Enzo: Pavlik is mechanical!

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I think Enzo is right when he says that Pavlik is mechanical.

Thats not to say that Lockett has a chance because a tank is mechanical and they are hard to stop if you dont have the right wepons,and Lockett does not have the right wepons to beat Pavlik.

So, to stretch this metaphor much further than it really should be stretched.... which fighter has the equivalent armory of those sticky bombs that you throw in the tank's caterpillar tracks?

Calzaghe!

Oh Geezus... Yeah and next he can clean up the heavyweight div... Then down to lightweight... After that over to jr middle to add some flavor to the mix.

[porkypara]

So, to stretch this metaphor much further than it really should be stretched.... which fighter has the equivalent armory of those sticky bombs that you throw in the tank's caterpillar tracks?

Calzaghe!

Oh Geezus... Yeah and next he can clean up the heavyweight div... Then down to lightweight... After that over to jr middle to add some flavor to the mix.

So you think that Pavlik would beat joe.

Get real.

[Deanrw]

Calzaghe!

Oh Geezus... Yeah and next he can clean up the heavyweight div... Then down to lightweight... After that over to jr middle to add some flavor to the mix.

So you think that Pavlik would beat joe.

Get real.

Is it such a stretch to think that Joe is 37 years old and while winning his last fight, looked far from spectacular?

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Calzaghe!

Oh Geezus... Yeah and next he can clean up the heavyweight div... Then down to lightweight... After that over to jr middle to add some flavor to the mix.

So you think that Pavlik would beat joe.

Get real

Not necessarily but I'm so sick of the fact that people think Joe is unbeatable... You think Pavlik wouldn't check that chin?

Look, I like pavlik and I'm a nut hugger and although I hate Joe's style it's tough to argue he's not one of the top 4 or five fighters in the world... I'm not a Joe hater either but I think even Joe would think twice before he stepped into the ring with Kelly...

Joe knew what he was getting into when he stepped into the ring with Hopkins. He knew it would be ugly and that the pace would be slowed.

We all talk about Joe's workrate as it is pretty amazing... The Lacy fight pretty much blew my mind... He looked fresh in the tenth... But how many people has Joe faced that can almost match his workrate and WILL land the harder blows.

I'm just saying that I think Kelly will surprise you if they fight... Joe may come out on top but he'll be in there for the fight of his life!

I see the fight going one of two ways.. A razor thin split dec for Joe

Or a KO late for Kelly...

That's it... Joe is good but the clocks ticking and even the mighty Joe Calzaghe can't make time stand still...

Hope this helps

[ICB]

Oh Geezus... Yeah and next he can clean up the heavyweight div... Then down to lightweight... After that over to jr middle to add some flavor to the mix.

So you think that Pavlik would beat joe.

Get real

Not necessarily but I'm so sick of the fact that people think Joe is unbeatable... You think Pavlik wouldn't check that chin?

Look, I like pavlik and I'm a nut hugger and although I hate Joe's style it's tough to argue he's not one of the top 4 or five fighters in the world... I'm not a Joe hater either but I think even Joe would think twice before he stepped into the ring with Kelly...

Joe knew what he was getting into when he stepped into the ring with Hopkins. He knew it would be ugly and that the pace would be slowed.

We all talk about Joe's workrate as it is pretty amazing... The Lacy fight pretty much blew my mind... He looked fresh in the tenth... But how many people has Joe faced that can almost match his workrate and WILL land the harder blows.

I'm just saying that I think Kelly will surprise you if they fight... Joe may come out on top but he'll be in there for the fight of his life!

I see the fight going one of two ways.. A razor thin split dec for Joe

Or a KO late for Kelly...

That's it... Joe is good but the clocks ticking and even the mighty Joe Calzaghe can't make time stand still...

Hope this helps

Agreed Calzaghe looked very beatable against Hopkins its just Hopkins couldn't keep up the pace.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

anyone who knows enzo knows he's full of praise for himself........ he's got this thing were he thinks he's the best......... you just have to watch him on the pads with his son and you'll see he truley beleaves its all about him..... the way he was going on in the corner in the hopkins fight was embaracing, you feel he was trying to showcase himself in vegas as a true boxing brain at work........... he's real arrogant and to many people unbearable now

i hope lockett does well, but with enzo singing in his ear i feel once theres a big wave hes goner sink............ still would be great to see him win

[Deanrw]

