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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
Bernard Dunne what a tough tough fighter great fight and im pleased for him i hope Cordoba is ok.
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
I think the ref did fine, its all very well complaining afterward but you cant always stop it. It could have been over in round 5 with a different victor if the ref stopped it after the other double knockdown.
Anyone know where you can find out the scorecards through 10, it would be interesting to see how they had it
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
Dunne did better than expected. Cordoba was/is a good fighter. Credit to Dunne for picking himself up after Martinez brutalized him.
With that being said it's disgrace to call Dunne a champion. It's a meaningless belt. Celestino Caballero is the true WBA champion. And that's not even debatable.
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
What an upset! Bernard proved me wrong... Congratz Bernard!!
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
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superheavyrhun
Quite looking forward to this one, but I think the difference here between Khan and Dunne is that Khan has really improved his defence to recover from his one-round sparking, and we're still not sure if Dunne has succeeded with that yet.
As for getting the title fight, a part of me thinks it should have gone to Munroe, but as Bilbo said, a good promoter and fan-pulling-power means more than results sometimes.
Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and he turned it down.
What should Dunne have said, "no thanks, I will wait till Munroe grows a pair and takes the fight".
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
Great upset win. Glad Dunne proved me wrong. I was surprised how regular he kept hurting Cordoba (i assume he is alright :-\). Dunne's loss to Martinez was just an unlucky blip considering how limited Martinez has looked since.
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
Some fight photos:
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090322/ca...a_tokpa801.jpg
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090322/ca...a_tokpa803.jpg
Ireland's Bernard Dunne, center, reacts after his victory over Panama's Ricardo Cordoba during the WBA Super-bantamweight title boxing bout at the O2 Arena in Dublin, Ireland, Saturday March 21, 2009.
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
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katiek
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superheavyrhun
Quite looking forward to this one, but I think the difference here between Khan and Dunne is that Khan has really improved his defence to recover from his one-round sparking, and we're still not sure if Dunne has succeeded with that yet.
As for getting the title fight, a part of me thinks it should have gone to Munroe, but as Bilbo said, a good promoter and fan-pulling-power means more than results sometimes.
Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and he turned it down.
What should Dunne have said, "no thanks, I will wait till Munroe grows a pair and takes the fight".
Where did you hear that? I haven't seen anything to that effect to be honest with you, and the Munroe camp did seem disappointed the shot had gone to Dunne rather than himself.
Either way, Dunne proved he warranted that shot.
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
From Youtube, part of Round 9, then Round 10 'til end of fight...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9fNUtWX1fs
Enjoy...
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
Cheer's Saddo, Irish eyes will be smiling, a cracking gutsy performance.
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
Superb fight and tremendous heart by both.
The smaller Irish weight classes know how to spoil us. McCauley vs Bassa, McGuigan vs Babrera and now Dunne vs Cordoba.
The momentum swung back and forth and the shots both absorbed in the fight were tremendous. Not a fight for the feint hearted. Knockdowns, cuts, lowblows the lot.
Superb atmosphere aswell. Well done Bernard.
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WelshDevilRob
Superb fight and tremendous heart by both.
The smaller Irish weight classes know how to spoil us. McCauley vs Bassa, McGuigan vs Babrera and now Dunne vs Cordoba.
The momentum swung back and forth and the shots both absorbed in the fight were tremendous. Not a fight for the feint hearted. Knockdowns, cuts, lowblows the lot.
Superb atmosphere aswell. Well done Bernard.
Well so far this year, I think this should be on the short list for FOTY.
Personally I liked JMM/Diaz more, but this was a phenomenal display of heart, had a great ebb and flow. You really can't ask for two fighters to do more in the ring, they left it all in there. What was the final tally 6 knockdowns?
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
I know it's off topic but how did Andy Lee do?
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I know it's off topic but how did Andy Lee do?
Middleweight contender Andy Lee (17-1, 13 KOs) won a ten round unanimous decision over Alexander Sipos (19-6-2, 9 KOs). Lee floored Sipos in round six and went on to win 99-91. Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
I've not watched the fight yet but it sounds like it was a great win for Bernard Dunne. Guess it shows that chinny guys can beat world champ's after all.
Dunne is on the most exciting fighters to watch out there imo and I think it's great for Ireland, surely of of boxings most passionate nations to have a real world class talent to cheer for. Can't wait for this to appear on the net in decent quality later!
Donny did you go in the end mate?
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
There's one true word that sums up the Dunne vs Cordoba WBA fight last night................................."AWESOME!" i was lucky enough to get a stream off me saddo mate Luke last night!What a fight it was.It had everything a classic fight should have.One of the best fights this year for sure.Well done Bernard you fought like a champ,you derserve the WBA mate.Great fight!!!
P.S,is anyone having trouble watching this fight on Youtube or is it just me,cos it wont play for me.............."TWAT!":mad:
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
I can't believe this....
He's not even the best superbentam in Ireland, ducking Monroe shamelessly....can't believe this.
