Fury is a joke.

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Stop being mean to Fury.

This is a negotiation ploy to get the best terms possible for him. Haye should be thankful an honoured that Fury will be fighting him as he is in position to fight for a world title and Haye is some where behind. Tyson Fury is fighting on channel 5 which means he has millions following him.

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Oh you mean that well known boxing powerhouse broadcaster (that's free) channel 5?

Because all the greats started their careers with the aim to be terrestrial television fighters!?!?



Channel 5 is for the shit fighters of the divisions of British boxing! Fact.

It's for the fighters that are decent, simply because the best go to sky or BN

Haye does sky, fury does channel 5
Price does sky/BN, fury does channel 5
Groves does sky, DeGale does channel 5
BJS and Ryder do sky, Eubank Jr does channel 5


Who the fuck would pay £15 to watch Fury vs Cunningham?



Haye has had 1 fight to Furys 6 fights since Haye v Wlad.

And in that one fight he probably made more money and sold out more seats than fury did in his entire 6 shitfests.

Take your 80/20 split and shove it up your poo chute!

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Who at heavy has Haye beaten that is any more dangerous than Furys opponents?

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I'm not really sure who is doing that, but it has nothing to do with the fight in any case. This doesn't boil down to merits either way, its just the most lucrative fight for both men. The difference is Fury can't win and that is what will stop it from happening if anything.

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Hahahahaha!

Ae you taking the piss? :vd:

That was the one fighter in the division that could make an ancient Holyfield look good!;D

Thats the best you can come up with and now the realisation that you've all been mugged;D:LOLATYOU:

Haye should call fury's bluff and go for winner takes all.Apart from the deluded, nobody thinks fury will take a big punch at top level.

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Hahahahaha!

Ae you taking the piss? :vd:

That was the one fighter in the division that could make an ancient Holyfield look good!;D

Thats the best you can come up with and now the realisation that you've all been mugged;D:LOLATYOU:

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Are you? Seriously, is every single thing you post just to troll:confused: We have all been mugged, good lord. Did your mother tap into the Fury family gene pool, is that why you are so emotionally invested here?

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Haye should call fury's bluff and go for winner takes all.Apart from the deluded, nobody thinks fury will take a big punch at top level.

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Still no different to Haye then;)

For fuck sakes, Haye got dropped by cruisers and a super middle!

Barrett dropped him;D

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Hahahahaha!

Ae you taking the piss? :vd:

That was the one fighter in the division that could make an ancient Holyfield look good!;D

Thats the best you can come up with and now the realisation that you've all been mugged;D:LOLATYOU:

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Are you? Seriously, is every single thing you post just to troll:confused: We have all been mugged, good lord. Did your mother tap into the Fury family gene pool, is that why you are so emotionally invested here?

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Can you not find any Haye opponents that are more dangerous than Furys?:eek:

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Haye should call fury's bluff and go for winner takes all.Apart from the deluded, nobody thinks fury will take a big punch at top level.

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Still no different to Haye then;)

For fuck sakes, Haye got dropped by cruisers and a super middle!

Barrett dropped him;D

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Haye will KO Fury , he has no chin at top level , Hayes isn't a rock chin but he took shots from bigger hitters than the pikey.
The pikey hasn't been anywhere near a puncher and has been dropped.

Begining to think we may be getting conned by the twitter talk.


I have a feeling this fight could well be on

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Still no different to Haye then;)

For fuck sakes, Haye got dropped by cruisers and a super middle!

Barrett dropped him;D

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Haye will KO Fury , he has no chin at top level , Hayes isn't a rock chin but he took shots from bigger hitters than the pikey.
The pikey hasn't been anywhere near a puncher and has been dropped.

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I agree but if Amir Khan can get his chin past Maidana and in fact anyone who can punch then Fury has a chance. the positive with Fury is he is tough. He didn't react like a pool of piss like Price and has the will to win to push himself and dig deep.

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Hahahahaha!

Ae you taking the piss? :vd:

That was the one fighter in the division that could make an ancient Holyfield look good!;D

Thats the best you can come up with and now the realisation that you've all been mugged;D:LOLATYOU:

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Are you? Seriously, is every single thing you post just to troll:confused: We have all been mugged, good lord. Did your mother tap into the Fury family gene pool, is that why you are so emotionally invested here?

