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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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generalbulldog
Just out of curiosity who was the culprit that sad clicked you that many times?
Anyways this place needs an extreme leftwing commie liberal, just to balance the extreme rightwing redneck rants of Lyle. You and Lyle are like the yin and yang of this place. We can't do with both of you leaving.
It was Youngblood. He is a guy that I respect, but I would respect him more if he would debate with me rather than run around with a mouse.
In terms of manners me and Lyle are twins, but in terms of ideology we are political opposites.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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miles
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CFH
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El Kabong
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CFH
If you're going to start topics and continually post controversial opinions on issues which people feel strongly about, you can't be surprised when some people get upset. I don't see why you'd leave over it. If it bothers you that much, do what I did when and just ignore those types of threads.
These 'poor me, goodbye' goodbye threads are fucking weak. Nobody ever actually leaves after they make one.
....Dang and that's coming from a Canadian!
Well, it's fucking true. Posters take all kinds of flak for posting all kinds of things and they rarely leave because of it. The motive behind every single one of these types of threads that I have seen isn't to actually announce a persons leaving, it's to solicit responses from other members encouraging the person that they have to stay and how great they are and blah blah blah. I'm not going to do that.
I like Miles, I like talking about boxing and music and a million other things with him. He's a valued, long-time poster and I hope he remains (as I suspect he will), but the forum won't die without him. I've been here for over 4 years now, a thousand people have come and gone in that time, and I can count one one hand the number of individuals whose leaving has been truly detrimental to this site.
Miles: I hope you decide to stick around, but you need to relax. Get high, get laid, take some pills or whatever, but just relax. Talking about politics (or in your case incessantly arguing about Israel and America with the same 4 or 5 posters) on a motherfucking boxing forum is nothing to get genuinely upset about. Neither are sad clicks. If you want to talk politics and be taken seriously, why not find a political forum where a large number of people actively debate these types of issues? I'm sure there are a million of them out there and perhaps you would find the types of discussion you are seeking there.
You are right, most people start "I'm leaving" threads to garner a response. I didn't though. I was really angry. As soon as I started a thread about Israel I got 30 sad clicks. It made me question myself. Am I so extreme that it has come to this? "I don't think I am extreme, but the clicks won't stop coming". Maybe I should exterminate myself?
Anyway, thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it. You are one of the forum members here who make me think. And that is always a good thing.
I'm glad you've decided to stick around Miles.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
Just out of curiosity who was the culprit that sad clicked you that many times?
Anyways this place needs an extreme leftwing commie liberal, just to balance the extreme rightwing redneck rants of Lyle. You and Lyle are like the yin and yang of this place. We can't do with both of you leaving.
Ahem...
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Originally Posted by
miles
My final point is that I don't think I have controversial views. My views on subjects such as Israel are not controversial. Is it not a fact that Israel has built on 42%of the land illegally taken since 1967? My views on this are not controversial, Israel's actions are the controversy.
Most of your views, the ones you've expressed on here at least, don't strike me as all that radical (aside from the Yuri Foreman episode), but they way you present them at times has a tendency to rub some people the wrong way and that (IMO) tends to make them appear more extreme, or at least more rigid and thus pointless to debate (the English teacher in you must love the structure of that last sentence :p).
I'm hardly a fan or a supporter of the Israeli state, and I'm a strong advocate of the needs for Palestinian rights and restitution. However, while I may disagree with the other side of the argument, I can appreciate the perspectives of those who hold contrary beliefs and I respect their reasons for doing so, even if I disagree with them.
That is something, in my experience with you at least, that you seem hesitant or unwilling to do in these types of discussions and I think that could be where the problem lies. It's not uncommon for people to act that way when they feel passionately about something, but in my experience it tends to stifle legitimate debate and leads to hostility and anger on all sides.
Plus, it is a bit exasperating to see the same topic drudged up over and over again. I think that plays a role in all this as well.
