So what is now your revised p4p top 10???

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure. :confused:


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

---

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this??????????

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure. :confused:


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

---

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this??????????

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

---

in micks defence i think the best way to rate a fighter is by look at their ahcivements but also thier skill and technical ability and it would be fair to say the likes of miijares and calderon are more techniclly skilled than hatton

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure. :confused:


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

---

Nonito Doniare was actually a thought over Chris John but with the fact he has had so many less fights then these other guys I left him out all together. I do think he is as talented as most on the list though.

1. Joe Calzaghe
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. JMM
4. Pavlik
5. Cotto
6. Vazquez
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. B-Hop
9. Rafa
10. Mijares
Sorry I had to give Wlad a nod

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

These lists are sooo subjective...

Everyones right & everyones wrong, go figure. :confused:


1. Pac
2. JMM
3. Joe
4. B-Hop
5. Izzy
6. Cotto
7. Pavlik
8. Mijares
9. Rafa
10. Calderon

*The ten spot can go several ways.
Guzman, Montiel, Nonaire to name a few...

---

All decent enough fighters

But couldnt hold a torch to the hitman

This hatton embargo has really got to stop...

fights 44 - won 43 - Drawn 0 - lost 1(to the greatest P4P fighter of our era) - KO 31

2 Weight world champion
won 5 different world championships
has stopped greats like kostya Tszyu and jose luis castillo


fernando montiel, nonaire, mijares are all much more established champions than this??????????

Something tells me youve been drinking from the same deluded glass as VD!!

---

I was thinking of putting him in the #10 spot on my list, but out of the 45 fights he has 2 or 3 wins that are truly impressive. He was badly outclassed against PBF as well. I like Hatton, but until he beats someone of note he is off my list.

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment but there could be some interesting developments if as he says his next fight is his last

Pav looks on the up, Cotto is too and maybe Juanma may become a superstar in years to come. Oscar may have a final assult on the p4p ratings too if Hatton changes his mind and fights him .

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment

---

Why's that?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment

---

Why's that?

---

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment

---

Why's that?

---

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

---

Well, Sven Ottke must be 1 or 2 spots behind him then. Cuz he defended his title more than Calz did.

Since we're already in this silly conversation, why don't we throw in Chris John! he is undefeated and defended his title and beat JMM...shouldnt that 1 win against a legend already make him p4p king?

Thats funny cause thats all Calzaghe has is a win against a faded legend who is in his mid 40s!.. Not late 20s,.. but mid 40s. :p

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Joe Calzaghe is the best p4p fighter at the moment

---

Why's that?

---

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

---

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Why's that?

---

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

---

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

---

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

---

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

---

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Pac hasn't been KO'd since he moved up in weight, which played a huge role in him being stopped. The only other fighter he has lost to is an ATG in Morales. He's drawn with and beat JMM, another P4P fighter, beaten Barrera, and he's sought the highest level of competition for the last several years. The same cannot be said about Calzaghe. I assume Hopkins is the American legend you referred to on Calzaghe's record, but like you said he's old and well past his prime. Aside from old B-Hop, Lacy, Eubanks, and Kessler are the best names on Calzaghe's record, all quality fighters for sure, but they pale in comparison to Barrera, Morales, and Marquez.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

---

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

---

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Lol! I don't think you understand the term "pound-for-pound".

If Calzaghe was the same size with Pacquiao and they fight, who do you think will win?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

---

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Pac hasn't been KO'd since he moved up in weight, which played a huge role in him being stopped. The only other fighter he has lost to is an ATG in Morales. He's drawn with and beat JMM, another P4P fighter, beaten Barrera, and he's sought the highest level of competition for the last several years. The same cannot be said about Calzaghe. I assume Hopkins is the American legend you referred to on Calzaghe's record, but like you said he's old and well past his prime. Aside from old B-Hop, Lacy, Eubanks, and Kessler are the best names on Calzaghe's record, all quality fighters for sure, but they pale in comparison to Barrera, Morales, and Marquez.

---

Damn right CHF!

We're talking about Pac beating 3 future HOFers (3 KOs - 11 KDs combined) and Calzaghe only beating 1 mid 40s future HOFer. ;D Heck, even old B-hop managed to floor Joe.