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yvonne
P.S,is anyone having trouble watching this fight on Youtube or is it just me,cos it wont play for me.............."TWAT!":mad:
Try this video from another YouTube source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwy7z5I0HiI
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hitmandonny
I can't believe this....
He's not even the best superbentam in Ireland, ducking Monroe shamelessly....can't believe this.
It's hardly ducking someone when you have the opportunity to fight a much bigger fight.
Which ambitious fighter in the world would turn down a world title shot to fight a domestic rival?
Dunne did great, he's proved himself to be world class, he has a passionate fanbase and is great for Irish boxing.
You should be proud of him Donny.
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hitmandonny
I can't believe this....
He's not even the best superbentam in Ireland, ducking Monroe shamelessly....can't believe this.
Watch yourself, this has the sounds of hate.
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Bilbo
It's hardly ducking someone when you have the opportunity to fight a much bigger fight.
Which ambitious fighter in the world would turn down a world title shot to fight a domestic rival?
Dunne did great, he's proved himself to be world class, he has a passionate fanbase and is great for Irish boxing.
You should be proud of him Donny.
He's not world class or near it.
He ducked the Monroe fight for a long time before this came up, along time!
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boozeboxer
Watch yourself, this has the sounds of hate.
I'll openly admit I loathe Bernard Dunne
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Dunne vs Cordoba scorecard shocker
Dunne got KO he needed! | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
It seems dunne was way down on the scorecards
95-92, 96-91 and 97-90 :o
That was a robbery in the making. I had Dunne up by a point going into the eleventh but those score cards are disgusting
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Re: Dunne vs Cordoba scorecard shocker
Cool I wanted to know what the cards were and yes I agree that is a surprise. I had it 94-94 (5-4-1).
I can understand the 95-92 Cordoba as thats 6-4 and there were some close rounds but the other 2 scores are out of order imo. If anything youd expect those scores to be in favour of Dunne since it was in Ireland. Never heard of an away town cooking before ;D
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superheavyrhun
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katiek
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superheavyrhun
Quite looking forward to this one, but I think the difference here between Khan and Dunne is that Khan has really improved his defence to recover from his one-round sparking, and we're still not sure if Dunne has succeeded with that yet.
As for getting the title fight, a part of me thinks it should have gone to Munroe, but as Bilbo said, a good promoter and fan-pulling-power means more than results sometimes.
Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and he turned it down.
What should Dunne have said, "no thanks, I will wait till Munroe grows a pair and takes the fight".
Where did you hear that? I haven't seen anything to that effect to be honest with you, and the Munroe camp did seem disappointed the shot had gone to Dunne rather than himself.
Either way, Dunne proved he warranted that shot.
You guys seem to know little facts about this whole Dunne/Munroe/Cordoba issue, so let me enlighten you all with the facts.
Munroe was offered a career best purse to fight Dunne on 3 occasions and he turned it down.
He used the excuse that he did not want to fight in Ireland and he was the champion so why should he have to travel yet when he won the European title, Martinez gave him home advantage. Munroe then comes to Ireland to fight a part time taxi driver. Dunne has a contract with RTE so he could not fight outside of Ireland without RTE agreeing and they were not about to lose out to Sky Sports.
Frank Maloney admitted on Steve Bunces programme that Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and that they turned it down.
Richard Dobal, Ricardo Cordoba's manager, said that he had first offered the title shot to Munroe, then Matinez, and that Dunne was his 3rd choice. This interview is on RTE.ie website plus Irish Boxing.com
So you see Dunne did not duck Munroe, he did everything possible to get that fight but Maloney would not agree to it.
And for those of you saying Munroe should have got the title shot, he did get the chance, he just wouldn't take it!
So please get your facts in order before you make your idiot comments.
This post is mostly directed at HitmanDonny but I am also answering your question about Munroe being offered the world title shot. So it is his idiotic comments I am refering to, not yours!
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Originally Posted by
katiek
You guys seem to know little facts about this whole Dunne/Munroe/Cordoba issue, so let me enlighten you all with the facts.
Munroe was offered a career best purse to fight Dunne on 3 occasions and he turned it down.
He used the excuse that he did not want to fight in Ireland and he was the champion so why should he have to travel yet when he won the European title, Martinez gave him home advantage. Munroe then comes to Ireland to fight a part time taxi driver. Dunne has a contract with RTE so he could not fight outside of Ireland without RTE agreeing and they were not about to lose out to Sky Sports.
Frank Maloney admitted on Steve Bunces programme that Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and that they turned it down.
Richard Dobal, Ricardo Cordoba's manager, said that he had first offered the title shot to Munroe, then Matinez, and that Dunne was his 3rd choice. This interview is on RTE.ie website plus Irish Boxing.com
So you see Dunne did not duck Munroe, he did everything possible to get that fight but Maloney would not agree to it.
And for those of you saying Munroe should have got the title shot, he did get the chance, he just wouldn't take it!
