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Re: Question about Rocky III
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I've always wondered which exact punch it was shot in the movie... :dontknow:
He was in ICU for 9 days from what I've heard. :o Lungred was the hardest punching of all the actors he filmed with.
I'd say that although he was the hardest punching actor he was nothing in comparison to Morrisson and even Tarver.
Yeah, but by the time they filmed the last one no way was Stallone letting someone hit him for real. That house of cards would come tumbling right down. If Tarver hit him for real Stallone would need a colostomy bag. And the Morrison fight, if I'm not mistaken, was brief.
It was probably easier during the Tommy Gunn fight because they had clothes on. He could have worn protection, especially under that jacket.
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Hell no, Stallone wasn't taking any punishment from a real boxer!
During the filming of "Rocky Balboa" he collapsed on set whilst doing the excercises, he may have been built but he wasn't in any way fit.
I heard he was asked to spar SRL before the Contender II as a gimmick and he chose not to.
Hmmm... I wonder why? ;D Leonard still keeps extremely fit. This is the reason he was able to make those comeback fights... A sparing session with Stalone would take Rocky's PR people ten years to clean up and by then he'll be 70;D
Leonard's walking around below 160 and in the gym regularly.
not pumping weights like Stallone, he's hitting the bag and going through the motions still. He'd give any new up and comer problems!!!!
Unless that up-and-comer throws haymakers from his hip I doubt it. SRL may be in good shape, but he has 0 reflexes. And where would he run from the pain?
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Hmmm... I wonder why? ;D Leonard still keeps extremely fit. This is the reason he was able to make those comeback fights... A sparing session with Stalone would take Rocky's PR people ten years to clean up and by then he'll be 70;D
Leonard's walking around below 160 and in the gym regularly.
not pumping weights like Stallone, he's hitting the bag and going through the motions still. He'd give any new up and comer problems!!!!
Unless that up-and-comer throws haymakers from his hip I doubt it. SRL may be in good shape, but he has 0 reflexes. And where would he run from the
pain?
Ah I was exaggerating. I'll admit.
But then again if Jeff Fenech and Azumah Nelson.....I'll shut up now.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
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In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.
Stallone is a soft rich man.
I've always wondered which exact punch it was shot in the movie... :dontknow:
He was in ICU for 9 days from what I've heard. :o Lungred was the hardest punching of all the actors he filmed with.
I'd say that although he was the hardest punching actor he was nothing in comparison to Morrisson and even Tarver.
One thing you have to remember though about IV. Because of the idea that Drago was super human, Stallone wanted to make the fight scenes more realistic and he actually wanted to be hit hard to make it more realistic. All the guys could probably hit relatively well, but if Stallone was telling Lundgren specifically to hit him harder, there you go.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
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I've always wondered which exact punch it was shot in the movie... :dontknow:
He was in ICU for 9 days from what I've heard. :o Lungred was the hardest punching of all the actors he filmed with.
I'd say that although he was the hardest punching actor he was nothing in comparison to Morrisson and even Tarver.
One thing you have to remember though about IV. Because of the idea that Drago was super human, Stallone wanted to make the fight scenes more realistic and he actually wanted to be hit hard to make it more realistic. All the guys could probably hit relatively well, but if Stallone was telling Lundgren specifically to hit him harder, there you go.
It really should have been written more like Rocky III, where he's dodging most of the punches.
If there were a boxer that could really hit as Drago was supposed to (2150 psi. punch), there's no way in hell fire anybody could have taken that many shot like Rocky did. Just look at how long it (didn't) take for Drago to kill Apollo, although Apollo took the fight too lightly.
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I'd say that although he was the hardest punching actor he was nothing in comparison to Morrisson and even Tarver.
One thing you have to remember though about IV. Because of the idea that Drago was super human, Stallone wanted to make the fight scenes more realistic and he actually wanted to be hit hard to make it more realistic. All the guys could probably hit relatively well, but if Stallone was telling Lundgren specifically to hit him harder, there you go.
