Re: Enzo: Pavlik is mechanical!
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.
Keep talking Enzo...
Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.
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Although it is a really mouthwatering matchup, and would be great if they can get it agreed, I really don't think Calzaghe's gonna go in there in fight Pavlik when he can just earn the same or more money fighting the aged Roy Jones Jr, and unlike single malt, RJJ ain't got better with age. If he does get in the ring with Kelly, and makes the fight at SMW with his unified titles on the line as well, it would be a very ballsy move, but I'm not convinced he's got the motivation to do it.
Re: Enzo: Pavlik is mechanical!
Loew knocks Enzio out with 1 punch. Jack can swing, Kelly doesn't even want to get hit by Jack
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Pavlik would be Joe's demise. I can't believe people are saying that Joe would have no problem with Pavlik!!! That is just absolute crazy talk! I'm starting to really dislike Joe and to this day don't find him that impressive. Him wanting to fight Roy Jones Jr. just adds fuel to the fire. Stop fighting people who aren't ready or are too far from their peak. PAVLIK is the real deal.
So what if Joe's getting old! It's not about the age, it's the mileage and Joe's milage isn't exactly in a bad spot.
Re: Enzo: Pavlik is mechanical!
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.
Keep talking Enzo...
Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.
:cool:
IIRC, the Taylor rematch was at 166, it was the 1st time Pavlik went 12 rounds and he beat JT by outworking him the entire time, particularly in the last 2-3 rounds, so I don't think 2 more pound will affect his output that much. I might get ripped for this, but in some ways, it reminded me of the JC-Hopkins fight in that one fighter was landing the more eye-catching blows while the other one relied on consistent work to win the fight.
Re: Enzo: Pavlik is mechanical!
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CFH
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Originally Posted by
PRIDE OF BOSTON
Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.
Keep talking Enzo...
Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.
:cool:
IIRC, the Taylor rematch was at 166, it was the 1st time Pavlik went 12 rounds and he beat JT by outworking him the entire time, particularly in the last 2-3 rounds, so I don't think 2 more pound will affect his output that much.
I might get ripped for this, but in some ways, it reminded me of the JC-Hopkins fight in that one fighter was landing the more eye-catching blows while the other one relied on consistent work to win the fight.
Yea, Bernard landing the more eye-catching blows while Calzaghe won with the more consistent work. Pavlik's workrate impresses me FAR MORE than Joe's. Joe throws a thousand slaps a fight as compared to Pavlik's slightly lower in number BUT actual PUNCH count.
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CFH
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Originally Posted by
PRIDE OF BOSTON
Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.
Keep talking Enzo...
Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.
:cool:
IIRC, the Taylor rematch was at 166, it was the 1st time Pavlik went 12 rounds and he beat JT by outworking him the entire time, particularly in the last 2-3 rounds, so I don't think 2 more pound will affect his output that much. I might get ripped for this, but in some ways, it reminded me of the JC-Hopkins fight in that one fighter was landing the more eye-catching blows while the other one relied on consistent work to win the fight.
Yes i did actually compare Taylor vs Pavlik 2 to Calzaghe vs Hopkins, but the difference is Calzaghe hardly landed a damaging blow on Hopkins IMO. Most of his punches were arm punching flurries/slaps. Where as Pavlik was landing solid left jabs/right hands.
Re: Enzo: Pavlik is mechanical!
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Cortez The Killer
Pavlik is mechanical. He is lucky he carries power at 160 because that is the only thing he is exceptional at there. Arum knows Pavlik is mediocre and that's why he is fighting a tomato can :-X
I have disliked the whole Pavlik crew after he robbed Jermain Taylor in the rematch. I'm also sick of seeing videos of pavlik hitting heavy bags with baseball bats or tires with sledgehammers. This kind of training is why he is so mechanical...plod, plod, plod until hopefully you can load up and connect with one big shot. Pavlik will not be around for long. Once he moves up in weight he is done.
You have got to be out of your fucking gord. He destroyed Taylor, Miranda and won a easy decision.
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Enzo: Pavlik is mechanical!
Thursday, May 22 2008
Joe Calzaghe's father/trainer Enzo Calzaghe has lashed out at Jack Loew, trainer of WBC/WBO middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik. Enzo who also trains Pavlik's June 7 challenger Gary Lockett, takes offense in Loew's statement that maybe Enzo can teach Lockett to slap like a girl - just like his son Joe. "Loew had better hope and pray that Lockett doesn't slap like Joe because if he does it's going to be goodnight for Kelly Pavlik," said Enzo. "...I have not seen anything from Kelly Pavlik whatsoever that worries me. He's a good fighter but he's mechanical, it's the same thing, same thing, same thing all the time. I can't get worried about it....he's never heard of Gary Lockett, never seen him fight, but Lockett knows all about Kelly Pavlik, and he is in for a surprise on June 7. His team opened their mouths and talked the talk, but can they walk the walk?" Pavlik and Lockett meet June 7th at Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City.
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Good night Kelly? Has Enzo seen a Pavlik fight? Super Mario better shut his mouth or Kelly just may move up a bust his son's mouth open.
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People can say what they want about a Kelly Joe matchup. Joe has never felt power like Kelly... I dont care if he's fought at 170. Hopkins does not have Pavlik's heavy hands or workrate... If a 43 yr old Hopkins (although still a good fighter) is the best thatJoe C has on his resume, I'd tell my father to quiet down before he gets joe KTFO!
YES ENZO , KELLY PAVLIK IS A BIT MECHANICAL , BUT SO IS A FUCKING TANK AND YOU DONT BEAT THAT EITHER
Re: Enzo: Pavlik is mechanical!
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Dark Lord Al
YES ENZO , KELLY PAVLIK IS A BIT MECHANICAL , BUT SO IS A FUCKING TANK AND YOU DONT BEAT THAT EITHER
Great joke mate, but I think you need to have a word with porkypara, who showed you up getting there first!
Anyhow, only a week to go, and I reckon Pavlik will blast Lockett out of there in a few rounds.
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I get a kick out of these people when they call a fighter mechanical. Especially when those mechanics won them undisputed world titles.
Re: Enzo: Pavlik is mechanical!
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superheavyrhun
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Dark Lord Al
YES ENZO , KELLY PAVLIK IS A BIT MECHANICAL , BUT SO IS A FUCKING TANK AND YOU DONT BEAT THAT EITHER
Great joke mate, but I think you need to have a word with porkypara, who showed you up getting there first!
Anyhow, only a week to go, and I reckon Pavlik will blast Lockett out of there in a few rounds.
I was going to point that out but i thought I would let it go.
Thanks for fighting my corner butt.;D