I hope that doesn't come across as harsh or anything, it's just my $0.02 on the whole situation.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
Welcome back you big daft bender. ;D
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Originally Posted by
miles
I was seriously dead set on leaving and not coming back. Honestly, I was quite upset because I see myself as an everyman who isn't particularly radical (but who does have an interest in current affairs). I started a thread on the UN report about the assasination of the flotilla members and then suddenly I was swamped by about 30 sad clicks. All I was doing was starting a thread that I thought would generate some interest. My political threads usually generate a fair degree of curiosity. We see this in the amount of participation in them and this one brought the last one to a certain conclusion. I must admit that I thought it was Bilbo on the rampage. He is the only one who goes at me for these kinds of things and it just seemed like him. However, it wasn't. Bilbo is one of my favourite posters here, so I actually feel a bit bad thinking it was down to him.
Otherwise, I seem to have actually made a difference to the site in erasing sad clicks. I actually have no beef with sad clicks and think that they are justified. However, I think sad clicking someone 30 times in 5 minutes is really nasty. More so if the person is a veteran with over 18000 posts to their name. If you have an issue with them, then why not get into the thread and debate with them?
Some of you have been mean in this thread and others have been really nice. For those who have been nice, I thank you. And I thank Saddo too because I was quite hurt and his responses made me realise that I was able to come back.
The number is quite high. I'll give you that. But when you really look into them, how many of those 18,000 posts were actually non-garbage? Ah ha! See what I see? Your status on the forum is almost Kid Thunder like.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
lol yup, was me. but likely not for the reasons anyone thought. I was having a laugh with the flawed system. Was not a target on miles at all, he just happened to be there as a convenience when I began my plan. Which ultimately would have been...to hit up miles...have him freak...then give those back...then hit up Bilbo...and have him come back and lose the plot...and generally fuck with the system and the people and start a sand in peoples manginas about reps, clicks and that sorta stuff bruhaha. I figured not only could this place use a little drama...but the end result once we factored bilbo in...could be nothing but hahalarious. Btw...if anyone found themselves suddenly going up 10 or 15 reps in about 1 min...guess who. So it wasn't just about sad clicks. ;)
What I didn't expect was miles reaction. Anyway...these are 2 PMs I sent yesterday, to both Saddo and miles letting them know it was me.
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ya know boss
I was just trying to have some fun with miles. he's been quite uptight lately with the Israel stuff and was telling folks how they should work the click system, and I did that in about 3 mins, the sad clicks...was just going to give them right back as pos after a lil bit, but the poor guy flipped and up and ran off before i had chance to do anything. And to be honest, it made me LMAOOOO. But I didn't do it in spite...
Sorry for messing with your system, but you're right, at current it was only a matter of time.
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sup miles
listen bud, that was me that nailed you with all those sad clicks. but i didn't do it in spite. I was having a laugh and going to just give them back as positive shortly afterwards. to be honest I noticed you were kinda up tight with the Israel hate lately and all, and my guess, prob things that run much deeper, and in my own twisted way thought i could somehow get a rise out of you and have some fun. maybe even get you to lower your guard a bit when all was said and done. it wasn't meant to be malicious nor do I have any ill will. I like you as all here at Saddos do.
I noticed the flaw in the system and planned on exploiting it...and it just happened to be you there when i did. So yea...figured you should know. Now get your ass back. Lyle had some good advice, which is to take a few days off from here..but I suggest even more if possible...as in take a few days off from the internet period. If not today or tomorrow, soon. I found it can be something that we get too attached too, and a push away a times helps us clear our heads and realize how much the words on it are insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
But love you buddy, and again, sorry for that. I didn't expect that reaction, or I never would have done that.
So come back soon.
So everyone cool now? Peace love and cool clicks? :toff:
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Violent Demise
So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.
:lolhaha:
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.
Ouch. That gotta hurt.;D
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.
You are so uncool!
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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0james0
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Violent Demise
So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.
You are so uncool!
Yeah!....if only there was some mechanism in which we could display how uncool he is :scratchchin:....some kind of "uncool button" which you could "click" and that would make him feel "sad", we would need to have some kind of "Sad Click Button" and if we had that we just might be able to curb his uncoolness by using behavioral psychology punishing him for "uncool" remarks and rewarding him for his "cool" remarks.
.......but we can't have that now because miles and Youngblood have gone and FUCKED IT ALL UP FOR EVERYONE....oh way to fucking go....bravo :appl::appl: I hope you're proud of yourselves for being such jerks.
Saddo I think as a proper punishment for this childish and idiotic stunt everyone should be allowed to sad click miles and Youngblood as much as they want for a week just to teach them a lesson....who's with me?
