Bernard Dunne vs. Ricardo Cordoba

[katiek]

Quite looking forward to this one, but I think the difference here between Khan and Dunne is that Khan has really improved his defence to recover from his one-round sparking, and we're still not sure if Dunne has succeeded with that yet.

As for getting the title fight, a part of me thinks it should have gone to Munroe, but as Bilbo said, a good promoter and fan-pulling-power means more than results sometimes.

Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and he turned it down.
What should Dunne have said, "no thanks, I will wait till Munroe grows a pair and takes the fight".

Where did you hear that? I haven't seen anything to that effect to be honest with you, and the Munroe camp did seem disappointed the shot had gone to Dunne rather than himself.

Either way, Dunne proved he warranted that shot.

You guys seem to know little facts about this whole Dunne/Munroe/Cordoba issue, so let me enlighten you all with the facts.

Munroe was offered a career best purse to fight Dunne on 3 occasions and he turned it down.
He used the excuse that he did not want to fight in Ireland and he was the champion so why should he have to travel yet when he won the European title, Martinez gave him home advantage. Munroe then comes to Ireland to fight a part time taxi driver. Dunne has a contract with RTE so he could not fight outside of Ireland without RTE agreeing and they were not about to lose out to Sky Sports.

Frank Maloney admitted on Steve Bunces programme that Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and that they turned it down.

Richard Dobal, Ricardo Cordoba's manager, said that he had first offered the title shot to Munroe, then Matinez, and that Dunne was his 3rd choice. This interview is on RTE.ie website plus Irish Boxing.com

So you see Dunne did not duck Munroe, he did everything possible to get that fight but Maloney would not agree to it.

And for those of you saying Munroe should have got the title shot, he did get the chance, he just wouldn't take it!

So please get your facts in order before you make your idiot comments.

This post is mostly directed at HitmanDonny but I am also answering your question about Munroe being offered the world title shot. So it is his idiotic comments I am refering to, not yours!

[superheavyrhun]

You guys seem to know little facts about this whole Dunne/Munroe/Cordoba issue, so let me enlighten you all with the facts.

Munroe was offered a career best purse to fight Dunne on 3 occasions and he turned it down.
He used the excuse that he did not want to fight in Ireland and he was the champion so why should he have to travel yet when he won the European title, Martinez gave him home advantage. Munroe then comes to Ireland to fight a part time taxi driver. Dunne has a contract with RTE so he could not fight outside of Ireland without RTE agreeing and they were not about to lose out to Sky Sports.

Frank Maloney admitted on Steve Bunces programme that Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and that they turned it down.

Richard Dobal, Ricardo Cordoba's manager, said that he had first offered the title shot to Munroe, then Matinez, and that Dunne was his 3rd choice. This interview is on RTE.ie website plus Irish Boxing.com

So you see Dunne did not duck Munroe, he did everything possible to get that fight but Maloney would not agree to it.

And for those of you saying Munroe should have got the title shot, he did get the chance, he just wouldn't take it!

So please get your facts in order before you make your idiot comments.

This post is mostly directed at HitmanDonny but I am also answering your question about Munroe being offered the world title shot. So it is his idiotic comments I am refering to, not yours!

If it was always so straightforward I'd take it on the chin, but promoters are second only to politicians in trying to make every shade of grey try to appear black or white.

For example Spain doesn't have the boxing heritage nor the fanbase to be able to offer the same kind of money as either Britain or Ireland, so Kiko coming to these shores isn't the equivalent of Munroe going to Ireland, the money isn't there in Spain for home fights to make sense. (There have been three Euro title fights in Spain since 2006.)

I don't entirely remember Maloney on the Buncey programme...was it something along the lines of keeping Munroe at Euro level for a few fights? In that case, it may have been Munroe moaning and his promoter holding him back.

[katiek]

You guys seem to know little facts about this whole Dunne/Munroe/Cordoba issue, so let me enlighten you all with the facts.