This is more about GAME's dislike for Pac rather than his belief of Calzaghe. When someone can't respect someone who's done something that ALMOST MOST boxers can't say as in beating 3 future HOFers, winning titles in 3 weight divisions (going for 4), and the balls to say he wants to fight the best man two weight classes above him.

That's just ridiculous!

I hate Joe's way of fighting but I still respect him as a fighter.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

This is more about GAME's dislike for Pac rather than his belief of Calzaghe. When someone can't respect someone who's done something that ALMOST MOST boxers can't say as in beating 3 future HOFers, winning titles in 3 weight divisions (going for 4), and the balls to say he wants to fight the best man two weight classes above him.

That's just ridiculous!

I hate Joe's way of fighting but I still respect him as a fighter.

---

Manny defeated Marco, Erik, and Juan while they were in top 10 p4p. ;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

---

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Lol! I don't think you understand the term "pound-for-pound".

If Calzaghe was the same size with Pacquiao and they fight, who do you think will win?

---

If Calzaghe and Pacquiao were the same size, Pacquiao would DESTROY HIM! Like I say with Pavlik, Joe fighting someone who throws as many punches as he does, but the difference being Pav and Pac have power.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

---

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Lol! I don't think you understand the term "pound-for-pound".

If Calzaghe was the same size with Pacquiao and they fight, who do you think will win?

---

Defo Calzaghe . No Doubt . If Singusgat and Torencampo knocked Pac spark out , Imagine what Joe would do .

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

This is more about GAME's dislike for Pac rather than his belief of Calzaghe. When someone can't respect someone who's done something that ALMOST MOST boxers can't say as in beating 3 future HOFers, winning titles in 3 weight divisions (going for 4), and the balls to say he wants to fight the best man two weight classes above him.

That's just ridiculous!

I hate Joe's way of fighting but I still respect him as a fighter.

---

I don't know if Game dislikes Pac, I haven't seen any evidence of that. He's just stating why he think Calzaghe deserves to be higher on the P4P list, an opinion many people hold. I happen to think Pac should be higher, but a decent argument can be made for Calzaghe. I actually have Calzaghe behind both J.M. Marquez and Vazquez on my P4P list, but that's a controversial position.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Lol! I don't think you understand the term "pound-for-pound".

If Calzaghe was the same size with Pacquiao and they fight, who do you think will win?

---

If Calzaghe and Pacquiao were the same size, Pacquiao would DESTROY HIM! Like I say with Pavlik, Joe fighting someone who throws as many punches as he does, but the difference being Pav and Pac have power.. and granite chin.

---

Fixed!

I had to add it. ;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Lol! I don't think you understand the term "pound-for-pound".

If Calzaghe was the same size with Pacquiao and they fight, who do you think will win?

---

Defo Calzaghe . No Doubt . If Singusgat and Torencampo knocked Pac spark out , Imagine what Joe would do .

---

So by this way of thinking, since Singusgat and Torencampo knocked out Pacquiao, they would also do the same to Barrera, Morales, and Marquez?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Lol! I don't think you understand the term "pound-for-pound".

If Calzaghe was the same size with Pacquiao and they fight, who do you think will win?

---

Defo Calzaghe . No Doubt . If Singusgat and Torencampo knocked Pac spark out , Imagine what Joe would do .

---

So by this way of thinking, since Singusgat and Torencampo knocked out Pacquiao, they would also do the same to Barrera, Morales, and Marquez?

---

No thats stupid logic cuz Pac isnt better than teh 3 Mexicans . He just got them at the right time. Anyway washed up Morales beat Prime Pac . Erik was coming off a loss but still beat Pac . Everyone thought Marquez was robbed twice against him and he hardly dazzled last time vs Barrera .

Anyways wait for a washed up Ricky Hatton to finish off Pac . Its coming . . . ;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Lol! I don't think you understand the term "pound-for-pound".

If Calzaghe was the same size with Pacquiao and they fight, who do you think will win?

---

Defo Calzaghe . No Doubt . If Singusgat and Torencampo knocked Pac spark out , Imagine what Joe would do .

---

So by this way of thinking, since Singusgat and Torencampo knocked out Pacquiao, they would also do the same to Barrera, Morales, and Marquez?

---

:lol::biglaugh::lolhaha::appl::lolololol:

I almost pissed in my pants! I can't stop laughing. Lmfao!

What a fukked up logical reasoning there by...