It really should have been written more like Rocky III, where he's dodging most of the punches.
If there were a boxer that could really hit as Drago was supposed to (2150 psi. punch), there's no way in hell fire anybody could have taken that many shot like Rocky did. Just look at how long it (didn't) take for Drago to kill Apollo, although Apollo took the fight too lightly.
Maybe Rocky had a thicker skull than Apollo. At any rate, Rocky did have some longterm damage. I remember in the beginning of V how he was shaking like a baby in the hands of a British Au pair.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
In Rocky 5, he had that special kind of brain damage which makes you hear loud noises and see flash backs of getting knocked out. Luckily it went away before Rocky 6.
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In Rocky 5, he had that special kind of brain damage which makes you hear loud noises and see flash backs of getting knocked out. Luckily it went away before Rocky 6.
With the ability to age your child by about 7 years.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
As I understand it, Rocky V didn't happen I remember him saying something on the special features where he said something like that.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
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As I understand it, Rocky V didn't happen I remember him saying something on the special features where he said something like that.
What do you mean?
It is weird how is brain damage seemed to have gone in Rocky VI even though the doctors had said it was irreversable (although time could have had an effect on this). But I did notice no clips whatsoever were used from Rocky V like there were from the others. No mention of Tommy Gunn, etc.
And it was also a flaw when you could see the age difference in his son between Rocky IV and Rocky V. :confused:
That's kind of strange though to say that V never happened.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
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One thing you have to remember though about IV. Because of the idea that Drago was super human, Stallone wanted to make the fight scenes more realistic and he actually wanted to be hit hard to make it more realistic. All the guys could probably hit relatively well, but if Stallone was telling Lundgren specifically to hit him harder, there you go.
It really should have been written more like Rocky III, where he's dodging most of the punches.
If there were a boxer that could really hit as Drago was supposed to (2150 psi. punch), there's no way in hell fire anybody could have taken that many shot like Rocky did. Just look at how long it (didn't) take for Drago to kill Apollo, although Apollo took the fight too lightly.
Maybe Rocky had a thicker skull than Apollo. At any rate, Rocky did have some longterm damage. I remember in the beginning of V how he was shaking like a baby in the hands of a British Au pair.
True, but I'm still surprised he was even able to walk or talk at all. That's why it's just a movie. :rolleyes: ;D
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It's simple, Rocky V sucked. It would be much easier to act like it never happened then it would to work around that ridiculous movie. Rocky Balboa was great, just as great as I and II. I had a thought but kind of lost it as I typed that. But yeah, it was the only sequel with no mention or clips of the movie before it. That's intentional.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
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Yeah, the guy was a serious chunk of meat.
He had a brain also, he has a doctrate from a Scandanavian university if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, I remember him on Arsenio saying he got a full scholarship to MIT. Jeesh, why not go for the trifecta and tell me he's got a huge schlonger and he's cramming my wife?
Ha Ha, he seems like a cool guy.
He's no boxer though:)
No, but he was European full-contact Kyokushinkai Karate Champion, holding a 3rd Dan, so he knew a bit about fighting.
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He did try and eradicate (nice word that don't you think ;)) Rocky V from memeory as he believed it was crap.
A bit like they did with Highlander II when they released III (which wasn't all that bad) but II has to be one of the worst sequels to get a cinema release of all time
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Re: Question about Rocky III
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Yeah, I remember him on Arsenio saying he got a full scholarship to MIT. Jeesh, why not go for the trifecta and tell me he's got a huge schlonger and he's cramming my wife?
Ha Ha, he seems like a cool guy.
He's no boxer though:)
No, but he was European full-contact Kyokushinkai Karate Champion, holding a 3rd Dan, so he knew a bit about fighting.
I don't want to offend anyone here, although I probably will.
But Karate....It's pretty shit really.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
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As I understand it, Rocky V didn't happen I remember him saying something on the special features where he said something like that.