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Lyle your one funny fucker! ;D ... VD your just plain brutal!!
Its always so much worse when there's two of em...
Miles your gonna have to grow a beard for this one mate :x
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
Youngblood, go outside, if thats how you get amusement you are a silly goose. Miles, kind of pussy reacton to sad clicks, man up. Really who gives a fuck about a sad click? Omg I only have one cool click, wtf is wrong with me I'm outta here fuck this place.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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0james0
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Violent Demise
So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.
You are so uncool!
That's it. I'm outta here.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
0james0
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.
You are so uncool!
That's it. I'm outta here.
What The FUK! no red button! :mad:
Hang on Ill pick a daisy:
Green stay .red fuk off, green stay, red fuk off , green stay, red fuk off ,green stay, red fuk off , green, Ahh stay!
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Andre
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
0james0
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.
You are so uncool!
That's it. I'm outta here.
What The FUK! no red button! :mad:
Hang on Ill pick a daisy:
Green stay .red fuk off, green stay, red fuk off , green stay, red fuk off ,green stay, red fuk off , green, Ahh stay!
What else am I suppose to do? He said I wasn't cool
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
For sure, I think I overreacted, but I am not someone used to being attacked for no good reason. I got all of those sad clicks as soon as I started a thread about Israel commiting criminal acts and I just thought "screw this, I'm a good man trying to tell something for what it is and start a little debate, and all I ever do is go to war over it and get dragged through the mud". I was half expecting the sad clicks to come along with the usual "miles, I think you are an anti semite!" comments.
I just got the red mist and flipped out. What happened happened and I have chilled out. If it were to happen again I would probably react differently. It's no big deal, YB played a joke and the forum got a bit of gossip. For those who really miss the sadclicks (namely VD, Lyle and Andre) I am sorry, but there is no good reason to be able to cool and sad click someone without limits.
In response to VD's comment about a grown man being reduced to tears by a kid. It isn't that simple. I was pissed off rather than crying and half expecting base insults to come along with the clicks. You try having an interest in a topic and then for people to say that interest only boils down to anti semitism. That can piss you off a bit, especially when it simply is not true and is used simply as a way to deflect an argument. However, this wasn't the case and I misread the situation. It was YB having a laugh. I didn't know that at the time. If I had known then I would obviously have reacted differently. Amat neg repped me twice in a row, but told me about it immediately. I was fine with that.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
All I can is one thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzG7bBylRo
Blame Canada! Blame Canada! I also blame Canada for giving the wold Justin Bieber! Blame Canada!
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Originally Posted by
CFH
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
CFH
If you're going to start topics and continually post controversial opinions on issues which people feel strongly about, you can't be surprised when some people get upset. I don't see why you'd leave over it. If it bothers you that much, do what I did when and just ignore those types of threads.
These 'poor me, goodbye' goodbye threads are fucking weak. Nobody ever actually leaves after they make one.
....Dang and that's coming from a Canadian!
Well, it's fucking true. Posters take all kinds of flak for posting all kinds of things and they rarely leave because of it. The motive behind every single one of these types of threads that I have seen isn't to actually announce a persons leaving, it's to solicit responses from other members encouraging the person that they have to stay and how great they are and blah blah blah. I'm not going to do that.
I like Miles, I like talking about boxing and music and a million other things with him. He's a valued, long-time poster and I hope he remains (as I suspect he will), but the forum won't die without him. I've been here for over 4 years now, a thousand people have come and gone in that time, and I can count one one hand the number of individuals whose leaving has been truly detrimental to this site.
Miles: I hope you decide to stick around, but you need to relax. Get high, get laid, take some pills or whatever, but just relax. Talking about politics (or in your case incessantly arguing about Israel and America with the same 4 or 5 posters) on a motherfucking boxing forum is nothing to get genuinely upset about. Neither are sad clicks. If you want to talk politics and be taken seriously, why not find a political forum where a large number of people actively debate these types of issues? I'm sure there are a million of them out there and perhaps you would find the types of discussion you are seeking there.
don't you think his absence would qualify as one of those few?
further, some people have brought up my name that I left one of these gay-I;m-leaving-threads: I want to clarify that I said I would be gone for three months to study for an examination (which I did, which I passed!).
