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I think they're even at the moment.
Both of their head-to-head fights were so close that they could've gone either way. I scored both as one-point Pac wins, but I wouldn't argue with anyone who scored both as Marquez victories.
Pacquiao accomplished more at 126/130 by beating Morales twice and dominating Barrera twice, whereas Marquez only has the 1 win over Barrera.
Marquez has faced tougher opposition in his last two fights, but Pacquiao has been more dominant.
If Pacquiao can beat Hatton, that will be more impressive than any of Marquez's wins, and will put Pac slightly ahead of Marquez again.
But there's only one way to settle this issue... get Pacquiao and Marquez in the ring a third time!
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brucelee
I've just noticed something.
"Who says JMM is number 1?"
Mexican (or mexican-american): JMM is numero uno!!!!
Filipinos: Pac is number 1!!!
The bandwagons (after Pac demolished DLH): Pac is number 1!!!
The bandwagons (after JMM destroyed Diaz): JMM (edited) is numero uno!!!
That sums it all.
I better trust Ring Magazine to do the decision of who's number 1.:cool:
Now that would be news to my Mother :o But great assumption
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
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brucelee
I've just noticed something.
"Who says JMM is number 1?"
Mexican (or mexican-american): JMM is numero uno!!!!
Filipinos: Pac is number 1!!!
The bandwagons (after Pac demolished DLH): Pac is number 1!!!
The bandwagons (after JMM destroyed Diaz): JMM (edited) is numero uno!!!
That sums it all.
I better trust Ring Magazine to do the decision of who's number 1.:cool:
Now that would be news to my Mother :o But great assumption
No, that would make you part of the bandwagon unless your mother can trace your origin to mexico.;D
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At this point, I still consider PAC as the current no. 1 P4P boxer. Starting from PAC-JMM rematch fight, PAC's win over JMM, David Diaz and Hoya is far greater achievement than JMM's win over Casa and Juan Diaz... So JMM didn't overtake PAC just yet...
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You are soo biased that you have not a valid opinion to your name. If Pac wasn't fighting, you wouldn't even watch boxing. Why the fuck would anyone care what you said??
Huh? I watched the fights last weekend, PAC wasn't in that card...
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Pacquiao quite rightly deserves to be considered as the p4p best even though many including myself think marquez deserved one if not both of the decisions when they fought.
Marquez leaps out into 2nd with only bhop, cotto and izzy taking up the chase
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PAC cannot even be considered p4p until he stops ducking Mighty Mike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJGxQOwgZ2c
here you can clearly see Mighty dominating his opponent in a much great fashion than PAC over ODLH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwaKUgKvMtE
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I picked JMM, but it's real close. I thought he won the Pac rematch, couple that with his last two fights trumping Pac's (revisionist or not, Diaz on the weekend was a much livelier opponent than Oscar) and I think JMM shades it. Pac beats Hatton and he's back on top.
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I'm with you killer, I can have nothing to do with any P4P list that does not include this Greek God.
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Beating a babyboy who never won a fight against active elite fighters doesn't mean you're the best in the world.
Beating David who struggled against Silverio Ortiz who was robbed in that fight in one of the worst robberies ever. Diaz also struggled vs. Montana in his previous fight and won a MD fight where Montana was able to tag him and push him around.
I don't even have to mention the ODLH thing that was just crazy to think ODLH could perform well at 147.
JMM has become the lineal champ not some title holder.
He beat the lineal champ in Joel and he beat the #2 rated guy by The Ring becoming the man in the div.
don't forget to mention that Diaz struggled against a shot Morales, and that Morales was basically robbed, the same shot Morales that Pacquiao stopped in 3 the fight right before, and how is Hatton on the list but not Cotto? seeing how Cotto is actually on the p4p list and Hatton is not
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boozeboxer
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SaddoBoxer
At this point, I still consider PAC as the current no. 1 P4P boxer. Starting from PAC-JMM rematch fight, PAC's win over JMM, David Diaz and Hoya is far greater achievement than JMM's win over Casa and Juan Diaz... So JMM didn't overtake PAC just yet...
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You are soo biased that you have not a valid opinion to your name. If Pac wasn't fighting, you wouldn't even watch boxing. Why the fuck would anyone care what you said??
