that dont get announced.
when the Mayweather fight was announced i was made up and gave Ricky a great chance of beating mayweather... alas it wasnt to be and ricky was found wanting NO SHAME IN THAT ;)
so now i dont really want Hatton to fight Cotto as i belive Cotto would knock him out as he hits alot harder than Mayweather so that leaves Witter.
lets face facts Ricky aint got that long left and promised his mum he will be jacking in after this year ((before his loss)) so wasting his last fights with the likes of Lazcano if a shame for him and his loyal Fans and it just seems more safe and money drawn than leaving a legacy IMO
bottom line i want to see him in with Witter as i also like Witter and belive he has earnt his shot ;)
as for the no offer from Witter that holds no weight with me at all because Hatton chooses his fights and he along calls the shots...not witter ;)
I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....
But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?
Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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ono
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amat
You think Ricky is ducking Witter Saddo?
in a way yes but not because he is scared because i know he isnt....he just dosnt like him and he knows he can sell out anywhere fighting any bum he wants thus making money off his name now.... that is great for him but not soo good for his loyal fans who have to defend him and it stinks ;)
Ricky should fight Witter he deserves his shot and the fans deserve the fight.
before the mayweather fight i wanted to see Ricky fight one of 3 guys...
Witter
Cotto
Maywether
he was close to signing a fight with DLH this time last year when mayweather was messing him about but Mayweather jumped in took the fight with DLH it was due to be announced... so there is alot of stuff going on behind the sences that dont get announced.
when the Mayweather fight was announced i was made up and gave Ricky a great chance of beating mayweather... alas it wasnt to be and ricky was found wanting NO SHAME IN THAT ;)
so now i dont really want Hatton to fight Cotto as i belive Cotto would knock him out as he hits alot harder than Mayweather so that leaves Witter.
lets face facts Ricky aint got that long left and promised his mum he will be jacking in after this year ((before his loss)) so wasting his last fights with the likes of Lazcano if a shame for him and his loyal Fans and it just seems more safe and money drawn than leaving a legacy IMO
bottom line i want to see him in with Witter as i also like Witter and belive he has earnt his shot ;)
as for the no offer from Witter that holds no weight with me at all because Hatton chooses his fights and he along calls the shots...not witter ;)
I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....
But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?
Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...
quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....
after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
Floyd Maywether
with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm ;)
i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching :rolleyes:
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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Saddo
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ono
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Saddo
in a way yes but not because he is scared because i know he isnt....he just dosnt like him and he knows he can sell out anywhere fighting any bum he wants thus making money off his name now.... that is great for him but not soo good for his loyal fans who have to defend him and it stinks ;)
Ricky should fight Witter he deserves his shot and the fans deserve the fight.
before the mayweather fight i wanted to see Ricky fight one of 3 guys...
Witter
Cotto
Maywether
he was close to signing a fight with DLH this time last year when mayweather was messing him about but Mayweather jumped in took the fight with DLH it was due to be announced... so there is alot of stuff going on behind the sences that dont get announced.
when the Mayweather fight was announced i was made up and gave Ricky a great chance of beating mayweather... alas it wasnt to be and ricky was found wanting NO SHAME IN THAT ;)
so now i dont really want Hatton to fight Cotto as i belive Cotto would knock him out as he hits alot harder than Mayweather so that leaves Witter.
lets face facts Ricky aint got that long left and promised his mum he will be jacking in after this year ((before his loss)) so wasting his last fights with the likes of Lazcano if a shame for him and his loyal Fans and it just seems more safe and money drawn than leaving a legacy IMO
bottom line i want to see him in with Witter as i also like Witter and belive he has earnt his shot ;)
as for the no offer from Witter that holds no weight with me at all because Hatton chooses his fights and he along calls the shots...not witter ;)
I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....
But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?
Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...
quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....
after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
Floyd Maywether
with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm
;)
i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching :rolleyes:
You really believe that's what happened?
You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?
I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.