Miles I can understand your frustration however.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Andre
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
0james0
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
So lets see if I got this straight. A 13, 14 year old kid pretty much reduced 40 + year old man, who's married and is a school teacher to tears and sent him packing from a boxing forum cuz he told him "your not cool" a bunch of times. Just when I thought I seen it all.
You are so uncool!
That's it. I'm outta here.
What The FUK! no red button! :mad:
Hang on Ill pick a daisy:
Green stay .red fuk off, green stay, red fuk off , green stay, red fuk off ,green stay, red fuk off , green, Ahh stay!
What else am I suppose to do? He said I wasn't cool
this thread is awesome. Is it any wonder we had to bail some asses out in war?
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Originally Posted by
miles
For sure, I think I overreacted, but I am not someone used to being attacked for no good reason. I got all of those sad clicks as soon as I started a thread about Israel commiting criminal acts and I just thought "screw this, I'm a good man trying to tell something for what it is and start a little debate, and all I ever do is go to war over it and get dragged through the mud". I was half expecting the sad clicks to come along with the usual "miles, I think you are an anti semite!" comments.
I just got the red mist and flipped out. What happened happened and I have chilled out. If it were to happen again I would probably react differently. It's no big deal, YB played a joke and the forum got a bit of gossip. For those who really miss the sadclicks (namely VD, Lyle and Andre) I am sorry, but there is no good reason to be able to cool and sad click someone without limits.
In response to VD's comment about a grown man being reduced to tears by a kid. It isn't that simple. I was pissed off rather than crying and half expecting base insults to come along with the clicks. You try having an interest in a topic and then for people to say that interest only boils down to anti semitism. That can piss you off a bit, especially when it simply is not true and is used simply as a way to deflect an argument. However, this wasn't the case and I misread the situation. It was YB having a laugh. I didn't know that at the time. If I had known then I would obviously have reacted differently. Amat neg repped me twice in a row, but told me about it immediately. I was fine with that.
I dont really care mate.
All them sad clicks happened because someone who can remain unnamed, went on a Sad click war on me for backing someone he was at war with. So being like water I changed direction and turned the whole lot into sad clicks and collected them instead.
Its called disarming through care factor 0. :lickish:
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
Is anyone else disturbed by that naked fat chick? I wouldn't touch her fat ass with a stick! Oh yeah and don't go miles you're debating thread will just go to pot! :)
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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mattboxingfan
Is anyone else disturbed by that naked fat chick? I wouldn't touch her fat ass with a stick! Oh yeah and don't go miles you're debating thread will just go to pot! :)
Mate your still only what 13?
Wait a few years and you will not only love to fuck her but more than likely fart on your face. ;)
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
Ok, so let's get this straight.
I've been offline for a week and only came back today.
For some reason Miles quit the forum because he thought I ran him off by giving him anonymous sadclicks for creating yet another post about Israel, that I hadn't even seen? ;D
Also, when did the sad clicks come back??? I wasn't even aware we had them until today when I logged in and I got notified that I had three cool post ratings. All excited I clicked the link only to be told the rating I got for each was 'bad', whatever that meant.
Anyway are we all back to normal now? Miles you are coming dangerously close to losing the plot mate :p I've not even been online and somehow you have created a feud between us in your head. ;)
I know you're not anti-semitic, I mean you have told us in every anti Israel thread you have made, but it is bizarre that you are now falling out with me, because I represent in your eyes some kind of pro Jewish menace or something. :-\
Anyway we're all cool mate I think, I've never sad clicked you or anyone else, or handed out any neg rep for that matter.
I only have the internet now for about 2 days a week and believe me I spend all of those precious hours on grabbing as much porn as I can to last me through the next week, and absolutely don't have time to be starting vendetta's against long time posters on here!
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Bilbo
Ok, so let's get this straight.
I've been offline for a week and only came back today.
For some reason Miles quit the forum because he thought I ran him off by giving him anonymous sadclicks for creating yet another post about Israel, that I hadn't even seen? ;D
Also, when did the sad clicks come back??? I wasn't even aware we had them until today when I logged in and I got notified that I had three cool post ratings. All excited I clicked the link only to be told the rating I got for each was 'bad', whatever that meant.
