Cleverly Speaks

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Glad I could help. Now hush I've got Kissinger on the phone.

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Send my kind regards.;D

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Originally Posted by Master

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Duran was a legend before he lost to Hearns, who physically dwarfed him. This was Cleverlys first top opponent and he was shown up terribly. Night and day, what does he come back to exactly? He was a paper champion through and through.

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Cleverly beat Bellew who is next in line for the WBC title. Nathan is a class fighter.

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I don't think Bellew is special either, and that was neck and neck with Cleverly hurt repeatedly.

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If Bellew wins the title it would set up an interesting rematch.

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no it doesn't it just sets up another match up for another paper champion to be in place, Bellew's biggest wins are against a smaller and shot to shit one dimensional Edison Miranda and then a win against Chilemba on his second attempt, not too impressive sorry

I think he could well nick it, he wouldn't be a late replacement this time.

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Originally Posted by Master

Cleverly is a likeable man and comes across well in interviews. He does need to change trainers and move away from his dad, he has not developed his boxing skills and ability, it is the same every fight with no progress. Nathan can come back better and improved.

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Summed up perfectly. Not every father and son team can be as successful as the Calzaghes.The great ones come back from things like this.

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Duran was a legend before he lost to Hearns, who physically dwarfed him. This was Cleverlys first top opponent and he was shown up terribly. Night and day, what does he come back to exactly? He was a paper champion through and through.

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Cleverly beat Bellew who is next in line for the WBC title. Nathan is a class fighter.

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I don't think Bellew is special either, and that was neck and neck with Cleverly hurt repeatedly.

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If Bellew wins the title it would set up an interesting rematch.

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Yea but Bellew is shit and hasnt a hope against the current champs

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Originally Posted by imp

He should leave boxing

OR

He can take the amir khan route and make tonnes of money staying clear of a certain type of fighter.

You could make a case of khan getting a decision against garcia or prescott if it happened now but nathan will never EVER beat that russian.

Either way, nathan gets props for asking for that fight and wanting to prove himself.
He still has youth on his side...

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The thing with Cleverly is that he can't take the Amir Khan route. He just doesn't sell tickets and Box Nation doesn't pay nearly as much as Sky does. Cleverly had a fight against some east european guy at the Motorpoint Arena in Cardiff lined up a year or so ago but the tickets weren't selling so they cancelled it and he ended up fighting on some undercard in America. Even the Kovalev fight there were huge numbers of unsold seats. People just weren't going to buy tickets to see him until he'd proved himself so him and Warren rolled the dice against Kovalev. Basically they didn't have any other choices. And in his first proper test he got blown away.

It's going to be a really tough road back for him if he even does continue. Him and Enzo Mac would be an absolute war if it happened but Cleverly has a maths degree and may decide getting battered for small purses isn't something he wants to do.

I am sure Cleverly would not mind fighting Enzo at cruiserweight as a comeback fight.

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I am sure Cleverly would not mind fighting Enzo at cruiserweight as a comeback fight.

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Why cruiserweight?

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I am sure Cleverly would not mind fighting Enzo at cruiserweight as a comeback fight.

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Why cruiserweight?

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He said he may go up in weight which implies he may be struggling to make light heavy.

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I am sure Cleverly would not mind fighting Enzo at cruiserweight as a comeback fight.

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Why cruiserweight?

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He said he may go up in weight which implies he may be struggling to make light heavy.

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or he realized that the talent pool is a lot shallower at Cruiser than it is at LT Heavy

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I am sure Cleverly would not mind fighting Enzo at cruiserweight as a comeback fight.

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Why cruiserweight?

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He said he may go up in weight which implies he may be struggling to make light heavy.

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When he was calling out froch did he not want to move down a weight ??

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I am sure Cleverly would not mind fighting Enzo at cruiserweight as a comeback fight.

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Why cruiserweight?

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He said he may go up in weight which implies he may be struggling to make light heavy.

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When he was calling out froch did he not want to move down a weight ??