I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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ono
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Saddo
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ono
I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....
But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?
Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...
quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....
after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
Floyd Maywether
with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm
;)
i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching :rolleyes:
You really believe that's what happened?
You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?
I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.
I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.
I'm with you Ono, Hatton said himself he had a plan, 3 fights in the US and then Mayweather and thats what happned.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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ono
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Saddo
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ono
I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....
But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?
Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...
quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....
after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
Floyd Maywether
with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm
;)
i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching :rolleyes:
You really believe that's what happened?
You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?
I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.
I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.
as long as we agree he made the fight and not Ricky i aint bothered ;)
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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Saddo
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ono
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Saddo
quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....
after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
Floyd Maywether
with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm ;)
i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching :rolleyes:
You really believe that's what happened?
You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?
I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.
I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.
as long as we agree he made the fight and not Ricky i aint bothered ;)
Yup agree 100%
Ricky will do the same when he see's the £ signs....which is still probably about 12 months away
;)
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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ono
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Saddo
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ono
You really believe that's what happened?
You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?
I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.
I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.
as long as we agree he made the fight and not Ricky i aint bothered ;)
Yup agree 100%
Ricky will do the same when he see's the £ signs....which is still probably about 12 months away
;)
Wish i had your optomisim mate but i dont think this fight will ever happen now and there is no better time than the present IMO so if it aint happening now it will not be happening in the future... one of them will prob get beat withing the next 12 months and we'll be left arguing over Khans lack of challanges :(
just one question for you mate who would you like to see Ricky fight next Lazcano or Witter i dont need an answer its for your own mind ;)
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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Saddo
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ono
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Saddo
as long as we agree he made the fight and not Ricky i aint bothered ;)
Yup agree 100%
Ricky will do the same when he see's the £ signs....which is still probably about 12 months away
;)
Wish i had your optomisim mate but i dont think this fight will ever happen now and there is no better time than the present IMO so if it aint happening now it will not be happening in the future... one of them will prob get beat withing the next 12 months and we'll be left arguing over Khans lack of challanges :(
just one question for you mate who would you like to see Ricky fight next Lazcano or Witter i dont need an answer its for your own mind ;)
Witter. I'd absolutely love it.
IMO if Witter show's up, he could win.
Listen, my whole basis of argument isn't on the fact that the fight shouldn't happen (it absolutely should, no question)
My point is, there is a reason Witter hasn't made an offer yet and there's a reason why Hatton appears disinterested.
You'll see in 2009....
The fight will be a massive occassion......even bigger than it would be now with the way things are going.
Witter will get Hatton when his popularity is back at it's peak (if all goes according to plan he will beat Lazcano and Paulie...which he should)
Witter will then get his massive payday because he'll most likely still hold the WBC belt after fighting mandatories until next year
Hatton will get his opponent when he is 35 years old which seems to be the pattern he likes to follow.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
So is Hatton retiring soon then? Didn't know that.
Also, when did this Witter craze start? I've been on this board for a while but never have I seen more then a passing call for Hatton to fight Witter. Now a couple months after a fairly good showing of himself versus the best fighter in the world, the calls are almost overwhelming.
Witter may have earned his shot but this all just kind of came out of nowhere. At least it did to me.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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ono
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Bx730NY
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ono
Am not in love with either fighter thank you. However i do like both fighters.
And that isn't making an offer. That's talking smack. If he was serious, Mick Hennessy would have made a formal offer....just like he did when Thaxton was calling out Kahn.
He's had 7 years to make an offer.....yet he hasn't. The more famous Hatton has become, the louder Junior Witter has become. Still hasn't made any formal offers. Not even during the times when Hatton said he'd fight him have they made an offer.
If the time comes when Junior does make a formal offer and it is rejected by Hatton, then i'll be critical.....but until then imo it's unfair to accuse Hatton of ducking because he isn't really ducking from anything.
How can he make an offer when hatton doesn't even have the balls to come to the table.