What do you mean?
It is weird how is brain damage seemed to have gone in Rocky VI even though the doctors had said it was irreversable (although time could have had an effect on this). But I did notice no clips whatsoever were used from Rocky V like there were from the others. No mention of Tommy Gunn, etc.
And it was also a flaw when you could see the age difference in his son between Rocky IV and Rocky V. :confused:
That's kind of strange though to say that V never happened.
He could say that V was a figment of his imagination while in the coma post rocky IV... His brain damage caused the illusions;D
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As I understand it, Rocky V didn't happen I remember him saying something on the special features where he said something like that.
What do you mean?
It is weird how is brain damage seemed to have gone in Rocky VI even though the doctors had said it was irreversable (although time could have had an effect on this). But I did notice no clips whatsoever were used from Rocky V like there were from the others. No mention of Tommy Gunn, etc.
And it was also a flaw when you could see the age difference in his son between Rocky IV and Rocky V. :confused:
That's kind of strange though to say that V never happened.
He could say that V was a figment of his imagination while in the coma post rocky IV... His brain damage caused the illusions;D
I believe he did.
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What do you mean?
It is weird how is brain damage seemed to have gone in Rocky VI even though the doctors had said it was irreversable (although time could have had an effect on this). But I did notice no clips whatsoever were used from Rocky V like there were from the others. No mention of Tommy Gunn, etc.
And it was also a flaw when you could see the age difference in his son between Rocky IV and Rocky V. :confused:
That's kind of strange though to say that V never happened.
He could say that V was a figment of his imagination while in the coma post rocky IV... His brain damage caused the illusions;D
I believe he did.
Is it in the DVD of 'Balboa'?
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But wait! How does he explain the fact that he still lost all his money? While he was doing better than he was later in V, he still wasn't rich like he was in IV. :dontknow:
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He could say that V was a figment of his imagination while in the coma post rocky IV... His brain damage caused the illusions;D
I believe he did.
Is it in the DVD of 'Balboa'?
No, in some obscure interview or other....
As for the money, would't he have spent it all on hospital bills etc.?
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I believe he did.
Is it in the DVD of 'Balboa'?
No, in some obscure interview or other....
As for the money, would't he have spent it all on hospital bills etc.?
Adrean's cancer would have made quick work of any money he had...
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Is it in the DVD of 'Balboa'?
No, in some obscure interview or other....
As for the money, would't he have spent it all on hospital bills etc.?
Adrean's cancer would have made quick work of any money he had...
And the son was private schooled wasn't he?
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think so
Has a fighter ever returned after being in a coma?
I know my countryman McCullough has returned after several brain bleeds and cysts, but anyone from a coma?
Speaking of which Wayne returns shortly against Juan Ruiz!
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Is it in the DVD of 'Balboa'?
No, in some obscure interview or other....
As for the money, would't he have spent it all on hospital bills etc.?
Adrean's cancer would have made quick work of any money he had...
Didn't Paulie burn up Rocky's money with shoddy investments?
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hitmandonny
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
think so
Has a fighter ever returned after being in a coma?
I know my countryman McCullough has returned after several brain bleeds and cysts, but anyone from a coma?
Speaking of which Wayne returns shortly against Juan Ruiz!
Always liked McCoullough but always thought him fighting after those issues was a bit irrisposible...
Wish him good health though...
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Re: Question about Rocky III
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amat
As I understand it, Rocky V didn't happen I remember him saying something on the special features where he said something like that.
What do you mean?
It is weird how is brain damage seemed to have gone in Rocky VI even though the doctors had said it was irreversable (although time could have had an effect on this). But I did notice no clips whatsoever were used from Rocky V like there were from the others. No mention of Tommy Gunn, etc.
And it was also a flaw when you could see the age difference in his son between Rocky IV and Rocky V. :confused:
That's kind of strange though to say that V never happened.
