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I was searching for a technical term but that one fits ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
That couldn't be more right lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
After having a great second round, everything went down hill for Mosley and he lost the last 10 rounds clearly.
Props to Floyd for taking control of the fight after the tough 2nd round/
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Originally Posted by PugilisticThat couldn't be more right lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
After having a great second round, everything went down hill for Mosley and he lost the last 10 rounds clearly.
Props to Floyd for taking control of the fight after the tough 2nd round/
pretty easy to do when the other guy is dead tired...
I don't think Mosley was tired that early to be honest, he may of been but give Floyd his props.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by PugilisticThat couldn't be more right lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
After having a great second round, everything went down hill for Mosley and he lost the last 10 rounds clearly.
Props to Floyd for taking control of the fight after the tough 2nd round/
pretty easy to do when the other guy is dead tired...
Alot of fighters would of folded under those shots, or would of at least took a few rounds to get going again but not Floyd.
He took it to Shane in the 3rd and it shocked him imo.
Mosley almost had him, if only he could have stepped back and avoided the constant grappling from Floyd and let the hands really go. Ah well, wasn't to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinFuck, I never noticed how bad that 2nd shot was, it was right clean on the temple, how did he stay up from that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
You have to give credit to Floyd for that. He took them and came right back, he never looked to get away, he walked straight back towards Shane and fired back at him. I was just watching the replay, and you could actually see the shock on Shane's face when he was punching him back in the last 30 seconds of that round.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesMosley almost had him, if only he could have stepped back and avoided the constant grappling from Floyd and let the hands really go. Ah well, wasn't to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinFuck, I never noticed how bad that 2nd shot was, it was right clean on the temple, how did he stay up from that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
The few times i've seen Floyd Mayweather Jr stunned, he seems to comeback very quickly. I think he has amazing recovering abilites from what i've seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinYou have to give credit to Floyd for that. He took them and came right back, he never looked to get away, he walked straight back towards Shane and fired back at him. I was just watching the replay, and you could actually see the shock on Shane's face when he was punching him back in the last 30 seconds of that round.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesMosley almost had him, if only he could have stepped back and avoided the constant grappling from Floyd and let the hands really go. Ah well, wasn't to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
It frustrates me, but yeah, Floyd does deserve his credit. He didn't wilt like Hatton against Pac. He showed smarts and worked his way through the adversity.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinYou have to give credit to Floyd for that. He took them and came right back, he never looked to get away, he walked straight back towards Shane and fired back at him. I was just watching the replay, and you could actually see the shock on Shane's face when he was punching him back in the last 30 seconds of that round.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesMosley almost had him, if only he could have stepped back and avoided the constant grappling from Floyd and let the hands really go. Ah well, wasn't to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
JonesJrMayweather and I have had our fair share of disagreements. But he's undoubtedly right in my opinion here. Shane looked lethargic the whole fight. everyone hoping or picking Shane to win thought the Shane of old would come back. 10 Years ago Shane had the stamina, combination punching to give Floyd all he could handle.
Where as you are just a hater. I have yet to see you give him any credit what so ever. The man deserves credit. Even after this fight Mosley could have easily destroyed Margarito in the same fashion and every would be saying Mosley is incredible. Bottomline is Floyd put on a clinic and destroyed the man. Stop hating and just give him some credit. The hating is getting real old.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherYou have your head so far up floyd's ass you have nothing but shit coming out of your pores. Everything you say is Floyd is god this and that...Maybe you can go watch the fight in slow motion, jerk off to floyd and ellerbe in the corner, then maybe once you get the baby batter off your brain you can see that shane was gassed before floyd started to do anything of significance..Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethThe fight I went to. Mayweather did far more than Hopkins did against Jones and he landed way more effective punches than he even did against Juan Manuel Marquez. Floyd really gave a beating to Mosley and him a lot of times with punches that looked like they bothered Mosley.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
I guess it was to be expected the haters would say Mosley was old. If Pac was to fight Mosley first he would be god though.
the real question should be
If Mosley would have hit Pacquiao with the same shots he hurt Floyd with in the 2nd round, would Manny of gotten KTFO?!?
IMO yes
Dumbass check the consistency of my posts since I've been a member in regards to floyd. In fact check my user name moron. How easy is it for everyone to say "hater" nowadays? If youre not sucking my dick on command then "youre a hater"... Idiots...Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018Where as you are just a hater. I have yet to see you give him any credit what so ever. The man deserves credit. Even after this fight Mosley could have easily destroyed Margarito in the same fashion and every would be saying Mosley is incredible. Bottomline is Floyd put on a clinic and destroyed the man. Stop hating and just give him some credit. The hating is getting real old.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherYou have your head so far up floyd's ass you have nothing but shit coming out of your pores. Everything you say is Floyd is god this and that...Maybe you can go watch the fight in slow motion, jerk off to floyd and ellerbe in the corner, then maybe once you get the baby batter off your brain you can see that shane was gassed before floyd started to do anything of significance..Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
I guess it was to be expected the haters would say Mosley was old. If Pac was to fight Mosley first he would be god though.
Bottom line, idont care who it would have been in the ring on saturday night...38 years old+over 400 days of inactivity+overtraining=serious fatigue. I guess after you digest the floyd semen you might be able to see clearly that shane who has never had an issue with conditioning was tired from the first bell...
You have issues dude ;D
i thought we were talking about mayweather mosley round #2?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I still don't buy completely into the notion that Mayweather adapted and that's what stumped Mosley. Mosley really looked to have suddenly become a shot fighter as soon as the bell went to signify the end of round 2. Nazeem told him at the end of round 1 that he needed to loosen up, but the heat of round 2 seemingly burned up all that nervous energy that Mosley obviously had. He was spent and from that point on looked a weary and old fighter. There was nothing in him to be sustained.
I think the overtraining idea might have significance, that along with the age and long layoff and Mosley was clearly not who he had once been. Again I will say that Floyd deserves some credit, but after going through the fire in round 2 he found himself against a fighter who had nothing left from then on out.
Thing is Mosley has always been like that. His style has always been jittery and he has always moved his hands and always seemed to have buggy whip punches off of reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
The difference is when he hurt someone they would backoff and he could chase them down. No one has made Shane fight at their pace. If you make Mosley fight at your pace it's a problem for him.
Even against Margarito, he didn't press a fight to make Shane work harder then he wanted to. Floyd by coming forward and making Shane work in that final minute is what got Shane.
if Floyd had backed off and spent the rest of the round in survival mode, Mosley would have gathered himself and started chasing. But Mayweather instead pressed the action and made Shane work to close that round so much so that Mosley himself had to back off even though he was the one who hurt Floyd. Even Shane admitted that he thought he had Mayweather and played into his hands and once Mayweather adjusted, he couldn't.
Mayweather is the cause of a lot of things that cause him to beat another fighter. For instance..
Point: If Oscar had kept jabbing like he did early he'd have beaten Floyd.
Reason: He stopped jabbing because Floyd had adapted and started countering it
Point: If Judah had fought like the first 3 rounds the whole fight he'd have beaten Floyd.
Reason: He stopped doing it because Floyd found him out and started turning it on after fighting conservative for the early going.
Point: If Mosley had fought the way he did in the 2nd round for every round he'd have won, or if he didn't get tired after it.
Reason: He got tired because after trying to stop Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted and didn't give him a chance to get hie energy back by pressuring him and keeping him on the backfoot from then on. Taking the pace away from Shane.
The reason there are "if x fighter did this he'd have won" are because Mayweather takes what made it effective away from them.
This is what I mean by blinded from being teabagged by floyd....Shane was tired before he even landed the big shots on floyd.He was breathing with his mouth open half way through the first round. He looked old from the start of the fight and even said "I just couldn't pull the trigger like I wanted to"...Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyThing is Mosley has always been like that. His style has always been jittery and he has always moved his hands and always seemed to have buggy whip punches off of reaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
The difference is when he hurt someone they would backoff and he could chase them down. No one has made Shane fight at their pace. If you make Mosley fight at your pace it's a problem for him.
Even against Margarito, he didn't press a fight to make Shane work harder then he wanted to. Floyd by coming forward and making Shane work in that final minute is what got Shane.
if Floyd had backed off and spent the rest of the round in survival mode, Mosley would have gathered himself and started chasing. But Mayweather instead pressed the action and made Shane work to close that round so much so that Mosley himself had to back off even though he was the one who hurt Floyd. Even Shane admitted that he thought he had Mayweather and played into his hands and once Mayweather adjusted, he couldn't.
Mayweather is the cause of a lot of things that cause him to beat another fighter. For instance..
Point: If Oscar had kept jabbing like he did early he'd have beaten Floyd.
Reason: He stopped jabbing because Floyd had adapted and started countering it
Point: If Judah had fought like the first 3 rounds the whole fight he'd have beaten Floyd.
Reason: He stopped doing it because Floyd found him out and started turning it on after fighting conservative for the early going.
Point: If Mosley had fought the way he did in the 2nd round for every round he'd have won, or if he didn't get tired after it.