Munroe was offered a career best purse to fight Dunne on 3 occasions and he turned it down.
He used the excuse that he did not want to fight in Ireland and he was the champion so why should he have to travel yet when he won the European title, Martinez gave him home advantage. Munroe then comes to Ireland to fight a part time taxi driver. Dunne has a contract with RTE so he could not fight outside of Ireland without RTE agreeing and they were not about to lose out to Sky Sports.

Frank Maloney admitted on Steve Bunces programme that Munroe was offered the Cordoba fight and that they turned it down.

Richard Dobal, Ricardo Cordoba's manager, said that he had first offered the title shot to Munroe, then Matinez, and that Dunne was his 3rd choice. This interview is on RTE.ie website plus Irish Boxing.com

So you see Dunne did not duck Munroe, he did everything possible to get that fight but Maloney would not agree to it.

And for those of you saying Munroe should have got the title shot, he did get the chance, he just wouldn't take it!

So please get your facts in order before you make your idiot comments.

This post is mostly directed at HitmanDonny but I am also answering your question about Munroe being offered the world title shot. So it is his idiotic comments I am refering to, not yours!

If it was always so straightforward I'd take it on the chin, but promoters are second only to politicians in trying to make every shade of grey try to appear black or white.

For example Spain doesn't have the boxing heritage nor the fanbase to be able to offer the same kind of money as either Britain or Ireland, so Kiko coming to these shores isn't the equivalent of Munroe going to Ireland, the money isn't there in Spain for home fights to make sense. (There have been three Euro title fights in Spain since 2006.)

I don't entirely remember Maloney on the Buncey programme...was it something along the lines of keeping Munroe at Euro level for a few fights? In that case, it may have been Munroe moaning and his promoter holding him back.

But these are cold hard facts, that is what happened.Does anyone really believe that Dunne would duck Munroe and then take on Cordoba?
The point about Munroe not talking the fight in Dublin is that he would have got a career best payday and still turned it down, Dunne would have got way less money if he fought in England and he had contractual obligations in his way.

Maloney told Bunce that he turned down the Cordoba fight because he wanted Munroe to win a world title not just fight for one, translation : Maloney was basically saying that Dunne would lose and that he knew Munroe was not ready for a world title shot.

[Cortez The Killer]

Ok, this is off-topic from the debate going on. but it's on topic for the thread.

I just saw the fight. What a throwback fight, a back and forth battle. Great heart and performances showed by both guys.


What did Cordoba in? he was assaulting Dunne in the 10th, looked pretty brutal, looked like it could have been it.

That left hook before the clinch in the 11th before the first knockdown really hurt Cordoba and even though he didn't go down he was finished from then on out.


First time I saw both fighters. grueling fight great performance by both.

[XaduBoxer]

Ok, this is off-topic from the debate going on. but it's on topic for the thread.

I just saw the fight. What a throwback fight, a back and forth battle. Great heart and performances showed by both guys.


What did Cordoba in? he was assaulting Dunne in the 10th, looked pretty brutal, looked like it could have been it.

That left hook before the clinch in the 11th before the first knockdown really hurt Cordoba and even though he didn't go down he was finished from then on out.


First time I saw both fighters. grueling fight great performance by both.

I'm guessing Cordoba punches himself out... totally tired and then caught with a good punch from Dunne...

[katiek]

Ok, this is off-topic from the debate going on. but it's on topic for the thread.

I just saw the fight. What a throwback fight, a back and forth battle. Great heart and performances showed by both guys.


What did Cordoba in? he was assaulting Dunne in the 10th, looked pretty brutal, looked like it could have been it.

That left hook before the clinch in the 11th before the first knockdown really hurt Cordoba and even though he didn't go down he was finished from then on out.


First time I saw both fighters. grueling fight great performance by both.

Fight analysis from a few writers who were ringside suggest it was a delayed reaction from the left hook coupled with Cordoba punching himself out.

[CFH]

This might be a little off-topic, but I thought the Enlish-language commentators were god-awful and extremely biased.

Great fight though.