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    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    You think Ricky is ducking Witter Saddo?

    in a way yes but not because he is scared because i know he isnt....he just dosnt like him and he knows he can sell out anywhere fighting any bum he wants thus making money off his name now.... that is great for him but not soo good for his loyal fans who have to defend him and it stinks

    Ricky should fight Witter he deserves his shot and the fans deserve the fight.

    before the mayweather fight i wanted to see Ricky fight one of 3 guys...

    Witter
    Cotto
    Maywether

    he was close to signing a fight with DLH this time last year when mayweather was messing him about but Mayweather jumped in took the fight with DLH it was due to be announced... so there is alot of stuff going on behind the sences that dont get announced.

    when the Mayweather fight was announced i was made up and gave Ricky a great chance of beating mayweather... alas it wasnt to be and ricky was found wanting NO SHAME IN THAT

    so now i dont really want Hatton to fight Cotto as i belive Cotto would knock him out as he hits alot harder than Mayweather so that leaves Witter.

    lets face facts Ricky aint got that long left and promised his mum he will be jacking in after this year ((before his loss)) so wasting his last fights with the likes of Lazcano if a shame for him and his loyal Fans and it just seems more safe and money drawn than leaving a legacy IMO

    bottom line i want to see him in with Witter as i also like Witter and belive he has earnt his shot

    as for the no offer from Witter that holds no weight with me at all because Hatton chooses his fights and he along calls the shots...not witter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    How can he make an offer when hatton doesn't even have the balls to come to the table.

    I wanna know how you're so sure an offer hasn't been made anyway. Stop making excuses for hatton already. This is blatant ducking. And BTW, you're clearly a hatton fan so I don't wanna hear it.
    Gareth Williams quote "Mick Hennesy or Junior Witter have never made an offer"

    Guess you don't know how matchmaking works in Boxing then.

    Simple. Mick Hennesey faxes an offer to team Hatton. Team Hattom mull over the offer and decided wether or not to accept it at least negotiate.

    They don't actually have to sit round a table, so Hatton's balls have nothing to do with Witter making an offer or not.

    How can it be an excuse when it's the truth?

    I just want to open up peoples eyes to the suggestion that Junior Witter could be stitching a lot of people up. You included...

    In fact i think both fighters and the media are doing a wonderful job in manipulating the public.
    More like hatton is doing a good job manipulating you.


    Not very good at this are you?

    Just presented you with a fact and the best you come back with is 'you're obviously a Hatton fan'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    You think Ricky is ducking Witter Saddo?

    in a way yes but not because he is scared because i know he isnt....he just dosnt like him and he knows he can sell out anywhere fighting any bum he wants thus making money off his name now.... that is great for him but not soo good for his loyal fans who have to defend him and it stinks

    Ricky should fight Witter he deserves his shot and the fans deserve the fight.

    before the mayweather fight i wanted to see Ricky fight one of 3 guys...

    Witter
    Cotto
    Maywether

    he was close to signing a fight with DLH this time last year when mayweather was messing him about but Mayweather jumped in took the fight with DLH it was due to be announced... so there is alot of stuff going on behind the sences that dont get announced.

    when the Mayweather fight was announced i was made up and gave Ricky a great chance of beating mayweather... alas it wasnt to be and ricky was found wanting NO SHAME IN THAT

    so now i dont really want Hatton to fight Cotto as i belive Cotto would knock him out as he hits alot harder than Mayweather so that leaves Witter.

    lets face facts Ricky aint got that long left and promised his mum he will be jacking in after this year ((before his loss)) so wasting his last fights with the likes of Lazcano if a shame for him and his loyal Fans and it just seems more safe and money drawn than leaving a legacy IMO

    bottom line i want to see him in with Witter as i also like Witter and belive he has earnt his shot

    as for the no offer from Witter that holds no weight with me at all because Hatton chooses his fights and he along calls the shots...not witter
    I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....

    But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?

    Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    You think Ricky is ducking Witter Saddo?

    in a way yes but not because he is scared because i know he isnt....he just dosnt like him and he knows he can sell out anywhere fighting any bum he wants thus making money off his name now.... that is great for him but not soo good for his loyal fans who have to defend him and it stinks

    Ricky should fight Witter he deserves his shot and the fans deserve the fight.

    before the mayweather fight i wanted to see Ricky fight one of 3 guys...