Like me, Ring Magazine is soo biased since they still have PAC as P4P no. 1 as of March 1, 2009 even dumping their very own Golden Boy Promotions boxer, Juan Manuel Marquez to no. 2 spot only... Ring Mag is sooooo biased... From now on, I'll used their magazine pages as toilet paper for my dog... :lolhaha:
http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09101/ringmarch1613.jpg
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SaddoBoxer
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boozeboxer
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SaddoBoxer
At this point, I still consider PAC as the current no. 1 P4P boxer. Starting from PAC-JMM rematch fight, PAC's win over JMM, David Diaz and Hoya is far greater achievement than JMM's win over Casa and Juan Diaz... So JMM didn't overtake PAC just yet...
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You are soo biased that you have not a valid opinion to your name. If Pac wasn't fighting, you wouldn't even watch boxing. Why the fuck would anyone care what you said??
Like me, Ring Magazine is soo biased since they still have PAC as P4P no. 1 as of March 1, 2009 even dumping their very own Golden Boy Promotions boxer, Juan Manuel Marquez to no. 2 spot only... Ring Mag is sooooo biased... From now on, I'll used their magazine pages as toilet paper for my dog... :lolhaha:
http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09101/ringmarch1613.jpg
You would wipe your dog's ass.
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CFH
Just to do my part in debasing the legitimacy of this poll, I voted Hatton.
If I had to choose between Pac and JMM though, I would pick Pac.
This is your real thought or just the prediction for the 2nd may ? ;)
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CFH
Just to do my part in debasing the legitimacy of this poll, I voted Hatton.
If I had to choose between Pac and JMM though, I would pick Pac.
This is your real thought or just the prediction for the 2nd may ? ;)
Nah, I'm just being a jackass. Thus the debasing comment. I really hope Hatton beats the shit out of Pacquiao though.
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boozeboxer
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SaddoBoxer
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boozeboxer
You are soo biased that you have not a valid opinion to your name. If Pac wasn't fighting, you wouldn't even watch boxing. Why the fuck would anyone care what you said??
Like me, Ring Magazine is soo biased since they still have PAC as P4P no. 1 as of March 1, 2009 even dumping their very own Golden Boy Promotions boxer, Juan Manuel Marquez to no. 2 spot only... Ring Mag is sooooo biased... From now on, I'll used their magazine pages as toilet paper for my dog... :lolhaha:
http://xs537.xs.to/xs537/09101/ringmarch1613.jpg
You would wipe your dog's ass.
Nope... I got a very smart dog that's capable of wiping his own ass... The dog's name is ... you guess it right... "Pacman"... ;D
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Shane beating Margarito was more shocking
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This is real close 24 - 24 pac and Marquez. I must admit I thought there might have been a bit more Hopkins loving going on after he demolished Pavlik.
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Oh yeah Mick. Forgot about Valuev completely when making this list! Might restart it just to add him;)
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its JMM. sure he lost to pac but in a close decision but most felt JMM won. the both moved up to lightweight pac fought David Diaz who was stopped before by Holt and was just a paper champ. JMM fought the RING champ at lightweight and was the 1st to stop him. Pac went up in weight to fight Oscar at 147 which is a weight Oscar hasnt fought at in years and had already shown he was on the decline. JMM fought Juan Diaz who was one of the top lightweights today and in his prime and in his division. that makes JMM p4p 1 to me.
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rjj tszyu
This is real close 24 - 24 pac and Marquez. I must admit I thought there might have been a bit more Hopkins loving going on after he demolished Pavlik.
hops number 3 and for a guy approaching 44 thats pretty much unbelievable :o
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kingfrnk
its JMM. sure he lost to pac but in a close decision but most felt JMM won. the both moved up to lightweight pac fought David Diaz who was stopped before by Holt and was just a paper champ. JMM fought the RING champ at lightweight and was the 1st to stop him. Pac went up in weight to fight Oscar at 147 which is a weight Oscar hasnt fought at in years and had already shown he was on the decline. JMM fought Juan Diaz who was one of the top lightweights today and in his prime and in his division. that makes JMM p4p 1 to me.
Good post. I can agree with that.
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I voted for Pacman.It makes perfect sense to vote for him,for me it does anyhow.
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Put Pac or Marquez in with Sugar Shane . . . Then we'll see who the best is ;)
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rjj tszyu
There is quite a debate going on after Marquez's great win last night as to who is p4p no1 right now. I'll stick with Manny personally but I'll stick the Rings top 10 in the poll and you can vote for who you want.
If your no1 is not in the list I'll be interested to hear who it is!
There is really no debate. True knowledgeable Boxing fans have Marquez at number 1. Pacquiao groupies have him at number 1
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Even though i am a big Marquez fan and i felt he beat Pacquiao in the 2nd fight i believe he belongs at number 2.