GAME:bashtroll4cx4:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Defo Calzaghe . No Doubt . If Singusgat and Torencampo knocked Pac spark out , Imagine what Joe would do .

---

So by this way of thinking, since Singusgat and Torencampo knocked out Pacquiao, they would also do the same to Barrera, Morales, and Marquez?

---

:lol::biglaugh::lolhaha::appl::lolololol:

I almost pissed in my pants! What fukked up logical reasoning there by...

GAME:bashtroll4cx4:

---

I didnt expect anything less from a pacfan . This is how you lot react whenever anything negative is brought up about him . He isnt superman you know. If he is, Torrencamo must be kryptonite ;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Defo Calzaghe . No Doubt . If Singusgat and Torencampo knocked Pac spark out , Imagine what Joe would do .

---

So by this way of thinking, since Singusgat and Torencampo knocked out Pacquiao, they would also do the same to Barrera, Morales, and Marquez?

---

No thats stupid logic cuz Pac isnt better than teh 3 Mexicans . He just got them at the right time. Anyway washed up Morales beat Prime Pac . Erik was coming off a loss but still beat Pac . Everyone thought Marquez was robbed twice against him and he hardly dazzled last time vs Barrera .
Anyways wait for a washed up Ricky Hatton to finish off Pac . Its coming . . . ;D

---

He beat all three of them, but you're right, he's not better. Barrera, Morales, Marquez, and Pacquiao if all in their primes would still be a bunch of pick 'em fights. Anyone who says other wise is out of their mind. But yet again, since Pacs name is in that company, let's put in Singusgat and Torencampo cause they beat him, right?

Wouldn't be surprised if it did happen. Pacquiao started at 106 and wants to end his career at 140. Not too many people can jump that high in weight and still come out respectable.

Question for GAME, I can understand if you dislike Pac, many people do. But do you at least respect him?

Pacquiao is my favorite fighter, but I am in no way a "Pacfan." Come on man, you obviously don't read any of my posts. I defend fighters when I feel like someone isn't giving them the credit they deserve.

When people would criticize Pavlik, I jump out and defend him, same thing when a Mayweather hater says something out of line, or Cotto as well. That would make me a pacfan, pavfan, mayfan, and a cottfan? Sorry man, I like boxing, and know no one is unbeatable. But I'm guessing calling someone a Pacfan is your way of showing me you're out of material.

Pac has nothing to lose fighting Hatton.

If Hatton KO's Pac,.. SO WHAT?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Pac has nothing to lose fighting Hatton.

If Hatton KO's Pac,.. SO WHAT?

---

At last we agree .

I agree with your point exactly. So what If Hattons knocks out Pac . So what . weve seen it done loads of times before. Its stilla decent fight though

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SE7EN

Pac has nothing to lose fighting Hatton.

If Hatton KO's Pac,.. SO WHAT?

---

At last we agree .

I agree with your point exactly. So what If Hattons knocks out Pac . So what . weve seen it done loads of times before. Its stilla decent fight though

---

Just incase you're wondering who neg repped you,..

IT WAS ME. ;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

This is more about GAME's dislike for Pac rather than his belief of Calzaghe. When someone can't respect someone who's done something that ALMOST MOST boxers can't say as in beating 3 future HOFers, winning titles in 3 weight divisions (going for 4), and the balls to say he wants to fight the best man two weight classes above him.

That's just ridiculous!

I hate Joe's way of fighting but I still respect him as a fighter.

---

GAME sees the p4p ranking this way...

1. Joe Calzaghe (cuz he just think he is)

2. Sven Ottke (slightly behind Calzaghe cuz he has many defenses and a 0 defeat also)

3. Rustico Torrecampo

4. Medgoen Singsurat

5. Chris John

6. Freddie Norwood

7. Javier Duran

8. Zahir Raheem

9. David Diaz

10. Junior Jones



Am I right GAME?

I'm not sure about Manny as P4P number 1. It's more out of convenience now than anything else, because all the P4P are either building up their records(Cotto Pavlik), have lost to other P4P fighters(Vazquez) ordon't have enough names just yet(JC). Manny is,imo, still living that admittedly amazing run when he was fighting MAB,Morales,JMM and destroying them. I don't think he has looked that great in his last few fights(although I thought he looked good v JMM when I first watched it,on second viewing, it was clear he slowed). David Diaz is aso-so fighter, decent at best. Unless Manny steps it up and soon,his reign at the top will be short lived.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

This is more about GAME's dislike for Pac rather than his belief of Calzaghe. When someone can't respect someone who's done something that ALMOST MOST boxers can't say as in beating 3 future HOFers, winning titles in 3 weight divisions (going for 4), and the balls to say he wants to fight the best man two weight classes above him.