    Witter
    Cotto
    Maywether

    he was close to signing a fight with DLH this time last year when mayweather was messing him about but Mayweather jumped in took the fight with DLH it was due to be announced... so there is alot of stuff going on behind the sences that dont get announced.

    when the Mayweather fight was announced i was made up and gave Ricky a great chance of beating mayweather... alas it wasnt to be and ricky was found wanting NO SHAME IN THAT

    so now i dont really want Hatton to fight Cotto as i belive Cotto would knock him out as he hits alot harder than Mayweather so that leaves Witter.

    lets face facts Ricky aint got that long left and promised his mum he will be jacking in after this year ((before his loss)) so wasting his last fights with the likes of Lazcano if a shame for him and his loyal Fans and it just seems more safe and money drawn than leaving a legacy IMO

    bottom line i want to see him in with Witter as i also like Witter and belive he has earnt his shot

    as for the no offer from Witter that holds no weight with me at all because Hatton chooses his fights and he along calls the shots...not witter
    I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....

    But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?

    Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...
    quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....

    after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
    Floyd Maywether

    with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm

    i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching

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    Default Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?

    Hatton fears Witter!

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    Default Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post


    in a way yes but not because he is scared because i know he isnt....he just dosnt like him and he knows he can sell out anywhere fighting any bum he wants thus making money off his name now.... that is great for him but not soo good for his loyal fans who have to defend him and it stinks

    Ricky should fight Witter he deserves his shot and the fans deserve the fight.

    before the mayweather fight i wanted to see Ricky fight one of 3 guys...

    Witter
    Cotto
    Maywether

    he was close to signing a fight with DLH this time last year when mayweather was messing him about but Mayweather jumped in took the fight with DLH it was due to be announced... so there is alot of stuff going on behind the sences that dont get announced.

    when the Mayweather fight was announced i was made up and gave Ricky a great chance of beating mayweather... alas it wasnt to be and ricky was found wanting NO SHAME IN THAT

    so now i dont really want Hatton to fight Cotto as i belive Cotto would knock him out as he hits alot harder than Mayweather so that leaves Witter.

    lets face facts Ricky aint got that long left and promised his mum he will be jacking in after this year ((before his loss)) so wasting his last fights with the likes of Lazcano if a shame for him and his loyal Fans and it just seems more safe and money drawn than leaving a legacy IMO

    bottom line i want to see him in with Witter as i also like Witter and belive he has earnt his shot

    as for the no offer from Witter that holds no weight with me at all because Hatton chooses his fights and he along calls the shots...not witter
    I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....

    But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?

    Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...
    quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....

    after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
    Floyd Maywether

    with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm

    i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching
    You really believe that's what happened?

    You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?

    I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.

    I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....

    But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?

    Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...
    quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....

    after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
    Floyd Maywether

    with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm

    i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching
    You really believe that's what happened?

    You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?

    I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.

    I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.
    I'm with you Ono, Hatton said himself he had a plan, 3 fights in the US and then Mayweather and thats what happned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    I agree he's earned his shot just as much as Urango, Collazo, Maussa, etc did.....

    But surely if Witter is the desperate one, he should make the offer?

    Going by your logic, Amir Kahn should have challenged John Thaxton, Mayweather should have challenged Baldomir, Tszyu should have challenged Hatton etc...
    quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....

    after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
    Floyd Maywether

    with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm

    i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching
    You really believe that's what happened?

    You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?

    I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.

    I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.
    as long as we agree he made the fight and not Ricky i aint bothered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post

    quote from Mayweather Hatton 24/7....

    after i seen Hattons comments about me after his Castillo win i said make the fucking fight.
    Floyd Maywether

    with yours and hattons legal guys thinking that dosnt happen but the above proves its the norm

    i'm sorry mate but this offer crap from hattons legal guy brings to mind the terms straws and clitching
    You really believe that's what happened?

    You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?

    I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.