Reason: He got tired because after trying to stop Mayweather, Mayweather adjusted and didn't give him a chance to get hie energy back by pressuring him and keeping him on the backfoot from then on. Taking the pace away from Shane.
The reason there are "if x fighter did this he'd have won" are because Mayweather takes what made it effective away from them.
There is no evidence in the history shane mosley to suggest that he backs off when engaged regardless of what the other fighter is doing. He still went forward against winky, vernon, oscar, mayorga, vargas....5 guys who all hit much harder than PBF.
tired and fatique = "can't pull the trigger like I wanted to"
"You ain't boxed before Larry, you have to be in the gym or in the ring to understand what I'm talking right now" - RJJJ
Floyd really impressed me in the fight. He took a few very solid shots and managed to stay on his feet, holding on is simply the experience you'd hope a fighter would have after 40 fights.
Floyds legs did look wobbly when he tried to march back, but even if Mosley got the knockdown, I think the result would have been the same, Mayweather would have simply gahered his breath and continued boxing.
Mayweather is incredibly consistant, he picks a tactic and then does that more or less for 12 rounds and as his opponent slows, he opens up a bigger lead through being consistant. Whether his style is enough to wear Pacman out is another story.
I think Mosley did well, you have to credit him for rocking Mayweather and trying to fight his own style, but his style was like a poor mans Floyd.
Mosley did look out of gas from round 3 onwards, which at first seems amazing seeing he probably trained for 15 rounds, but the thing to remember is how Floyd's style wears you out. When boxing tense, it takes so much more out of you. There wasn't one point where Mosley looked relaxed and was constantly expending energy in blocking or hugging.
Well done Floyd, but you are still a dick.
I am not the one trying to force my negative opinion down peoples throat.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherDumbass check the consistency of my posts since I've been a member in regards to floyd. In fact check my user name moron. How easy is it for everyone to say "hater" nowadays? If youre not sucking my dick on command then "youre a hater"... Idiots...Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018Where as you are just a hater. I have yet to see you give him any credit what so ever. The man deserves credit. Even after this fight Mosley could have easily destroyed Margarito in the same fashion and every would be saying Mosley is incredible. Bottomline is Floyd put on a clinic and destroyed the man. Stop hating and just give him some credit. The hating is getting real old.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
I guess it was to be expected the haters would say Mosley was old. If Pac was to fight Mosley first he would be god though.
Bottom line, idont care who it would have been in the ring on saturday night...38 years old+over 400 days of inactivity+overtraining=serious fatigue. I guess after you digest the floyd semen you might be able to see clearly that shane who has never had an issue with conditioning was tired from the first bell...
No proffesional sportsman who has trained for that long should be tired after two round, regardless of age.
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Originally Posted by 0james0
Are you Shannon Briggs?
Great win for Floyd great job no bullshit about Shane too old, looked his age etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
But I watched the fight 4 times now...2 things I noticed and will be called a nuthugger for but anyhow...
Floyd can not keep the pace Pacquiao can...Manny fights 1 speed fast and sometimes faster...He hits with bad intentions...His speed is better then Floyds....
2. Floyd ever gets in trouble with Manny there is no time to recoup....
3. Floyd started to show some of his age
That's the dumbest shit written all week. You obviously have never trained for anything on any level...Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
funny though that everyone's blaming Shane's weak stamina on his age, yet a 46 yr old (at the time) shot Evander Holyfield despite having his skills completely diminished had enough stamina to be able to go the distance with sasquatchQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherThat's the dumbest shit written all week. You obviously have never trained for anything on any level...Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesfunny though that everyone's blaming Shane's weak stamina on his age, yet a 46 yr old (at the time) shot Evander Holyfield despite having his skills completely diminished had enough stamina to be able to go the distance with sasquatchQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherThat's the dumbest shit written all week. You obviously have never trained for anything on any level...Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
Funny that all fighters don't age the same the way.
Shane didn't gas, thats absolute foolishness.
Mayweather made the necessary adjustments and with his lightning counters, totally limited Shane's output just like he does to all his opponents. Instead of standing upright like he did when he got caught, he was stepping back and countering. Shane knew this.
Why is it so hard for some to believe that its not as easy as just standing in front of a guy like Floyd and throwing hands? Floyd flustered him and muscled him, end of story.
Mosley gassed after 2 rounds? If you believe that then I don't know what to say to ya.