So please get your facts in order before you make your idiot comments.
This post is mostly directed at HitmanDonny but I am also answering your question about Munroe being offered the world title shot. So it is his idiotic comments I am refering to, not yours!
If it was always so straightforward I'd take it on the chin, but promoters are second only to politicians in trying to make every shade of grey try to appear black or white.
For example Spain doesn't have the boxing heritage nor the fanbase to be able to offer the same kind of money as either Britain or Ireland, so Kiko coming to these shores isn't the equivalent of Munroe going to Ireland, the money isn't there in Spain for home fights to make sense. (There have been three Euro title fights in Spain since 2006.)
I don't entirely remember Maloney on the Buncey programme...was it something along the lines of keeping Munroe at Euro level for a few fights? In that case, it may have been Munroe moaning and his promoter holding him back.
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
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Originally Posted by
superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by
katiek
You guys seem to know little facts about this whole Dunne/Munroe/Cordoba issue, so let me enlighten you all with the facts.
Munroe was offered a career best purse to fight Dunne on 3 occasions and he turned it down.
He used the excuse that he did not want to fight in Ireland and he was the champion so why should he have to travel yet when he won the European title, Martinez gave him home advantage. Munroe then comes to Ireland to fight a part time taxi driver. Dunne has a contract with RTE so he could not fight outside of Ireland without RTE agreeing and they were not about to lose out to Sky Sports.
Frank Maloney admitted on Steve Bunces programme that Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and that they turned it down.
Richard Dobal, Ricardo Cordoba's manager, said that he had first offered the title shot to Munroe, then Matinez, and that Dunne was his 3rd choice. This interview is on RTE.ie website plus Irish Boxing.com
So you see Dunne did not duck Munroe, he did everything possible to get that fight but Maloney would not agree to it.
And for those of you saying Munroe should have got the title shot, he did get the chance, he just wouldn't take it!
So please get your facts in order before you make your idiot comments.
This post is mostly directed at HitmanDonny but I am also answering your question about Munroe being offered the world title shot. So it is his idiotic comments I am refering to, not yours!
If it was always so straightforward I'd take it on the chin, but promoters are second only to politicians in trying to make every shade of grey try to appear black or white.
For example Spain doesn't have the boxing heritage nor the fanbase to be able to offer the same kind of money as either Britain or Ireland, so Kiko coming to these shores isn't the equivalent of Munroe going to Ireland, the money isn't there in Spain for home fights to make sense. (There have been three Euro title fights in Spain since 2006.)
I don't entirely remember Maloney on the Buncey programme...was it something along the lines of keeping Munroe at Euro level for a few fights? In that case, it may have been Munroe moaning and his promoter holding him back.
But these are cold hard facts, that is what happened.Does anyone really believe that Dunne would duck Munroe and then take on Cordoba?
The point about Munroe not talking the fight in Dublin is that he would have got a career best payday and still turned it down, Dunne would have got way less money if he fought in England and he had contractual obligations in his way.
Maloney told Bunce that he turned down the Cordoba fight because he wanted Munroe to win a world title not just fight for one, translation : Maloney was basically saying that Dunne would lose and that he knew Munroe was not ready for a world title shot.
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
Ok, this is off-topic from the debate going on. but it's on topic for the thread.
I just saw the fight. What a throwback fight, a back and forth battle. Great heart and performances showed by both guys.
What did Cordoba in? he was assaulting Dunne in the 10th, looked pretty brutal, looked like it could have been it.
That left hook before the clinch in the 11th before the first knockdown really hurt Cordoba and even though he didn't go down he was finished from then on out.
First time I saw both fighters. grueling fight great performance by both.
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Cortez The Killer
Ok, this is off-topic from the debate going on. but it's on topic for the thread.
I just saw the fight. What a throwback fight, a back and forth battle. Great heart and performances showed by both guys.
What did Cordoba in? he was assaulting Dunne in the 10th, looked pretty brutal, looked like it could have been it.
That left hook before the clinch in the 11th before the first knockdown really hurt Cordoba and even though he didn't go down he was finished from then on out.
First time I saw both fighters. grueling fight great performance by both.
I'm guessing Cordoba punches himself out... totally tired and then caught with a good punch from Dunne...
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
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Originally Posted by
Cortez The Killer
Ok, this is off-topic from the debate going on. but it's on topic for the thread.
I just saw the fight. What a throwback fight, a back and forth battle. Great heart and performances showed by both guys.
What did Cordoba in? he was assaulting Dunne in the 10th, looked pretty brutal, looked like it could have been it.
That left hook before the clinch in the 11th before the first knockdown really hurt Cordoba and even though he didn't go down he was finished from then on out.
First time I saw both fighters. grueling fight great performance by both.
Fight analysis from a few writers who were ringside suggest it was a delayed reaction from the left hook coupled with Cordoba punching himself out.
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Re: Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba
This might be a little off-topic, but I thought the Enlish-language commentators were god-awful and extremely biased.
Great fight though.