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I am sure he wanted it at light heavy so Froch could be a 2 time champ. I bet Froch regrets not taking the offer now.

Yes Froch must be kicking himself for not getting Clev's name on his record ;D

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Yes Froch must be kicking himself for not getting Clev's name on his record ;D

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Easier money than fighting Groves? Cunt. :)

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Yes Froch must be kicking himself for not getting Clev's name on his record ;D

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Easier money than fighting Groves? Cunt. :)

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did you just call fenster a cunt?

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Yes Froch must be kicking himself for not getting Clev's name on his record ;D

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Easier money than fighting Groves? Cunt. :)

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did you just call fenster a cunt?

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Yes number 1 cunt on saddo Fact. :)

Easier imaginary money. Clev-Froch never had a chance in hell of happening. Did you see how packed that venue was the weekend? It was set up for 5000 people and looked half empty. That was poor old Clev's biggest ever fight. Not even the Welsh support him

hes seems like a nice chap but he hasnt got a TV personality you are drawn to has he

Clevery has LOST ONE FIGHT, hardly ending of a career is it,! weather he continues to
boxing is up to him.
Remember a lot of people call fighters bums, really that's a crock of shit any ONE who gets in
that ring has got balls,as I sit here at this key board the only chance I have of getting hurt is
if I spill my tea over myself.!
Lets take things into context, getting smacked about the head and body is painful boxing is
the ultimate warrior sport, second to none.!
I no a few of you box, great respect to you my son has boxed and suffered injury requiring
surgery because of boxing.
So chaps before we call them,bums crap shit etc, remember blood plenty of it sweat and tears,
easy to criticize but hard to do.!;)

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Easier imaginary money. Clev-Froch never had a chance in hell of happening. Did you see how packed that venue was the weekend? It was set up for 5000 people and looked half empty. That was poor old Clev's biggest ever fight. Not even the Welsh support him

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shame really I bet it would have been a different story if he was a matchroom fighter he would have had a more appealing undercards with reese n selby for the welsh instead of enzo

Cruiserweight? I'd like to see him looking tight at light heavy first...

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Easier imaginary money. Clev-Froch never had a chance in hell of happening. Did you see how packed that venue was the weekend? It was set up for 5000 people and looked half empty. That was poor old Clev's biggest ever fight. Not even the Welsh support him

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shame really I bet it would have been a different story if he was a matchroom fighter he would have had a more appealing undercards with reese n selby for the welsh instead of enzo

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Yeah he'd probably be much more popular with Matchroom, poor sod made reference to that in the intereview, he'd have benefitted from the might of Sky instead of being on a niche channel.

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Clevery has LOST ONE FIGHT, hardly ending of a career is it,! weather he continues to
boxing is up to him.
Remember a lot of people call fighters bums, really that's a crock of shit any ONE who gets in
that ring has got balls,as I sit here at this key board the only chance I have of getting hurt is
if I spill my tea over myself.!
Lets take things into context, getting smacked about the head and body is painful boxing is
the ultimate warrior sport, second to none.!
I no a few of you box, great respect to you my son has boxed and suffered injury requiring
surgery because of boxing.
So chaps before we call them,bums crap shit etc, remember blood plenty of it sweat and tears,
easy to criticize but hard to do.!;)

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Does that apply to Freddie Flintoff too? ;)

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Clevery has LOST ONE FIGHT, hardly ending of a career is it,! weather he continues to
boxing is up to him.
Remember a lot of people call fighters bums, really that's a crock of shit any ONE who gets in
that ring has got balls,as I sit here at this key board the only chance I have of getting hurt is
if I spill my tea over myself.!
Lets take things into context, getting smacked about the head and body is painful boxing is
the ultimate warrior sport, second to none.!
I no a few of you box, great respect to you my son has boxed and suffered injury requiring
surgery because of boxing.
So chaps before we call them,bums crap shit etc, remember blood plenty of it sweat and tears,
easy to criticize but hard to do.!;)

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Does that apply to Freddie Flintoff too? ;)

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Ray all right you got me there.:vd: