Fury is a joke.

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali.

Chisora is probably not a good one to pick when discussing the records of Haye and Fury.

Chisora was highly regarded after going 12 with Vitali. Haye kos Chisora and suddenly hes no good?

Uh, no... THat was exactly Ryans point lol. Haye dealt with a fit and hungry Chisora a lot better than Fury did a completely out of shape one.

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali.

Chisora is probably not a good one to pick when discussing the records of Haye and Fury.

Chisora was highly regarded after going 12 with Vitali. Haye kos Chisora and suddenly hes no good?

Uh, no... THat was exactly Ryans point lol. Haye dealt with a fit and hungry Chisora a lot better than Fury did a completely out of shape one.

Fury faced a fresh, u defeated hungry version.

Not a tired journeyman that had lost to Fury, Helenius and Vitali

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Im not saying Valuev is good. Although I dont think anyone should be criticising a fighter who ended his carear 50-2. But he is far better then anyone Fury has fought.

But the best you can offer is Valuev. Fury has beaten the then undefeated Chisora who went life and death with Vitali.

Chisora is probably not a good one to pick when discussing the records of Haye and Fury.

Chisora was highly regarded after going 12 with Vitali. Haye kos Chisora and suddenly hes no good?

Uh, no... THat was exactly Ryans point lol. Haye dealt with a fit and hungry Chisora a lot better than Fury did a completely out of shape one.

Fury faced a fresh, u defeated hungry version.

Not a tired journeyman that had lost to Fury, Helenius and Vitali

If that is actually what you believe, then you're clearly best left entitled to such illusions. Tyson Fury himself could debate astrophysics better than you can boxing.