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Can you not find any Haye opponents that are more dangerous than Furys?:eek:

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Did I ever say I could, or even entertain the arguement? I realize you are cut from the Tyson Fury cloth as far as reading comprehension but please don't put words in my mouth. I'm fully of the opinion neither guy has beaten anyone worth a damn at HW, that doesn't mean I have to be thick as shit and blind about assessing who is more capable. It's easily the best payday for both men, and neither is in a hurry to fight any top men aside from Klitschko, since there aren't any who draw enough to make it a more sensible choice. Comes down to whether your gypsy man crush actually wants the fight, it would seem.

Fury gets KO with in 3 rounds, he's a large individual but Haye will beat him fairly easily,
Haye will put him on the floor, no problem.!
Easy fight for Haye.;)

Its not even hype with fury , he is pretty embarrassing when I hear him talk , he is just a really thick person , he was calling out the brothers grim after 4 fights now he reaches the top ten , he is being very very cautious. I think most of us can see right through him.
He would be great as Krusty the clowns sidekick.

" HEY HEY KIDS LETS MEET Pikey the lumbering clown " !!!!!

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Hahahahaha!

Ae you taking the piss? :vd:

That was the one fighter in the division that could make an ancient Holyfield look good!;D

Thats the best you can come up with and now the realisation that you've all been mugged;D:LOLATYOU:

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Are you? Seriously, is every single thing you post just to troll:confused: We have all been mugged, good lord. Did your mother tap into the Fury family gene pool, is that why you are so emotionally invested here?

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Can you not find any Haye opponents that are more dangerous than Furys?:eek:

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I did, Valuev. He is bigger and stronger then any opponent Fury has fought. His skill set isnt great but due to his physical traits he is hard to beat.

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Hahahahaha!

Ae you taking the piss? :vd:

That was the one fighter in the division that could make an ancient Holyfield look good!;D

Thats the best you can come up with and now the realisation that you've all been mugged;D:LOLATYOU:

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Are you? Seriously, is every single thing you post just to troll:confused: We have all been mugged, good lord. Did your mother tap into the Fury family gene pool, is that why you are so emotionally invested here?

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Can you not find any Haye opponents that are more dangerous than Furys?:eek:

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I did, Valuev. He is bigger and stronger then any opponent Fury has fought. His skill set isnt great but due to his physical traits he is hard to beat.

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Hahahahaha!

Ae you taking the piss? :vd:

That was the one fighter in the division that could make an ancient Holyfield look good!;D

Thats the best you can come up with and now the realisation that you've all been mugged;D:LOLATYOU:

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Are you? Seriously, is every single thing you post just to troll:confused: We have all been mugged, good lord. Did your mother tap into the Fury family gene pool, is that why you are so emotionally invested here?

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Can you not find any Haye opponents that are more dangerous than Furys?:eek:

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I did, Valuev. He is bigger and stronger then any opponent Fury has fought. His skill set isnt great but due to his physical traits he is hard to beat.

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Stop it:-X

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Valuev was a former champion so he is better than any of Fury's opponents , fact.

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Hahahahaha!

Ae you taking the piss? :vd:

That was the one fighter in the division that could make an ancient Holyfield look good!;D

Thats the best you can come up with and now the realisation that you've all been mugged;D:LOLATYOU:

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Are you? Seriously, is every single thing you post just to troll:confused: We have all been mugged, good lord. Did your mother tap into the Fury family gene pool, is that why you are so emotionally invested here?

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Can you not find any Haye opponents that are more dangerous than Furys?:eek:

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I did, Valuev. He is bigger and stronger then any opponent Fury has fought. His skill set isnt great but due to his physical traits he is hard to beat.

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Valuev was a former champion so he is better than any of Fury's opponents , fact.

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Yes but he was never on channel 5 so he is crap fact. :)

Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

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But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali. :)

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

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But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali. :)

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Fury didnt beat the Chisora who went life and death with Vitali. Fury didnt even beat the Chisora that fought Haye. If you dont see that Im not gonna argue with you but you are a clown!

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

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But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali. :)

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Chisora is probably not a good one to pick when discussing the records of Haye and Fury. ;)

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

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But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali. :)

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Chisora is probably not a good one to pick when discussing the records of Haye and Fury. ;)

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Chisora was highly regarded after going 12 with Vitali. Haye kos Chisora and suddenly hes no good?