Anyway are we all back to normal now? Miles you are coming dangerously close to losing the plot mate :p I've not even been online and somehow you have created a feud between us in your head. ;)
I know you're not anti-semitic, I mean you have told us in every anti Israel thread you have made, but it is bizarre that you are now falling out with me, because I represent in your eyes some kind of pro Jewish menace or something. :-\
Anyway we're all cool mate I think, I've never sad clicked you or anyone else, or handed out any neg rep for that matter.
I only have the internet now for about 2 days a week and believe me I spend all of those precious hours on grabbing as much porn as I can to last me through the next week, and absolutely don't have time to be starting vendetta's against long time posters on here!
Disagreeing with Israel's political decisions and actions is very different than being plainly anti-semitic, Bilbo.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
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Nameless
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
Ok, so let's get this straight.
I've been offline for a week and only came back today.
For some reason Miles quit the forum because he thought I ran him off by giving him anonymous sadclicks for creating yet another post about Israel, that I hadn't even seen? ;D
Also, when did the sad clicks come back??? I wasn't even aware we had them until today when I logged in and I got notified that I had three cool post ratings. All excited I clicked the link only to be told the rating I got for each was 'bad', whatever that meant.
Anyway are we all back to normal now? Miles you are coming dangerously close to losing the plot mate :p I've not even been online and somehow you have created a feud between us in your head. ;)
I know you're not anti-semitic, I mean you have told us in every anti Israel thread you have made, but it is bizarre that you are now falling out with me, because I represent in your eyes some kind of pro Jewish menace or something. :-\
Anyway we're all cool mate I think, I've never sad clicked you or anyone else, or handed out any neg rep for that matter.
I only have the internet now for about 2 days a week and believe me I spend all of those precious hours on grabbing as much porn as I can to last me through the next week, and absolutely don't have time to be starting vendetta's against long time posters on here!
Disagreeing with Israel's political decisions and actions is very different than being plainly anti-semitic, Bilbo.
But choosing to make every thread you start an anti Israel one at least suggests you don't like them much no?
It's clear as day for everyone to see that nothing winds Miles up more than the people of Israel. He's created about 50 threads, and now even left the forum over them!
I just saw his latest thread, about the flotilla. I'm still looking for his thread on the North Koreans who torpedo'ed and killed 5 times as many of his own countryman at the same time.
Miles is more concerned about a few armed 'peace activists' who were shot in self defence whilst attempting to beat several IDF soldiers to death than he is about his own Korean neighbours who were killed by the North Korean despot.
I'm not saying he can't post his threads, and they don't bother me, but you can't keep posting only on one subject and then protest when it's suggested you don't like them much.
I can't think of any other instance where one poster has singled out a particular group or person for so long and not been seen as a hater.
But it's all good. As I always point out to Miles, the Jews win in the end.;)
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
The flotilla thread was one that sparked debate, particularly between you and me. You were adament that Israel was in the right and just knocking off a few terrorists, I disagreed with you.
The findings of the U.N. have sided with my side of the argument suggesting that Israel commited assasinations, including that of one US citizen. It was a show of force, carefully planned and designed to let future flotilla know what the consequences would be if they tried to go against the IDF.
North Korea is a terrible issue. However, it isn't even cut and dry whether North Korea even attacked the ship. A sizeable segment of the South Korea population even thinks Lee Myong Park was behind it in an attempt to bolster his popularity in time for elections. I'm not sure I totally buy this either though. There simply aren't enough credible facts to understand really what happened. This is in marked contrast to the flotilla.
The main difference between North Korea and Israel is that it doesn't have illegal expansionist ambitions and actually has UN sanctions placed upon it. This doesn't excuse the evil of its regime which is evil and IMO far worse than Saddam ever was. However the west simply wouldn't have any resources to exploit. My point is basically that Iraq got sanctions then regime change. North Korea gets sanctions with no sign of regime change, despite people being HEAVILY repressed. Israel is free to flout international rule with the constant backing of US support whilst the Palestinians continue to be Heavily repressed. See the differences?
For sure, it is an issue that I find fascinating. How does a country manage to commit so many crimes and yet always get bailed out by the worlds superpower. It doesn't matter how bad the crime is. The recent peace negotiations saw America request that settlements stop being built for a further 2 months. In return the US would give military aid, complete unquestioned support at the UN for another year etc. Now why should Israel be granted International impunity just for stopping the building of what are clearly illegal settlements? This is what I find interesting. It is a strange, warped relationship.
