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Floyd is easily the most gifted fighter today. I do consider him #1 P4P but he should be dropped soon because of his inactivity and his unwillingness to fight the better fighters in his division. I could just imagine how crazy this forum would get if he was ever knocked out of the top spot.
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Other than what I just said, to get back on topic, I think Joe should be #4 right behind Juan Manuel Marquez. That's just my opinion...
So who deserves to be ahead of Calzaghe besides Floyd and Pac? JMM? He just lost to Pac. Hopkins? Obviously not, Calzaghe just beat him. Vazquez? He got stopped just three fights ago.
Calzaghe is where he should be at #3 IMO.
He should be #2.
1. PBF
2. Joe
3. Paq
4. JM Marquez
5. BHOP
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I got Joe at number 5.
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Personally P4P lists baffle me...Are we judging The proven all around superior Boxer or The one who beats fellow P4P fighters?
I can see him at 4th behind Mayweather/Pac/J.Marquez and Calzaghe.Yeh,I understand Marquez just lost a one point fight but Imo He is much more soundly and technically skilled than Calzaghe as an all around boxer.Regular weigt divisions are win or loss effected but does that negate your all around Skill as a P4P boxer??
What p4p fighter has Floyd beat SPECTACULARLY? NONE. Bear in mind that Hatton AT 147 is NOT by any means, a p4p fighter.
Pac on the other hand has beaten MAB, Morales, JMM, all p4pers, and has beaten them by putting their HOFer asses on the floor, MANY TIMES. That is what a p4p king does. Potshotting your way to victory against Baldomir isn't p4p worthy. Nor is illegally using your elbows, shoulders against opponents.
Floyd must have slept with JLAQ's girlfriend. It's one thing to root for you're favorite fighter, and boo you're least favorite, but to say that every fighter Floyd has fought is a bum, and to say Pac has fought all the greatest is completely ridiculous.
As for Joe, I got him three right now. Floyd is one, Pac- a very close second until Floyd decides to fight finally, and Joe. JMM and Pac r like a 2-headed monster, and should be tied, but with Pac escaping with the win, JMM falls 1. I put Joe ahead of him simply because,(with the exception of manfredo), his last fights have all been against champs. Overrated or not, they were champs, that were undefeated, and now he beat the concensus #1 light heavy, who is ranked as a p4p fighter,regardless of age, or any other excuse. All Joe has been doing is taking belts, and titles, he has no losses or draws. Although I think some of the other fighters might be better skilled, Joe has done enough lately, and others have lost.Just my opinion.
Yes, Floyd beats a 43 yr old BHOP, p4p, and doesn't get dropped.
The great Marco Antonio Barrera: OWNED!
The great Erik Morales: OWNED!
The great Juan Manuel Marquez: OWNED!
On the other hand, did Floyd own Castillo or DelaHoya, the biggest names in his resume? HELL FUCKING NO! And is Castillo even close to any of the three that Pac absolutely OWNED? Another HELL FUCKING NO!
I rest my case.
P.S. Nard beats Floyd. Especially if the ref helps him.
Last edited by JLAQ; 04-23-2008 at 03:30 AM.
Pac lost to Morrales, or did you forget, and he had a draw against JMM, which I thought he clearly lost, and the second fight against JMM could have went either way, So owned? you need to watch some more boxing son, because you obviously know nothing about it.
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