No matter who i feel won the fight it doesn't change the final result which was Pacquiao by split decision.
That win for Pacquiao is what puts him at number 1.
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What's all with these crazy talks? What's all these "Pacquiao that", "Marquez this" nonsense?
Shame on the TS for not having Arnaoutis' name up there! :bat:
The "Mighty Mike" should the #1 p4p best fighter on the planet!
In fact I won't even cast my vote until his name is in the poll.
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Violent Demise
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rjj tszyu
There is quite a debate going on after Marquez's great win last night as to who is p4p no1 right now. I'll stick with Manny personally but I'll stick the Rings top 10 in the poll and you can vote for who you want.
If your no1 is not in the list I'll be interested to hear who it is!
There is really no debate. True knowledgeable Boxing fans have Marquez at number 1. Pacquiao groupies have him at number 1
I have Pac number 1. I'm certainly no Pac groupie I just think he is the best p4p fighter at the moment with the absence of PBF!
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rjj tszyu
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Violent Demise
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rjj tszyu
There is quite a debate going on after Marquez's great win last night as to who is p4p no1 right now. I'll stick with Manny personally but I'll stick the Rings top 10 in the poll and you can vote for who you want.
If your no1 is not in the list I'll be interested to hear who it is!
There is really no debate. True knowledgeable Boxing fans have Marquez at number 1. Pacquiao groupies have him at number 1
I have Pac number 1. I'm certainly no Pac groupie I just think he is the best p4p fighter at the moment with the absence of PBF!
Did you know "VD" stands for Venereal Desease?
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James_Teja
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rjj tszyu
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Violent Demise
There is really no debate. True knowledgeable Boxing fans have Marquez at number 1. Pacquiao groupies have him at number 1
I have Pac number 1. I'm certainly no Pac groupie I just think he is the best p4p fighter at the moment with the absence of PBF!
Did you know "VD" stands for
Venereal Desease?
I bet he hasnt heard that one before. :rolleyes:
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boozeboxer
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James_Teja
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rjj tszyu
I have Pac number 1. I'm certainly no Pac groupie I just think he is the best p4p fighter at the moment with the absence of PBF!
Did you know "VD" stands for
Venereal Desease?
I bet he hasnt heard that one before. :rolleyes:
LOL. He has it all the time. It went to his head already. ;D;D;D
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kingfrnk
its JMM. sure he lost to pac but in a close decision but most felt JMM won. the both moved up to lightweight pac fought David Diaz who was stopped before by Holt and was just a paper champ. JMM fought the RING champ at lightweight and was the 1st to stop him. Pac went up in weight to fight Oscar at 147 which is a weight Oscar hasnt fought at in years and had already shown he was on the decline. JMM fought Juan Diaz who was one of the top lightweights today and in his prime and in his division. that makes JMM p4p 1 to me.
JMM Can't be the #1 P4P coz he haven't avenge his loss to Chris John. Why he keep on asking for Pac? Pac already beat him twice. How about for once ask John for a rematch so he can clear his name? Pac give him a rematch right? Now John's calling JMM, will he give him a rematch?
Four times dropped on the Floor against Pac? You mean that guy ahead of the guy who recently KOed DLH? Wake up guys... Juan Diaz was already exposed by Campbell. JMM just did what he supossed to do. Beat a good guy who some limitation(power). If JMM beat PBF, then you guys have the right to call him #1. But for the mean time Pac is the MAN!
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kingfrnk
its JMM. sure he lost to pac but in a close decision but most felt JMM won. the both moved up to lightweight pac fought David Diaz who was stopped before by Holt and was just a paper champ. JMM fought the RING champ at lightweight and was the 1st to stop him. Pac went up in weight to fight Oscar at 147 which is a weight Oscar hasnt fought at in years and had already shown he was on the decline. JMM fought Juan Diaz who was one of the top lightweights today and in his prime and in his division. that makes JMM p4p 1 to me.
JMM Can't be the #1 P4P coz he haven't avenge his loss to Chris John. Why he keep on asking for Pac? Pac already beat him twice. How about for once ask John for a rematch so he can clear his name? Pac give him a rematch right? Now John's calling JMM, will he give him a rematch?
Four times dropped on the Floor against Pac? You mean that guy ahead of the guy who recently KOed DLH? Wake up guys... Juan Diaz was already exposed by Campbell. JMM just did what he supossed to do. Beat a good guy who some limitation(power). If JMM beat PBF, then you guys have the right to call him #1. But for the mean time Pac is the MAN!
You are a rice munching peasant. Of course, Chris John should be no 1.
