Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hitmandonny
Quote:
Originally Posted by
piye
No way on earth is Hatton pound for pound better than Wright or Oscar.
Hatton is currently recognised as the best light welter on the planet.
It's been a long time since Oscar was a world champ let alone universally recognised.
Winky may have had a claim tyo being the best Light Middle and middle in the world a few years ago, but what's he done since drawing with Taylor?
This is P4P not what have you done lately. it all about who beats who P4P.
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
In my opinion , i think that Joe need to do more for be classified in the Top 10 P4P , probably we will place him , but cmon not in the Top , he just came yesterday to fight with the Best of the World in US , in where have the most of Best Boxers of the World in his Div.......
THAT IS MY OPINION AND I RESPECT YOURS.......:cool:
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
Quote:
Originally Posted by
JLAQ
Quote:
Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
Quote:
Originally Posted by
JLAQ
Yeah. Floyd at top spot, that is. That's why no credible fan regards the Ring highly anymore. It has become so partisan and subjective. Floyd at number 1? Fukking BS.
Then who do you consider as no. 1 P4P ?
.
Either the British Bomber or the Man from Manila.
here is mine
1. Mayweather.......no one is really close.
2. Pacquiao
3. Cotto
4. Marquez
5. Calzaghe
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
The 3rd Brit to go in will be David Haye. He has obliterated one division, and now he is about to embark to his second.
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
I can't debate the Ring's opinion on their p4p list as it is just that their collective opinion.
What is interesting to me is BoxRec's p4p list look at their top 10 (mind you this is done strictly by technical analysis)
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Kelly Pavlik
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Manny Paquiao
7. Juan Manuel Marquez
8. Rafa Marquez
9. Winky Wright
10.Wladimir Klitschko
They don't even have Cotto in the top 10
Back to the topic at hand, I don't have a problem with Joe at #3 p4p, once Cotto has been around a little longer he will certainly dethrone him.
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
Quote:
Originally Posted by
killersheep
I can't debate the Ring's opinion on their p4p list as it is just that their collective opinion.
What is interesting to me is BoxRec's p4p list look at their top 10 (mind you this is done strictly by technical analysis)
1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. Joe Calzaghe
3. Kelly Pavlik
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Israel Vazquez
6. Manny Paquiao
7. Juan Manuel Marquez
8. Rafa Marquez
9. Winky Wright
10.Wladimir Klitschko
They don't even have Cotto in the top 10
Back to the topic at hand, I don't have a problem with Joe at #3 p4p, once Cotto has been around a little longer he will certainly dethrone him.
Wow! No Cotto!? Pacquiao #6?! Klitschko on the list?!?!?!
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
Yeah but that´s because Boxrec´s socalled objective rankings based on "technical analysis" are a complete joke. You are rewarded overly for activity via a point system and the end result are some very silly rankings. Living in Denmark, I remember back in the late 90´s Brian Nielsen claiming to be the number 3 heavyweight in the world because "the objective rankings" had him in that spot. He meant Boxrec and he was right...they had only Lewis and Holyfield ahead of him. That was the most ridiculous ranking I had ever seen and I have never been able to forget that.
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
Seems like a fair ranking to me...Bhop was 5 and Marquez was 4 ...Joe beat Bhop and Marquez just came off a loss so marquez moves down 1 and Joe with a win moves up 2.
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
honesly i wouldn't rank any higher then 5th at best, he hasn't proved anything with the hopkins fight and wouldn't prove anything fighting a old roy jones, so i wouldn't place him nowhere near the top, frankly if i had to stick him in it would be 10th
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Tins06
Seems like a fair ranking to me...Bhop was 5 and Marquez was 4 ...Joe beat Bhop and Marquez just came off a loss so marquez moves down 1 and Joe with a win moves up 2.
Thats my way of thinking. I think #3 is about right. Certainly no lower than 4 IMO
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
Quote:
Originally Posted by
BIG H
These lists are usually sh1te, but for those who say Joe doesn't deserve his place, can you tell us what more he can do and who else he has to beat.
Everybody said he must fight Lacy - he fought and beat him
Everybody said he must fight Kessler - he fought and beat him
Everybody said he must fight B-Hop - he fought and beat him
Regardless of what you think of his earlier career, he has fought the top 3 guys (whatever you think of Lacy with hindsight) that he could possibly have fought, if that doesn't deserve his status in the p4p list what does?
Even VD has him at number 5 FFS ;D
Number 5 is where he belongs
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Quote:
Originally Posted by
BIG H
These lists are usually sh1te, but for those who say Joe doesn't deserve his place, can you tell us what more he can do and who else he has to beat.
Everybody said he must fight Lacy - he fought and beat him
Everybody said he must fight Kessler - he fought and beat him
Everybody said he must fight B-Hop - he fought and beat him
Regardless of what you think of his earlier career, he has fought the top 3 guys (whatever you think of Lacy with hindsight) that he could possibly have fought, if that doesn't deserve his status in the p4p list what does?
Even VD has him at number 5 FFS ;D
Number 5 is where he belongs
I wouldn't have him lower than 4. I could only rate Mayweather, Pacquiao & maybe JMM ahead of him
Re: Joe Calzaghe now no. 3 in Ring Mag's latest P4P rankings
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Quote:
Originally Posted by
BIG H
These lists are usually sh1te, but for those who say Joe doesn't deserve his place, can you tell us what more he can do and who else he has to beat.
Everybody said he must fight Lacy - he fought and beat him
Everybody said he must fight Kessler - he fought and beat him
Everybody said he must fight B-Hop - he fought and beat him
Regardless of what you think of his earlier career, he has fought the top 3 guys (whatever you think of Lacy with hindsight) that he could possibly have fought, if that doesn't deserve his status in the p4p list what does?
Even VD has him at number 5 FFS ;D
Number 5 is where he belongs
I wouldn't have him lower than 4. I could only rate Mayweather, Pacquiao & maybe JMM ahead of him