You can watch shane breathing with his mouth open in round three, to anyone that's ever done anything that requires aerobic or anaerobic conditioning that is a sure sign that they're tired....All floyd did was exploit it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Shane was doing exactly what brother Naz was telling him between rounds STOP LOOKING FOR THE BIG PUNCH!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Shane continued to do so...He hoped he would get it...But sadly NO!!
dude you honestly have to calm the fuck down, you're getting to Xadu or Taeth levels now just cause no one is agreeing with you, Shane looked fine, and was gassed after Floyd started beating on him basically from the 3rd on, don't see why you're acting like his stamina was always great, hell people were even commenting on his stamina issues before the fight, Mayweather beat the shit out of a willing and able Shane Mosley, simple as, now get off your high horse thinking that your feeble opinion is the only valid oneQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesfunny though that everyone's blaming Shane's weak stamina on his age, yet a 46 yr old (at the time) shot Evander Holyfield despite having his skills completely diminished had enough stamina to be able to go the distance with sasquatchQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Funny that all fighters don't age the same the way.
Just ignore him and he might go away...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdude you honestly have to calm the fuck down, you're getting to Xadu or Taeth levels now just cause no one is agreeing with you, Shane looked fine, and was gassed after Floyd started beating on him basically from the 3rd on, don't see why you're acting like his stamina was always great, hell people were even commenting on his stamina issues before the fight, Mayweather beat the shit out of a willing and able Shane Mosley, simple as, now get off your high horse thinking that your feeble opinion is the only valid oneQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Funny that all fighters don't age the same the way.
I just rewatched highlights of the fight - Look at round 7 when Mosley is trying his utmost to pressure Floyd, throw shots, feint etc He looked pretty active and energetic to me. He is just being countered to SHIT which gave him the jitters which made him tense which in turn probably made him a little more tired than usual BUT more importantly, limited his output.
Mosley was ready and willing as Elterrible has said. He just wasn't able because Floyd outclassed him. But hey almost everyone here disagreeing with you and calling it how they saw it are "huggers" right :rolleyes:
No, you have just gone a step above.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherThat's the dumbest shit written all week. You obviously have never trained for anything on any level...Quote:
Originally Posted by 0james0
Are you telling me that a pro player of any sport, especially after training as hard and calculated as boxers do for so long is acceptable to be gasping for breath after a sixth of the match, when he is probably winning?
The equivilent to fading after 15 minutes in football?
Of course not, because that is why they are professionals and we are not. They should be conditioned enough to last a bit at least. It wasn't as if Floyd had hit him with bombs much at that stage. Floyd is good, but he shouldn't have you gasping after 2 rounds.
If he remains a professional he should be fit enough, if not, he should be retired.
Everyone will agree with that.
You clearly have low expectations of a proffesional on any level
I wasn't even saying Mosley ran out in round 2, I was just saying that was not an acceptable excuse.
He ran out about round 5. ;)
I think Mosely is not at the peak of his game but he is a strong boxer with plenty of speed, stamina and skill. He was well prepared for the fight and in good shape.
He got beat because Floyd beat him.
Even at the end of round 2 Floyd had started coming forward again. He didn't start that in round 3. Heart and skill.
From round 3 on, Floyd walked Shane down, hit him, and befuddled him with his speed. Mosely doing all that nervous movement pretending to feint but never even getting Floyd to take the bait. Floyd didn't fight the boxer; he fought his fight and imposed it on Mosely. Going forward.
Mosely did not "get old" on this night. He'd have beat most anyone else. But he was in with Floyd.
Some of you folks just have to credit Shane with losing (for various reasons) in order to avoid crediting Floyd with winning.
sound pretty silly doing it, too.
Everyone agreeing means nothing to me..everyone on here agreed Margarito was a world beater that would destroy mosley on his way to floyd too. Everyone on here couldn't believe Margarito kicked the shit out of Cotto so when he was caught before the fight mosley everyone was like "oooooh no wonder"...because floyd cries about not getting credit everyone is sensitive about giving him credit now.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzJust ignore him and he might go away...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdude you honestly have to calm the fuck down, you're getting to Xadu or Taeth levels now just cause no one is agreeing with you, Shane looked fine, and was gassed after Floyd started beating on him basically from the 3rd on, don't see why you're acting like his stamina was always great, hell people were even commenting on his stamina issues before the fight, Mayweather beat the shit out of a willing and able Shane Mosley, simple as, now get off your high horse thinking that your feeble opinion is the only valid oneQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
I just rewatched highlights of the fight - Look at round 7 when Mosley is trying his utmost to pressure Floyd, throw shots, feint etc He looked pretty active and energetic to me. He is just being countered to SHIT which gave him the jitters which made him tense which in turn probably made him a little more tired than usual BUT more importantly, limited his output.