This is an area that I have only really started to get interested in in the last 3 years or so and for sure, I am very interested in it's continual evolution. If other interesting stories come up then I will be sure to say something and if it's Israel being the big, bad bully then I will likely point it out (as that is usually the case and there is nothing anti-semitic in pointing that out).
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
I always miss the good shit :p So what do we do about sc's or neg rep or just expressing out dislike for someone haha? This is sort of like the public schools taking the "F" out of the grade system as to not make the little kids feel like losers...or failures ;D We need the red number back.....a scarlet letter of suckery and a battle scar. Miles are you back from leaving yet...didnt you make one of these goodbye things last month ;D
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I always miss the good shit :p So what do we do about sc's or neg rep or just expressing out dislike for someone haha? This is sort of like the public schools taking the "F" out of the grade system as to not make the little kids feel like losers...or failures ;D We need the red number back.....a scarlet letter of suckery and a battle scar. Miles are you back from leaving yet...didnt you make one of these goodbye things last month ;D
You give them neg rep. I am not actually against sad clicks as in how they existed before, but I do disagree with unlimited amounts of sad clicks from one person per day. That is not just a battle scar, that is a flagrant abuse of the system.
Last month was just to announce I was going on holiday whence I would be quiet, this time I just got pissed off.
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I always miss the good shit :p So what do we do about sc's or neg rep or just expressing out dislike for someone haha? This is sort of like the public schools taking the "F" out of the grade system as to not make the little kids feel like losers...or failures ;D We need the red number back.....a scarlet letter of suckery and a battle scar. Miles are you back from leaving yet...didnt you make one of these goodbye things last month ;D
You give them neg rep. I am not actually against sad clicks as in how they existed before, but I do disagree with unlimited amounts of sad clicks from one person per day. That is not just a battle scar, that is a flagrant abuse of the system.
Last month was just to announce I was going on holiday whence I would be quiet, this time I just got pissed off.
He's an angry man. And he should be. I mean look at the outrageous and constant offences of the expansionist Jews with their landmass already almost the size of Wales. Yet they still try protect and expand their borders to guard strategic locations. I mean sure they are surrounded on all sides by Arab nations who hate them and whose official foreign policy is their total destruction but it doesn't excuse their behaviour.
Of course America and Britain occupy these foreign lands in order to protect their own citizens from these menaces, but they clearly pose no threat to Israel.
By the way Miles, did you read about that trojan worm that the Jews allegedly uploaded onto Iran's nuclear facilities computers last week?
Great stuff, espionage and counter terrorism at it's best :cool:
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As VD said, a grown man that is 30+ years old, is married and a school teacher, threatened to leave a forum because he got sad click a bunch of times from a 14 or 15 year old Canadian kid.
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Re: Goodbye N.S.F.W (sorry Milo I've posted a Plumper pic in your thread - from Big H
Im 16 now mudderfukkers and even got my license. Already wrote off my first car too. Well was my gf's car, but i wrote that piece of shit off. lol
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Im 16 now mudderfukkers and even got my license. Already wrote off my first car too. Well was my gf's car, but i wrote that piece of shit off. lol
I'm really fucking glad I live 4,000 miles from you.
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I always miss the good shit :p So what do we do about sc's or neg rep or just expressing out dislike for someone haha? This is sort of like the public schools taking the "F" out of the grade system as to not make the little kids feel like losers...or failures ;D We need the red number back.....a scarlet letter of suckery and a battle scar. Miles are you back from leaving yet...didnt you make one of these goodbye things last month ;D
You give them neg rep. I am not actually against sad clicks as in how they existed before, but I do disagree with unlimited amounts of sad clicks from one person per day. That is not just a battle scar, that is a flagrant abuse of the system.
Last month was just to announce I was going on holiday whence I would be quiet, this time I just got pissed off.