I wanna know how you're so sure an offer hasn't been made anyway. Stop making excuses for hatton already. This is blatant ducking. And BTW, you're clearly a hatton fan so I don't wanna hear it.
Gareth Williams quote "Mick Hennesy or Junior Witter have never made an offer"
Guess you don't know how matchmaking works in Boxing then.
Simple. Mick Hennesey faxes an offer to team Hatton. Team Hattom mull over the offer and decided wether or not to accept it at least negotiate.
They don't actually have to sit round a table, so Hatton's balls have nothing to do with Witter making an offer or not.
How can it be an excuse when it's the truth?
I just want to open up peoples eyes to the suggestion that Junior Witter could be stitching a lot of people up. You included...
In fact i think both fighters and the media are doing a wonderful job in manipulating the public.
That's not how matchmaking works at all. Witter isn't in a position to make an offer to Hatton because Hatton is the guy who calls the shots here. Hatton's people are the ones who make the offers.
"Not making an offer" is just legalese anyway. Both sides may have had discussions about whether a future fight is going to happen anf Hatton's people may have said something like "we'll let you know when we're ready." However you look at this Hatton is ducking Witter.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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Kirkland Laing
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ono
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Bx730NY
How can he make an offer when hatton doesn't even have the balls to come to the table.
I wanna know how you're so sure an offer hasn't been made anyway. Stop making excuses for hatton already. This is blatant ducking. And BTW, you're clearly a hatton fan so I don't wanna hear it.
Gareth Williams quote "Mick Hennesy or Junior Witter have never made an offer"
Guess you don't know how matchmaking works in Boxing then.
Simple. Mick Hennesey faxes an offer to team Hatton. Team Hattom mull over the offer and decided wether or not to accept it at least negotiate.
They don't actually have to sit round a table, so Hatton's balls have nothing to do with Witter making an offer or not.
How can it be an excuse when it's the truth?
I just want to open up peoples eyes to the suggestion that Junior Witter could be stitching a lot of people up. You included...
In fact i think both fighters and the media are doing a wonderful job in manipulating the public.
That's not how matchmaking works at all. Witter isn't in a position to make an offer to Hatton because Hatton is the guy who calls the shots here. Hatton's people are the ones who make the offers.
"Not making an offer" is just legalese anyway. Both sides may have had discussions about whether a future fight is going to happen anf Hatton's people may have said something like "we'll let you know when we're ready." However you look at this Hatton is ducking Witter.
Ok well i can't change you're opinion.
What are you willing to bet that as soon as Witter makes an offer, Hatton snaps his hand off? This fight will happen next year. 100% positively sure about it.
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Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?
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ono
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Saddo
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ono
Yup agree 100%
Ricky will do the same when he see's the £ signs....which is still probably about 12 months away
;)
Wish i had your optomisim mate but i dont think this fight will ever happen now and there is no better time than the present IMO so if it aint happening now it will not be happening in the future... one of them will prob get beat withing the next 12 months and we'll be left arguing over Khans lack of challanges :(
just one question for you mate who would you like to see Ricky fight next Lazcano or Witter i dont need an answer its for your own mind ;)
Witter. I'd absolutely love it.
IMO if Witter show's up, he could win.
Listen, my whole basis of argument isn't on the fact that the fight shouldn't happen (it absolutely should, no question)
My point is, there is a reason Witter hasn't made an offer yet and there's a reason why Hatton appears disinterested.
You'll see in 2009....
The fight will be a massive occassion......even bigger than it would be now with the way things are going.
Witter will get Hatton when his popularity is back at it's peak (if all goes according to plan he will beat Lazcano and Paulie...which he should)
Witter will then get his massive payday because he'll most likely still hold the WBC belt after fighting mandatories until next year
Hatton will get his opponent when he is 35 years old which seems to be the pattern he likes to follow.
mate i sead this a few days ago and if the fight was gonna happen why dont they just stick Witter vs Paulie on the undercard of hatton vs payday and then Ricky fights the winner simple to me if the fight was gonna happen also see reply below to hatton retireing.;)
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So is Hatton retiring soon then? Didn't know that.