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

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But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali. :)

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Chisora is probably not a good one to pick when discussing the records of Haye and Fury. ;)

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Chisora was highly regarded after going 12 with Vitali. Haye kos Chisora and suddenly hes no good?

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Uh, no... THat was exactly Ryans point lol. Haye dealt with a fit and hungry Chisora a lot better than Fury did a completely out of shape one.

Watch out, p4pking will be snivelling in to his hanky about quotes ;D

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I nearly agree with you but I meant dangerous as in a danger of getting stopped. When you are 7,2" and you cant hurt a 47 year old Holyfield you are not dangerous;D but out of everyone, that really is it isnt it;)

Haye has hoodwinked people in to thinking he's had some kind of hall of fame career not that the only names he's beaten aren't very good. Mormeck, Macaranelli, Valuev, Ruiz, Harrison and Chisora are not the stuff of legend and his big chance ended in dismal embarrasment.

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

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But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali. :)

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Chisora is probably not a good one to pick when discussing the records of Haye and Fury. ;)

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Chisora was highly regarded after going 12 with Vitali. Haye kos Chisora and suddenly hes no good?

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Uh, no... THat was exactly Ryans point lol. Haye dealt with a fit and hungry Chisora a lot better than Fury did a completely out of shape one.

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Fury faced a fresh, u defeated hungry version.

Not a tired journeyman that had lost to Fury, Helenius and Vitali;D

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

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I nearly agree with you but I meant dangerous as in a danger of getting stopped. When you are 7,2" and you cant hurt a 47 year old Holyfield you are not dangerous;D but out of everyone, that really is it isnt it;)

Haye has hoodwinked people in to thinking he's had some kind of hall of fame career not that the only names he's beaten aren't very good. Mormeck, Macaranelli, Valuev, Ruiz, Harrison and Chisora are not the stuff of legend and his big chance ended in dismal embarrasment.

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And that point makes the pikey good?, and makes him able to take a big punch how ?
I don't think anyone is saying Haye is a great HW , but the fact we think he would easily KO Fury , sums up what we think of Fury.
That is the point of this thread.

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But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali. :)

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Uh, no... THat was exactly Ryans point lol. Haye dealt with a fit and hungry Chisora a lot better than Fury did a completely out of shape one.

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Fury faced a fresh, u defeated hungry version.

Not a tired journeyman that had lost to Fury, Helenius and Vitali;D

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If that is actually what you believe, then you're clearly best left entitled to such illusions. Tyson Fury himself could debate astrophysics better than you can boxing.

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

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I nearly agree with you but I meant dangerous as in a danger of getting stopped. When you are 7,2" and you cant hurt a 47 year old Holyfield you are not dangerous;D but out of everyone, that really is it isnt it;)

Haye has hoodwinked people in to thinking he's had some kind of hall of fame career not that the only names he's beaten aren't very good. Mormeck, Macaranelli, Valuev, Ruiz, Harrison and Chisora are not the stuff of legend and his big chance ended in dismal embarrasment.

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And that point makes the pikey good?, and makes him able to take a big punch how ?
I don't think anyone is saying Haye is a great HW , but the fact we think he would easily KO Fury , sums up what we think of Fury.
That is the point of this thread.

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If Cassius Clay was around now and hed just been dropped by a 185lb Henry Cooper and a 195lb Sonny Banks, who would you have put your money on before the Liston Fight?;)

Did you just bring up Muhammad Ali in order to support your case for Tyson Fury:D THis is comedy gold Ross, you're killing it

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I have to agree with this point , the only way Ross can justify anything about Fury is to bring up totally unrelated points , he must be part of the Fury clan , he certainly seems stupid enough.

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HAha, I really think he's just having a laugh at this point. In his defence though, bringing up related points about Tyson Fury in the discussion of him being anything but pure shit is more or less impossible.

Fury being a bigger star than Haye and single-handedly selling the fight is most laughable.

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That is the point , Ross likes Fury which is fine , but we are fans to, and the rest of us are telling him , Haye is the bigger name , we the paying public , however his love affair with Fury clouds his ability to fucking understand that.