Fair enough Miles. Personally I hope ya stick around. You have passion,cant knock that. Have to say and no one asked you can go over board with the broad brush at times but something has to be said about taking speaking ones mind. When you insist on standing upon a high perch you have to know some will love to kick you in the shins repeatedly. Dont let them see ya sweat.....ecspecially if they are from Canada ;D
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I always miss the good shit :p So what do we do about sc's or neg rep or just expressing out dislike for someone haha? This is sort of like the public schools taking the "F" out of the grade system as to not make the little kids feel like losers...or failures ;D We need the red number back.....a scarlet letter of suckery and a battle scar. Miles are you back from leaving yet...didnt you make one of these goodbye things last month ;D
You give them neg rep. I am not actually against sad clicks as in how they existed before, but I do disagree with unlimited amounts of sad clicks from one person per day. That is not just a battle scar, that is a flagrant abuse of the system.
Last month was just to announce I was going on holiday whence I would be quiet, this time I just got pissed off.
He's an angry man. And he should be. I mean look at the outrageous and constant offences of the expansionist Jews with their landmass already almost the size of Wales. Yet they still try protect and expand their borders to guard strategic locations. I mean sure they are surrounded on all sides by Arab nations who hate them and whose official foreign policy is their total destruction but it doesn't excuse their behaviour.
Of course America and Britain occupy these foreign lands in order to protect their own citizens from these menaces, but they clearly pose no threat to Israel.
By the way Miles, did you read about that trojan worm that the Jews allegedly uploaded onto Iran's nuclear facilities computers last week?
Great stuff, espionage and counter terrorism at it's best :cool:
It is irrelevant how big their alloted land mass was. That is no excuse for the Israeli elite to implement illegal expansionist/colonial policies. They didn't need to build settlements, but they chose to do it because they knew the international community wouldn't be able to do anything. The UN is feeble today and bears similarity to the league of nations prior to WW2. If a member is able to go rogue with immoral veto's then nothing gets done. Whence sanctions on those states which are deemed bad by America and nothing gets done to those America will turn a blind eye to. You can't tell me that every country in the world bar America, Australia and a few relatively obscure countries are willfully hoping for the destruction of the Israeli state? Could it not simply be that Israel in recent years has been increasingly commiting war crimes in the region? Like I keep saying, I am fine with Israel's existence, but I am not fine with the blatant mistreatment of the Palestians who essentially have few freedoms or rights. In contrast, I am not fine with North Korea's continued existence. Does that mean I actually hate Koreans? Of course it doesn't. But I do loath states who abuse their power in immoral and unjust ways. And that's why America gets criticised too. Okay, the people in America are relatively free and can say what they want (despite being heavily indoctrinated) and that is cool. But what isn't cool are the invasions and supported coups against democratically elected governments around the world. I don't hate Americans. I tend to like them. The common theme here is power and the associated abuse and corruption of that power.
You make the point that Israel's neighbors hate them, but that is too one sided. Don't the people of Gaza have good reason to be rather upset by what the Israeli's did in 2008? Don't the people of Lebanon have a reason to distrust the Israeli's considering the assault on Hezbollah in 2006? Okay, Ahminejad likes to spout rhetoric about Israel, but at the same time it is Israel with a strong military, nuclear weapons and who was right at the forefront when comparing Saddam with Hitler. And who is once again drumming up the case for war? You guessed it....Israel! Of course, the region can't stand the type of state that Israel has become. You are painting it as one sides hate, but like I say, it is far more complex.
Yes, I've read about that virus, but I'm not really sure what to make of it. It's not a story I have really looked at in depth. I haven't read that Israel was involved though and thought it was found in other countries first. How do we know the Israeli's used this to attack Iran? See I'm not ready to jump on Israel at every move, as in this instance I just don't know.
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I always miss the good shit :p So what do we do about sc's or neg rep or just expressing out dislike for someone haha? This is sort of like the public schools taking the "F" out of the grade system as to not make the little kids feel like losers...or failures ;D We need the red number back.....a scarlet letter of suckery and a battle scar. Miles are you back from leaving yet...didnt you make one of these goodbye things last month ;D
You give them neg rep. I am not actually against sad clicks as in how they existed before, but I do disagree with unlimited amounts of sad clicks from one person per day. That is not just a battle scar, that is a flagrant abuse of the system.
Last month was just to announce I was going on holiday whence I would be quiet, this time I just got pissed off.
Fair enough Miles. Personally I hope ya stick around. You have passion,cant knock that. Have to say and no one asked you can go over board with the broad brush at times but something has to be said about taking speaking ones mind.
