Question about Rocky III

[Trainer Monkey]

I wonder why Mr. T didn't become a boxer. Hey, good for him he didn't have to get punched in the face to make a living, but he might have been good.

Too muscular,and too short

[The Fightfan]

I think the best fighter of all of them was Apollo Creed damn shame to because he was better than Mason Dixon .I think Carl Weathers would have kicked Antonio Tarver's ass in a real fight.

[X]

Guys, guys .... it takes more than a few muscles to become a fighter.

Firstly, you need to learn your craft as a fighter - that's why guys like Foreman etc can beat the shit out of young muscley guys - the olden greats didn;t have ripped physiques like today's guys but their stamina was much better as they were not sweating every ounce off to make a weight.

Look at guys like Frank Bruno, huge muscles and all but he was mechanical and was not a graceful fighter at heart. Someone like Jack Dempsey four stone lighter and 4 inches shorter, would have eaten him up.

Some fake wrestler or actor would not be able to go with a fighter in the top 100 in any weight (apart from the heavys and the flyweights as there is not as much depth there) ...... I'm with Trainer Monkey on this.

Innfact, I'd quite like to see someone like Jean Claude Vann Damme get totally battered, humiliated and knocked senseless by someone like Micheal Nunn. When a professional fighter - at any weight - hits a 'civilian', said civvy gets wrecked.

[motorcityhitman]

I think Mr.T used to work as a minder to the stars as he was a bit of a hard man.

almost certainly no Lenny though...

In Larry Holmes autobiography he states that MR T was the bodyguard of Leon Spinks and that Holmes and Spinks both attended a function and all Leon did was abuse Larry and also his wife Dianne, Holmes did say though to be fair that MR T did stand his ground in front of Leon.

[motorcityhitman]

I heard that before Mr. T, there was a boxer in real life named Earnest (can't remember his last name) that was supposed to portray Clubber Lang. But he had a squeaky voice, much like Mike Tyson, and Stallone didn't want that.

Then there was another guy (don't know if it was Earnest or not), that got in the ring and wanted to beat the hell out of Stallone, he didn't understand the concept of 'ACTING', and that in the script he was going to lose, so Stallone had to kick him out. Does anyone know the guys name?

I think i can put some of this straight. Earnie Shavers was asked by Stallone to try out for the part of Clubber Lang. So Earnie turns up and Stallone asked him to do a fight scene. So Earnie ( one of the hardest punchers in history ) did a fight scene and purposely pulled his punches. Stallone after about 10 minutes said come on Earnie you got to punch properly so Shavers punched Stallone in the stomach at full tilt and knocked Stallone down for about 10 minutes. At the end of the trial Stallone told Shavers he wouldnt get the part because the public wouldny buy into Stallone knocking Shavers out. This is all written in the Shavers autobiography "Welcome to the Big time"

PS- in Rocky 2, Micky tells him he needs speed so Rocky spars with a ligtweight. If you look carefully it is Roberto Duran. Check the credits if you want to.

[roheblius]

Hey guys,

My first post, so be nice! Just kidding.

At Wrestlemania 2, he and Roddy Piper did some real (and some fake) boxing and T blew up in minutes. Piper had some boxing background and even though he threw mainly worked punches, his hand speed was twice as T's. T could only really lunge.

As a boxer, he probably wouldn't have been very good. But as a bodyguard who needed to look mean, not sure there was anyone better.

[Put Em' Up]

The guy is actually known to be genuinely nice fellow. Does a slew of charity work. I also know he is a genuine bad ass that is not to be messed with.

If I am not mistaken he was in a special op's division of the military (The kind where they infiltrate places and leave no witnesses) and no I do not mean the A-Team lol.

He was a student of Bruce Lee's as well as a Body guard for him. He was a bodyguard for Joe Frazier, Leon Spinks and for a while Ali.

He was discovered at the Worlds Toughest Bouncer Competition.

I was a hige fan as a teenager. Why? I could not tell you

[Hulk]

Guys, guys .... it takes more than a few muscles to become a fighter.

Firstly, you need to learn your craft as a fighter - that's why guys like Foreman etc can beat the shit out of young muscley guys - the olden greats didn;t have ripped physiques like today's guys but their stamina was much better as they were not sweating every ounce off to make a weight.

Look at guys like Frank Bruno, huge muscles and all but he was mechanical and was not a graceful fighter at heart. Someone like Jack Dempsey four stone lighter and 4 inches shorter, would have eaten him up.

Some fake wrestler or actor would not be able to go with a fighter in the top 100 in any weight (apart from the heavys and the flyweights as there is not as much depth there) ...... I'm with Trainer Monkey on this.

Innfact, I'd quite like to see someone like Jean Claude Vann Damme get totally battered, humiliated and knocked senseless by someone like Micheal Nunn. When a professional fighter - at any weight - hits a 'civilian', said civvy gets wrecked.

Don't diss Van Damme. Them's fightin words son...

[donnydarkoIRL]

In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.

Stallone is a soft rich man.

[Hulk]

In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.

Stallone is a soft rich man.

Stallone sparred with Duran for God Sakes!!! lol.

Where did you hear about Dolph Lundgren hurtin him like that?
Sources please?

[donnydarkoIRL]

In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.

Stallone is a soft rich man.

Stallone sparred with Duran for God Sakes!!! lol.

Where did you hear about Dolph Lundgren hurtin him like that?
Sources please?

Well its reported he broke his ribs during Rambo first blood, Rocky 2 with Carl Weathers, Rocky 3 with Mr.t and Rocky 4 with Lundgren.

Funnily enough Morrisson was the only one not to break his ribs

Lundgren said in an interview he broke Stallones ribs by accident.


As for sparring wioth Duran, anyone could spar him, doesn't mean they'd succeed.

[Memphis]

My eldest brother was a huge Stallone fan back in the day and used to keep scrapbooks, Rocky 4 one is pretty impressive. Stallone said himself that Lundgren beat the piss out of him.

[Mark TKO]

Ralph Macchio would open a can of whoop-ass on the whole lot of them put together


FACT !

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Ralph Macchio would open a can of whoop-ass on the whole lot of them put together


FACT !

The Crane: "If done correct... No can defense!"

Drum Technique... Nuff said

[Wayne]

In preparation Rolph Lundgregn or however you spell it, hit Stallone in the stomach, broke his ribs, downed him and hispitalised him, by accident.

Stallone is a soft rich man.

Lundgren was diesel back in the day. Hell, he's still ripped and he's gotta be in his 50s. I wouldn't mess with him. Unless he'd spot me and let me smash him over the head with a bat first.

Ugh, let me take that back. Dolph looks really old now. He could still beat me up, but only because I respect my elders.