That's just ridiculous!

I hate Joe's way of fighting but I still respect him as a fighter.

---

GAME sees the p4p ranking this way...

1. Joe Calzaghe (cuz he just think he is)

2. Sven Ottke (slightly behind Calzaghe cuz he has many defenses and a 0 defeat also)

3. Rustico Torrecampo

4. Medgoen Singsurat

5. Chris John

6. Freddie Norwood

7. Javier Duran

8. Zahir Raheem

9. David Diaz

10. Junior Jones



Am I right GAME?

---

junior jones at number 10, youve gotta be kidding me??

;D;D;D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

This is more about GAME's dislike for Pac rather than his belief of Calzaghe. When someone can't respect someone who's done something that ALMOST MOST boxers can't say as in beating 3 future HOFers, winning titles in 3 weight divisions (going for 4), and the balls to say he wants to fight the best man two weight classes above him.

That's just ridiculous!

I hate Joe's way of fighting but I still respect him as a fighter.

---

GAME sees the p4p ranking this way...

1. Joe Calzaghe (cuz he just think he is)

2. Sven Ottke (slightly behind Calzaghe cuz he has many defenses and a 0 defeat also)

3. Rustico Torrecampo

4. Medgoen Singsurat

5. Chris John

6. Freddie Norwood

7. Javier Duran

8. Zahir Raheem

9. David Diaz

10. Junior Jones



Am I right GAME?

---

junior jones at number 10, youve gotta be kidding me??

;D;D;D

---

Yeah, sure. According to GAME's logic, Why not?

He might be retired, but he defeated Barrera twice.

:confused:;D

Gamo .

I warn you and anyone who says Pac isnt number 1 p4p be prepared for the dirty scum to come and attack you in packs and hand out negative reps aswel as insulting pms. These losers take it all too seriously .

I never even bought Pac up yet they somehow manage to dirty every thread with their presence.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Hes beaten every guy he has ever fought . Hes been winning at world class for over a decade. He has beaten unbeaten champions and American legends.

Who else can match that record? Theres some decent up and comers but nobody whos reallt that proven. Cotto and Pav may be a threat in years to come but right now I cant see anyone who can tough Joe p4p .

---

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

---

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Actually GAME, you started it...

...people get attacked here when they say things and then can't back up their statements. You def started this whole thing..

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CFH

I think Pac's record matches and easily surpassed Calzaghe's.

---

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Actually GAME, you started it...

...people get attacked here when they say things and then can't back up their statements. You def started this whole thing..

---

Stating the truth isn't starting anything.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Preme

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Pacs been knocked out too many times by bums and his recent fights have been unimpressive

Marquez is another who has had close fights recently and it wasnt long ago Chris was beating him

who else ? Hopkins is getting on now. Vasquez was stopped aswel not too long ago so I cant see anyone who can match Joe or who is more deserving .

---

Actually GAME, you started it...

...people get attacked here when they say things and then can't back up their statements. You def started this whole thing..

---

Stating the truth isn't starting anything.

---

Thankyou Preme

Read back and youll see I never mentioned Pac . I said Joe was p4p number 1 . I never even mentioned Pac but cuz I left him off my list . thats when I started getting negative rep and abusive messages . FACT !

New Ring Mag ratings Boxing: Ratings :cool:

;D

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...wi/pacman2.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...wi/pacman1.jpg

Yeah baby!!!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by GAME

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Preme

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by caleoh12

Actually GAME, you started it...

...people get attacked here when they say things and then can't back up their statements. You def started this whole thing..

---

Stating the truth isn't starting anything.

---

Thankyou Preme

Read back and youll see I never mentioned Pac . I said Joe was p4p number 1 . I never even mentioned Pac but cuz I left him off my list . thats when I started getting negative rep and abusive messages . FACT !

---

I never neg repped you. Someone would really have to say something completely out of line for me to do such a thing. I admit I got pretty pissed off when you called me a "Pacfan." After that point, I was just upset.