In the ton of media that Sly did before Rocky Balboa came out, he said that the original doctor analysis was that he had brain damage, but since he only went for one opinion, it could've simply been a severe concussion.
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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hitmandonny
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
think so
Has a fighter ever returned after being in a coma?
I know my countryman McCullough has returned after several brain bleeds and cysts, but anyone from a coma?
Speaking of which Wayne returns shortly against Juan Ruiz!
Always liked McCoullough but always thought him fighting after those issues was a bit irrisposible...
Wish him good health though...
There are rumours that his wife is pushing him into it, not sure how true they are....
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hitmandonny
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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hitmandonny
Has a fighter ever returned after being in a coma?
I know my countryman McCullough has returned after several brain bleeds and cysts, but anyone from a coma?
Speaking of which Wayne returns shortly against Juan Ruiz!
Always liked McCoullough but always thought him fighting after those issues was a bit irrisposible...
Wish him good health though...
There are rumours that his wife is pushing him into it, not sure how true they are....
Should push her ass into the ring and see how she fairs... Funt!;D
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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hitmandonny
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
Always liked McCoullough but always thought him fighting after those issues was a bit irrisposible...
Wish him good health though...
There are rumours that his wife is pushing him into it, not sure how true they are....
Should push her ass into the ring and see how she fairs... Funt!;D
Ha Ha.
They've been together since their mid teens, I really can't make a call on whether it's true or not.
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hitmandonny
There are rumours that his wife is pushing him into it, not sure how true they are....
Should push her ass into the ring and see how she fairs... Funt!;D
Ha Ha.
They've been together since their mid teens, I really can't make a call on whether it's true or not.
Nah that statement was ment only if it was... I hear ya.:cool:
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
Should push her ass into the ring and see how she fairs... Funt!;D
Ha Ha.
They've been together since their mid teens, I really can't make a call on whether it's true or not.
Nah that statement was ment only if it was... I hear ya.:cool:
Hell if it is true, I'm right there with you.
You know how annoyed I got when I heard Jin Mosely claiming that she has the hard job and Shane does the easy part!
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Ha Ha.
They've been together since their mid teens, I really can't make a call on whether it's true or not.
Nah that statement was ment only if it was... I hear ya.:cool:
Hell if it is true, I'm right there with you.
You know how annoyed I got when I heard Jin Mosely claiming that she has the hard job and Shane does the easy part!
Shane should beat her and then yell, "We're even!":owned:
Seriously though... I hope that was taken out of context cuz that's attrocious!
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Nah that statement was ment only if it was... I hear ya.:cool:
Hell if it is true, I'm right there with you.
You know how annoyed I got when I heard Jin Mosely claiming that she has the hard job and Shane does the easy part!
Shane should beat her and then yell, "We're even!":owned:
Seriously though... I hope that was taken out of context cuz that's attrocious!
Alright man....
Go to the hbo website
HBO Online
Go to photos and videos and fiddle around until you find the Shane Mosely vids.....I couldn't believe it!!!
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My soundcard is busted so I wouldn't be able to hear it anyway...
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My soundcard is busted so I wouldn't be able to hear it anyway...
No worries, the words are ringing loud enough in my head anyway.
The video makes it look like Jin wears the pants and Shane is just the boxer.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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hitmandonny
No, in some obscure interview or other....
As for the money, would't he have spent it all on hospital bills etc.?
Adrean's cancer would have made quick work of any money he had...
Didn't Paulie burn up Rocky's money with shoddy investments?
That was in the real Rocky V. Not sure how it happened if he was supposed to be in a coma, although as mentioned above, Adrian's cancer could have used up a lot of it.
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Re: Question about Rocky III
Apollo Greed had the best jab of his opponents, but it was strange that Rocky got more intelligent and less punchy after each film :)
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Re: Question about Rocky III
I thought Doplh Lungdren was a kickboxing champion at some point??
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Re: Question about Rocky III
Yes he was a fighter but said he did not like the shorter fighters kicking his ass.