Mosley was ready and willing as Elterrible has said. He just wasn't able because Floyd outclassed him. But hey almost everyone here disagreeing with you and calling it how they saw it are "huggers" right :rolleyes:
I've seen all of both their fights, and mosley has never gassed that early, and floyd wasn't doing anything special to cause it..yeah he won a wide UD...and 6 billion people could agree it still wont change these hard facts
SHANE was coming off the longest inactivity in his whole career+he's 38+and he was already training for a fight with berto which lead to possibly over training...
Credit to Floyd, it was an outstanding performance after getting rocked heavily in that 2nd round. Mosley was gone by the 3rd and was pretty predictable from then on in. Also have to give credit to Mosley for staying in there to the final bell, many would have quit but his heart of a Lion prevailed.
I can only help wonder what what would have happened if that was Manny Pacquiao in that situation with Floyd hurt in the 2nd round.
One thing for sure: Moseley left a blue print about how to beat Mayweather and what not to do in order to keep your chances of winning it. I hope that Roach took notes and that Manny has the skills to follow the blueprint.
...and no doubt that his nose hadn't healed correctly and he was poisoned by the ink from his new tattoo...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherEveryone agreeing means nothing to me..everyone on here agreed Margarito was a world beater that would destroy mosley on his way to floyd too. Everyone on here couldn't believe Margarito kicked the shit out of Cotto so when he was caught before the fight mosley everyone was like "oooooh no wonder"...because floyd cries about not getting credit everyone is sensitive about giving him credit now.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlthugzJust ignore him and he might go away...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I just rewatched highlights of the fight - Look at round 7 when Mosley is trying his utmost to pressure Floyd, throw shots, feint etc He looked pretty active and energetic to me. He is just being countered to SHIT which gave him the jitters which made him tense which in turn probably made him a little more tired than usual BUT more importantly, limited his output.
Mosley was ready and willing as Elterrible has said. He just wasn't able because Floyd outclassed him. But hey almost everyone here disagreeing with you and calling it how they saw it are "huggers" right :rolleyes:
I've seen all of both their fights, and mosley has never gassed that early, and floyd wasn't doing anything special to cause it..yeah he won a wide UD...and 6 billion people could agree it still wont change these hard facts
SHANE was coming off the longest inactivity in his whole career+he's 38+and he was already training for a fight with berto which lead to possibly over training...
funny as fuck seeing how i already had posted all the lame bullshit excuses you just said in an earlier post, stating all the bullshit that a moron like you or Xadu would actually spit out :-X
What do you mean by gone?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rascal
Whatever helps you hold your mayweather blankie at night..by the way werent you a serious Margarito guy at one point? The only reason one would mention that maybe shane is too old is because HE IS OLD...dumbass...even floyd called him old on 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales...and no doubt that his nose hadn't healed correctly and he was poisoned by the ink from his new tattoo...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherEveryone agreeing means nothing to me..everyone on here agreed Margarito was a world beater that would destroy mosley on his way to floyd too. Everyone on here couldn't believe Margarito kicked the shit out of Cotto so when he was caught before the fight mosley everyone was like "oooooh no wonder"...because floyd cries about not getting credit everyone is sensitive about giving him credit now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
I've seen all of both their fights, and mosley has never gassed that early, and floyd wasn't doing anything special to cause it..yeah he won a wide UD...and 6 billion people could agree it still wont change these hard facts
SHANE was coming off the longest inactivity in his whole career+he's 38+and he was already training for a fight with berto which lead to possibly over training...
funny as fuck seeing how i already had posted all the lame bullshit excuses you just said in an earlier post, stating all the bullshit that a moron like you or Xadu would actually spit out :-X
i'm not a nutthugger of any fighter dude, my favorite fighter was Morales and i'd even call his BS when it was justifiable, and no i was never big on Margarito, i was impressed with his wins over Cintron and Cotto but well that pretty much all went to doubt once he was exposed as a cheat, Floyd beat a willing and able Mosley, get over it, stop cryingQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherWhatever helps you hold your mayweather blankie at night..by the way werent you a serious Margarito guy at one point? The only reason one would mention that maybe shane is too old is because HE IS OLD...dumbass...even floyd called him old on 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales...and no doubt that his nose hadn't healed correctly and he was poisoned by the ink from his new tattoo...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
funny as fuck seeing how i already had posted all the lame bullshit excuses you just said in an earlier post, stating all the bullshit that a moron like you or Xadu would actually spit out :-X
As you knew how the fight would plan out, Mosley had his chance, blew it and the rest of the fight would be Mayweather dominating, and that was exactly the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherWhat do you mean by gone?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rascal