Also, when did this Witter craze start? I've been on this board for a while but never have I seen more then a passing call for Hatton to fight Witter. Now a couple months after a fairly good showing of himself versus the best fighter in the world, the calls are almost overwhelming.
Witter may have earned his shot but this all just kind of came out of nowhere. At least it did to me.
yeah about 2 days before his loss to mayweather i read an article about Rickys mum saying he made a promise to herehe was retiring the end of this year but he lost that fight so i'm not sure if that promise still holds... but he is at the tale end of his career so Lazcano is a wasted fight to me.
i think we will see lazcano, paulie and if i maywether fight dont happen i think he might just keep his promise and leave on a win ((if he wins of course ;) ))
as for all the Witter Hatton threads mate its because Ricky has a loyal following and Witter calls him out nearly everyday just seems to be the topic of debate recently ;)
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Wish i had your optomisim mate but i dont think this fight will ever happen now and there is no better time than the present IMO so if it aint happening now it will not be happening in the future... one of them will prob get beat withing the next 12 months and we'll be left arguing over Khans lack of challanges :(
just one question for you mate who would you like to see Ricky fight next Lazcano or Witter i dont need an answer its for your own mind ;)
Witter. I'd absolutely love it.
IMO if Witter show's up, he could win.
Listen, my whole basis of argument isn't on the fact that the fight shouldn't happen (it absolutely should, no question)
My point is, there is a reason Witter hasn't made an offer yet and there's a reason why Hatton appears disinterested.
You'll see in 2009....
The fight will be a massive occassion......even bigger than it would be now with the way things are going.
Witter will get Hatton when his popularity is back at it's peak (if all goes according to plan he will beat Lazcano and Paulie...which he should)
Witter will then get his massive payday because he'll most likely still hold the WBC belt after fighting mandatories until next year
Hatton will get his opponent when he is 35 years old which seems to be the pattern he likes to follow.
mate i sead this a few days ago and if the fight was gonna happen why dont they just stick Witter vs Paulie on the undercard of hatton vs payday and then Ricky fights the winner simple to me if the fight was gonna happen also see reply below to hatton retireing.;)
It would seem logical but i believe Hatton figures he can make more money fighting Paulie and Junior, because with Paulie he gets to fight at the Garden.
The Witter fight will most likely be at Wembley.
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The Witter fight will most likely be at Wembley.
correct so why not now Witter's profile is high and to be honest i think Hattons is at an all time high.... his last fight in the UK was the the maussa fight and i heard they hade to gave tickets away as the numbers where low.. but this lazcano fight is almost a sellout.
so for me 12 months even if it did happen would be too late and i doubt it will anyways but Ricky is a millionaire now so surlly he should be looking for fights because they are fights but we both agree he is after money now...
although you think its a masterplan i dont ;)
anyhooo night mate and to be honest i hope your right and i'm wrong as it would be a shame if these guys never met not just for the fans i think Ricky would regret it in years to come ;)
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Gareth Williams quote "Mick Hennesy or Junior Witter have never made an offer"
Guess you don't know how matchmaking works in Boxing then.
Simple. Mick Hennesey faxes an offer to team Hatton. Team Hattom mull over the offer and decided wether or not to accept it at least negotiate.
They don't actually have to sit round a table, so Hatton's balls have nothing to do with Witter making an offer or not.
How can it be an excuse when it's the truth?
I just want to open up peoples eyes to the suggestion that Junior Witter could be stitching a lot of people up. You included...
In fact i think both fighters and the media are doing a wonderful job in manipulating the public.
That's not how matchmaking works at all. Witter isn't in a position to make an offer to Hatton because Hatton is the guy who calls the shots here. Hatton's people are the ones who make the offers.