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That is the point , Ross likes Fury which is fine , but we are fans to, and the rest of us are telling him , Haye is the bigger name , we the paying public , however his love affair with Fury clouds his ability to fucking understand that.

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Ross hates Haye more than he loves Fury. Trust me. He will never give him credit for anything, bit like you with Calzaghe (;D).

At this moment in Furys career, he is undefeated and is yet to fight for a world title, he is only a pro of four and a half years. Haye at this point was also yet to fight for a world title and had been dropped a few times and stopped. I mentioned Cassius Clay because he also looked like shit getting dropped a couple of times before his world title shot.

Haye is hound to be more well known than Fury, or he should be, hes been a pro 11 years!

All im saying, is ignore (if you can) what comes out of his mouth and look at his results. At comparative times in their careers Fury is actually one up on Haye as he hasnt been beaten by a retired 40 year old. I dont hate Haye, I just cant get behind him because his style is dull to me. Hes ok when he actually lets his combinations go but other than that he plods around sideways with that low left. I like my fighters to fight, even if it looks messy, you end up with an actual fight. They force the opponent to fight. The best win in my eyes on Hayes record is the result against Chisora but you then have to look at Chisora and realise he had 3 losses and one of them was losing his unbeaten record to Fury and then it puts that result in to perspective.

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At this moment in Furys career, he is undefeated and is yet to fight for a world title, he is only a pro of four and a half years. Haye at this point was also yet to fight for a world title and had been dropped a few times and stopped. I mentioned Cassius Clay because he also looked like shit getting dropped a couple of times before his world title shot.

Haye is hound to be more well known than Fury, or he should be, hes been a pro 11 years!

All im saying, is ignore (if you can) what comes out of his mouth and look at his results. At comparative times in their careers Fury is actually one up on Haye as he hasnt been beaten by a retired 40 year old. I dont hate Haye, I just cant get behind him because his style is dull to me. Hes ok when he actually lets his combinations go but other than that he plods around sideways with that low left. I like my fighters to fight, even if it looks messy, you end up with an actual fight. They force the opponent to fight. The best win in my eyes on Hayes record is the result against Chisora but you then have to look at Chisora and realise he had 3 losses and one of them was losing his unbeaten record to Fury and then it puts that result in to perspective.

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Jesus Christ you are a fucking idiot. Chisora didn't train for his fight against Fury. He came in two stone heavier then any other fight. He gassed after 3 rounds and then took a beating, clean shot after clean shot for the rest of the fight. Fury couldn't even knock him down. He is a feather fisted bitch. In his fight with Haye he was up for it more then any fight he had before. Look what Haye did to him, what Fury, Helenius and Klit could not. Stop and look good doing so. You clearly don't watch fights and just look at results so your opinion is shit. You keep going on about Chisoras losses, he was fucking robbed against Helenius, looked good against Klit, put up the best fight anyone has in a long time and was not in shape against Fury.

Haye had been a pro of 10 years and had 27 fights when he fought Chisora and he still had a few very shaky moments.

Tyson Fury was still very inexperienced, he was only 2 and a half years as a pro with 14 fights. He's better than the fighter that took Chisoras 0, that fighter would not have looked as comfortable against Johnson.

Again Ross, that has absolutely fuck all to do with the two of them fighting now, and puts nothing but your aptitude for debate into perspective. Haye isn't a natural HW and was beaten at cruiser when he had a similar experience level to Fury, wooop de doo. Tyson Fury has yet to face anyone close to his size or with world class experience, wait until he does to use that yardstick perhaps.

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Again Ross, that has absolutely fuck all to do with the two of them fighting now, and puts nothing but your aptitude for debate into perspective. Haye isn't a natural HW and was beaten at cruiser when he had a similar experience level to Fury, wooop de doo. Tyson Fury has yet to face anyone close to his size or with world class experience, wait until he does to use that yardstick perhaps.

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Haye is a crock, currently fighting once a year.

Fury is a heavy weight contender.

Haye wants a shortcut to a title shot, while still running from wlad, if he wants one fight before a title shot Fury fight is the only one possible.

Fury does not need to fight Haye and holds all the cards.

But in my opinion peter fury wants to give tyson a few more rounds, so is bargaining/posturing so he can have warmup fight for fury before having haye ppv and then a title shot, by which time Vitali will of retired.