    I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.
    as long as we agree he made the fight and not Ricky i aint bothered
    Yup agree 100%

    Ricky will do the same when he see's the £ signs....which is still probably about 12 months away


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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    You really believe that's what happened?

    You didn't believe Mayweather was going to fight him all along......once Hatton had built up his reputation in America?

    I don't believe that 'you saw more action in them 4 rounds then you did in Mayweather's career' inspired him enough to go through a 9 week training camp.

    I'm more inclined to believe he saw the $ signs as soon as Hatton ko'd Castillo.
    as long as we agree he made the fight and not Ricky i aint bothered
    Yup agree 100%

    Ricky will do the same when he see's the £ signs....which is still probably about 12 months away

    Wish i had your optomisim mate but i dont think this fight will ever happen now and there is no better time than the present IMO so if it aint happening now it will not be happening in the future... one of them will prob get beat withing the next 12 months and we'll be left arguing over Khans lack of challanges

    just one question for you mate who would you like to see Ricky fight next Lazcano or Witter i dont need an answer its for your own mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post

    as long as we agree he made the fight and not Ricky i aint bothered
    Yup agree 100%

    Ricky will do the same when he see's the £ signs....which is still probably about 12 months away

    Wish i had your optomisim mate but i dont think this fight will ever happen now and there is no better time than the present IMO so if it aint happening now it will not be happening in the future... one of them will prob get beat withing the next 12 months and we'll be left arguing over Khans lack of challanges

    just one question for you mate who would you like to see Ricky fight next Lazcano or Witter i dont need an answer its for your own mind
    Witter. I'd absolutely love it.

    IMO if Witter show's up, he could win.

    Listen, my whole basis of argument isn't on the fact that the fight shouldn't happen (it absolutely should, no question)

    My point is, there is a reason Witter hasn't made an offer yet and there's a reason why Hatton appears disinterested.

    You'll see in 2009....

    The fight will be a massive occassion......even bigger than it would be now with the way things are going.

    Witter will get Hatton when his popularity is back at it's peak (if all goes according to plan he will beat Lazcano and Paulie...which he should)

    Witter will then get his massive payday because he'll most likely still hold the WBC belt after fighting mandatories until next year

    Hatton will get his opponent when he is 35 years old which seems to be the pattern he likes to follow.

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    So is Hatton retiring soon then? Didn't know that.

    Also, when did this Witter craze start? I've been on this board for a while but never have I seen more then a passing call for Hatton to fight Witter. Now a couple months after a fairly good showing of himself versus the best fighter in the world, the calls are almost overwhelming.

    Witter may have earned his shot but this all just kind of came out of nowhere. At least it did to me.

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    Default Re: Is everyone in love with Junior Witter?

    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
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    Am not in love with either fighter thank you. However i do like both fighters.

    And that isn't making an offer. That's talking smack. If he was serious, Mick Hennessy would have made a formal offer....just like he did when Thaxton was calling out Kahn.

    He's had 7 years to make an offer.....yet he hasn't. The more famous Hatton has become, the louder Junior Witter has become. Still hasn't made any formal offers. Not even during the times when Hatton said he'd fight him have they made an offer.

    If the time comes when Junior does make a formal offer and it is rejected by Hatton, then i'll be critical.....but until then imo it's unfair to accuse Hatton of ducking because he isn't really ducking from anything.
    How can he make an offer when hatton doesn't even have the balls to come to the table.

    I wanna know how you're so sure an offer hasn't been made anyway. Stop making excuses for hatton already. This is blatant ducking. And BTW, you're clearly a hatton fan so I don't wanna hear it.
    Gareth Williams quote "Mick Hennesy or Junior Witter have never made an offer"

    Guess you don't know how matchmaking works in Boxing then.

    Simple. Mick Hennesey faxes an offer to team Hatton. Team Hattom mull over the offer and decided wether or not to accept it at least negotiate.

    They don't actually have to sit round a table, so Hatton's balls have nothing to do with Witter making an offer or not.

    How can it be an excuse when it's the truth?

    I just want to open up peoples eyes to the suggestion that Junior Witter could be stitching a lot of people up. You included...