"Not making an offer" is just legalese anyway. Both sides may have had discussions about whether a future fight is going to happen anf Hatton's people may have said something like "we'll let you know when we're ready." However you look at this Hatton is ducking Witter.
Ok well i can't change you're opinion.
What are you willing to bet that as soon as Witter makes an offer, Hatton snaps his hand off? This fight will happen next year. 100% positively sure about it.
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Witter isn't in a position to make an offer. Hatton can fill a stadium fighting a hasbeen or a neverwas, so there's now zero reason for him to fight Witter. He has everything to lose and nothing to gain so he won't do it.
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No we ain't either desperate or in need, and I for one am in no way a fan of Witter, he's over rated, even if only by himself lol, and not much more than a average plus fighter with a unusual style .... but we got a little unknown fighter here in Britain that's not too bad and also unbeaten, I find it comical that you should use Hatton as a analogy for us Brits .... when using a analogy, use the other Brit I'm talking about .... Joe Calzaghe ... he's not bad..then you will see why we ain't desperate when we got one of the p4p best on our lil old patch of land....
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I find it comical that you think i'm not British. ;D
To surprise you further, i'm also from Leeds. ;D
The point you're referring to was me making a point about how our press/media build fighters up. I was wondering if the same thing is likely to happen to Witter.
And I find it further comical that you assumed that I thought that you wasn't British .... it was a bit of a give away with ya flag bud...
But yeah point taken, forgive me, I was goosed when I wrote my reply, had my three young ones staying over...nice to see another Leeds lad on board, so no hard feelings, and as Kenny Everett used to say "It was all done in the best possible taste"
Re: your point about the Brit press and Witter, God, lets hope not eh...
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No we ain't either desperate or in need, and I for one am in no way a fan of Witter, he's over rated, even if only by himself lol, and not much more than a average plus fighter with a unusual style .... but we got a little unknown fighter here in Britain that's not too bad and also unbeaten, I find it comical that you should use Hatton as a analogy for us Brits .... when using a analogy, use the other Brit I'm talking about .... Joe Calzaghe ... he's not bad..then you will see why we ain't desperate when we got one of the p4p best on our lil old patch of land....
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I find it comical that you think i'm not British. ;D
To surprise you further, i'm also from Leeds. ;D
The point you're referring to was me making a point about how our press/media build fighters up. I was wondering if the same thing is likely to happen to Witter.
And I find it further comical that you assumed that I thought that you wasn't British .... it was a bit of a give away with ya flag bud...
But yeah point taken, forgive me, I was goosed when I wrote my reply, had my three young ones staying over...nice to see another Leeds lad on board, so no hard feelings, and as Kenny Everett used to say "It was all done in the best possible taste"
Re: your point about the Brit press and Witter, God, lets hope not eh...
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;D
Where abouts in Leeds are you?
I'm in Bramley.
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The Witter fight will most likely be at Wembley.
correct so why not now Witter's profile is high and to be honest i think Hattons is at an all time high.... his last fight in the UK was the the maussa fight and i heard they hade to gave tickets away as the numbers where low.. but this lazcano fight is almost a sellout.
so for me 12 months even if it did happen would be too late and i doubt it will anyways but Ricky is a millionaire now so surlly he should be looking for fights because they are fights but we both agree he is after money now...
although you think its a masterplan i dont ;)
anyhooo night mate and to be honest i hope your right and i'm wrong as it would be a shame if these guys never met not just for the fans i think Ricky would regret it in years to come ;)
Yeh i agree. If the fight doesn't happen, it will tarnish his legacy....while enhancing Witter's.
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I don't think everyone is in love with Junior Witter but I distinctly remember the hate towards him when I first joined last year.
I'm guessing that was just many of the Hatton-ites that have since gone quiet since Hatton's K.O loss in December :p
Hatton's charm is really growing thin. He needs to grow some balls and face the number 1 contender..Quit all of the bullshit excuses. just like Mayweather will need to do also after the Oscar fight.