When you insist on standing upon a high perch you have to know some will love to kick you in the shins repeatedly. Dont let them see ya sweat.....ecspecially if they are from Canada ;D
I've made myself look a bit of a girl with this incident, but in a way I am glad it happened. I have taken it all on board and learned from it. I see no reason to dilute what I say because at the end of the day, what I say is what I truly feel. So, I will post as I always have. However, I will show a thicker skin against anyone who tries to criticise me or deflect my arguments with nonsense about ant semitism.
I watched a documentary about Norman Finkelstein the other day called "The trials of Norman Finkelstein" and on the whole I found it very interesting. I had my little tantrum the other day, but watching this documentary really put it all into context. This is an expert on the region who has really been put through the grill because of his criticisms of the Israeli state. The documentary shows his detractors outright calling him an anti semite, that he is full of identity issues and racked with self loathing etc. All this for taking apart the books of those who tell lies about Israel and for showing an Israel that the media all too often chooses to stay quiet on. Alan Dershowitz, a notorious Zionist fraudster, even set up a malicious campaign to stop Finkelstein gaining tenure at a university and led to him having to resign. Finkelstein even got banned from Israel for 10 years for his views.
Anyway, it made me realise that my little trials and tribulations here are nothing when put against that kind of nastiness. I will remain as I always do, but no more threats to leave. My biggest issue with the string of sad clicks is that I thought it was someone who chose to do that rather than openly debate with me. That to me was the ultimate act of cowardice. I would never do that to anyone else, run from a debate and leave a string of sadlclicks. A real man should have the courage of his convictions and debate it out. To sad click someone 30 times isn't only a joke, to me it is a serious sign of disrespect and the anonymity bugged me. It could have been anyone in ninja mode and I actually thought it was Bilbo and that thought annoyed me too. But it wasn't him.
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I worry about getting robbed and shot in the face on the way to my car. The ultimate sad click. Hope it works out and you make the keyboard deviant pay a price and show him justice. wow.
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Ok, so let's get this straight.
I've been offline for a week and only came back today.
For some reason Miles quit the forum because he thought I ran him off by giving him anonymous sadclicks for creating yet another post about Israel, that I hadn't even seen? ;D
Also, when did the sad clicks come back??? I wasn't even aware we had them until today when I logged in and I got notified that I had three cool post ratings. All excited I clicked the link only to be told the rating I got for each was 'bad', whatever that meant.
Anyway are we all back to normal now? Miles you are coming dangerously close to losing the plot mate :p I've not even been online and somehow you have created a feud between us in your head. ;)
I know you're not anti-semitic, I mean you have told us in every anti Israel thread you have made, but it is bizarre that you are now falling out with me, because I represent in your eyes some kind of pro Jewish menace or something. :-\
Anyway we're all cool mate I think, I've never sad clicked you or anyone else, or handed out any neg rep for that matter.
I only have the internet now for about 2 days a week and believe me I spend all of those precious hours on grabbing as much porn as I can to last me through the next week, and absolutely don't have time to be starting vendetta's against long time posters on here!
Disagreeing with Israel's political decisions and actions is very different than being plainly anti-semitic, Bilbo.
But choosing to make every thread you start an anti Israel one at least suggests you don't like them much no?
It's clear as day for everyone to see that nothing winds Miles up more than the people of Israel. He's created about 50 threads, and now even left the forum over them!
I just saw his latest thread, about the flotilla. I'm still looking for his thread on the North Koreans who torpedo'ed and killed 5 times as many of his own countryman at the same time.
Miles is more concerned about a few armed 'peace activists' who were shot in self defence whilst attempting to beat several IDF soldiers to death than he is about his own Korean neighbours who were killed by the North Korean despot.
I'm not saying he can't post his threads, and they don't bother me, but you can't keep posting only on one subject and then protest when it's suggested you don't like them much.
I can't think of any other instance where one poster has singled out a particular group or person for so long and not been seen as a hater.
But it's all good. As I always point out to Miles, the Jews win in the end.;)
It doesn't necessary shows that he hates the Jews as they are Jews but that he has a strong disdain for their international politics and that it is something he has at heart. When you look at all the problems that the Israel Gov is generating, I can only agree with Miles that their behaviors are quite frankly unacceptable. However, I do agree with you though that he did perhaps exaggerate on the number of topics on the same variation, guess Mile's a bit passionate when he's seriously happy/angry ;)