    In fact i think both fighters and the media are doing a wonderful job in manipulating the public.
    That's not how matchmaking works at all. Witter isn't in a position to make an offer to Hatton because Hatton is the guy who calls the shots here. Hatton's people are the ones who make the offers.

    "Not making an offer" is just legalese anyway. Both sides may have had discussions about whether a future fight is going to happen anf Hatton's people may have said something like "we'll let you know when we're ready." However you look at this Hatton is ducking Witter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bx730NY View Post
    How can he make an offer when hatton doesn't even have the balls to come to the table.

    I wanna know how you're so sure an offer hasn't been made anyway. Stop making excuses for hatton already. This is blatant ducking. And BTW, you're clearly a hatton fan so I don't wanna hear it.
    Gareth Williams quote "Mick Hennesy or Junior Witter have never made an offer"

    Guess you don't know how matchmaking works in Boxing then.

    Simple. Mick Hennesey faxes an offer to team Hatton. Team Hattom mull over the offer and decided wether or not to accept it at least negotiate.

    They don't actually have to sit round a table, so Hatton's balls have nothing to do with Witter making an offer or not.

    How can it be an excuse when it's the truth?

    I just want to open up peoples eyes to the suggestion that Junior Witter could be stitching a lot of people up. You included...

    In fact i think both fighters and the media are doing a wonderful job in manipulating the public.
    That's not how matchmaking works at all. Witter isn't in a position to make an offer to Hatton because Hatton is the guy who calls the shots here. Hatton's people are the ones who make the offers.

    "Not making an offer" is just legalese anyway. Both sides may have had discussions about whether a future fight is going to happen anf Hatton's people may have said something like "we'll let you know when we're ready." However you look at this Hatton is ducking Witter.
    Ok well i can't change you're opinion.

    What are you willing to bet that as soon as Witter makes an offer, Hatton snaps his hand off? This fight will happen next year. 100% positively sure about it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Yup agree 100%

    Ricky will do the same when he see's the £ signs....which is still probably about 12 months away

    Wish i had your optomisim mate but i dont think this fight will ever happen now and there is no better time than the present IMO so if it aint happening now it will not be happening in the future... one of them will prob get beat withing the next 12 months and we'll be left arguing over Khans lack of challanges

    just one question for you mate who would you like to see Ricky fight next Lazcano or Witter i dont need an answer its for your own mind
    Witter. I'd absolutely love it.

    IMO if Witter show's up, he could win.

    Listen, my whole basis of argument isn't on the fact that the fight shouldn't happen (it absolutely should, no question)

    My point is, there is a reason Witter hasn't made an offer yet and there's a reason why Hatton appears disinterested.

    You'll see in 2009....

    The fight will be a massive occassion......even bigger than it would be now with the way things are going.

    Witter will get Hatton when his popularity is back at it's peak (if all goes according to plan he will beat Lazcano and Paulie...which he should)

    Witter will then get his massive payday because he'll most likely still hold the WBC belt after fighting mandatories until next year

    Hatton will get his opponent when he is 35 years old which seems to be the pattern he likes to follow.

    mate i sead this a few days ago and if the fight was gonna happen why dont they just stick Witter vs Paulie on the undercard of hatton vs payday and then Ricky fights the winner simple to me if the fight was gonna happen also see reply below to hatton retireing.

    Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
    So is Hatton retiring soon then? Didn't know that.

    Also, when did this Witter craze start? I've been on this board for a while but never have I seen more then a passing call for Hatton to fight Witter. Now a couple months after a fairly good showing of himself versus the best fighter in the world, the calls are almost overwhelming.

    Witter may have earned his shot but this all just kind of came out of nowhere. At least it did to me.
    yeah about 2 days before his loss to mayweather i read an article about Rickys mum saying he made a promise to herehe was retiring the end of this year but he lost that fight so i'm not sure if that promise still holds... but he is at the tale end of his career so Lazcano is a wasted fight to me.

    i think we will see lazcano, paulie and if i maywether fight dont happen i think he might just keep his promise and leave on a win ((if he wins of course ))

    as for all the Witter Hatton threads mate its because Ricky has a loyal following and Witter calls him out nearly everyday just seems to be the topic of debate recently

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