"Jack Loew, trainer of WBC/WBO middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik is challenging trainer Enzo Calzaghe to put his money where his mouth is. Loew says if Enzo is so confident about Gary Lockett being able to beat Pavlik on June 7 at the Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City, he should follow through with placing a wager on the fight.In their recent war of words, Enzo told Loew “If he’s so confident in his fighter, then why doesn’t he put his house on Pavlik winning?" Now Loew is ready to take him to task by accepting the offer.
“Whatever he wants to bet on the Lockett fight, I will bet him,” Loew told The Vindicator. “Anything. It’s legal in Atlantic City. I want his money.”
The bad blood began when Loew took a triple-shot when making a comment about Enzo's training of Lockett.
“Maybe Enzo can teach Lockett to slap like a girl — just like Joe (Calzaghe),” Lockett said.
Enzo came out swinging with a press release in response.
“I had to go on the Internet because I’d never even heard of this person Jack Loew,” Enzo said. “And all I found was that he paves driveways. Well, once Lockett has dealt with Pavlik and Loew is out of boxing then at least he can go back to paving driveways. I’ve got no one to answer to. I’ve trained four world champions, I’ve got other champions in my gym. I won trainer of the year in America for 2007.”
Loew told the Vindicator that the only reason anyone has heard of Enzo is because of his son, WBC/WBO/WBA super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe. He is not impressed with Enzo's other fighters.
“His last champ, Enzo Maccarinelli, was knocked out by David Haye,” Loew said. “Gavin Rees lost his welterweight title when he was knocked out in the 12th round. What the [heck] is he talking about?”
Loew is not impressed with his son, Joe Calzaghe, either. He very open to matching Pavlik against Joe Calzaghe in the near future.
“He’s knocked out 32 opponents, but 32 what, though?” Loew said. “The only thing he’s done is expose Jeff Lacy, which would have happened anyway. As far as Bernard Hopkins, he was a 43-year-old man. This guy is attacking me and he’s got nothing on his plate. If Manny Steward did it, it’s different. He’s trained 100 world champions. This guy has three and two just got knocked out. We’re willing to move up to super middleweight. It might be next year, it might be in October. Who knows? It might be our next fight. We’re open to anything."

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.

Keep talking Enzo...

Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.

[ICB]

Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.

Keep talking Enzo...

Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.

Pavlik is skinny so 8lbs shouldn't effect him in fact he might be even stronger with a little extra weight.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.

Keep talking Enzo...

Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.

Pavlik is skinny so 8lbs shouldn't effect him in fact he might be even stronger with a little extra weight.

As true as that may be, it's not always the case... I was a skinny 152lb amatuer but when I moved up only a few ponds I was unable to do the same things I was used to... I lost a noticable amount of speed with only about 5 lbs added on...

Everybodies body is different

[superheavyrhun]

Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.

Keep talking Enzo...

Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.

Although it is a really mouthwatering matchup, and would be great if they can get it agreed, I really don't think Calzaghe's gonna go in there in fight Pavlik when he can just earn the same or more money fighting the aged Roy Jones Jr, and unlike single malt, RJJ ain't got better with age. If he does get in the ring with Kelly, and makes the fight at SMW with his unified titles on the line as well, it would be a very ballsy move, but I'm not convinced he's got the motivation to do it.

[mexirican]

Loew knocks Enzio out with 1 punch. Jack can swing, Kelly doesn't even want to get hit by Jack

[C-Lo]

Pavlik would be Joe's demise. I can't believe people are saying that Joe would have no problem with Pavlik!!! That is just absolute crazy talk! I'm starting to really dislike Joe and to this day don't find him that impressive. Him wanting to fight Roy Jones Jr. just adds fuel to the fire. Stop fighting people who aren't ready or are too far from their peak. PAVLIK is the real deal.

So what if Joe's getting old! It's not about the age, it's the mileage and Joe's milage isn't exactly in a bad spot.

[CFH]

Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.

Keep talking Enzo...

Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.

IIRC, the Taylor rematch was at 166, it was the 1st time Pavlik went 12 rounds and he beat JT by outworking him the entire time, particularly in the last 2-3 rounds, so I don't think 2 more pound will affect his output that much. I might get ripped for this, but in some ways, it reminded me of the JC-Hopkins fight in that one fighter was landing the more eye-catching blows while the other one relied on consistent work to win the fight.

[C-Lo]

Honestly, this is a good matchup... Kelly has a naturally big frame... Wonder what 8lbs would do to his output, though. Anyhow, If Pavlic can keep the output and stamina up this would be Joe's toughest test to date IMO... Enzo won't bet Leow a dime cuz the fight's already lost.

Keep talking Enzo...

Be careful what you wish for... You just might get it... and IT just may be a right hand a tad harder then the one that knocked your son on his ass against Hopkins.

IIRC, the Taylor rematch was at 166, it was the 1st time Pavlik went 12 rounds and he beat JT by outworking him the entire time, particularly in the last 2-3 rounds, so I don't think 2 more pound will affect his output that much. I might get ripped for this, but in some ways, it reminded me of the JC-Hopkins fight in that one fighter was landing the more eye-catching blows while the other one relied on consistent work to win the fight.

Yea, Bernard landing the more eye-catching blows while Calzaghe won with the more consistent work. Pavlik's workrate impresses me FAR MORE than Joe's. Joe throws a thousand slaps a fight as compared to Pavlik's slightly lower in number BUT actual PUNCH count.