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I don't have any problem with the definition of racism. If that is all you are saying then I am all for it, yes indeed the definition of racism is if you don't like an entire ethnicity of people simply because of their ethnicity and nothing else.
@Gandalf is correct that racism by this definition is a very natural and I think genetically built in quality for all human beings and try as hard as they want to be an idealogue they will not be able to shake it. It is quite normal and natural and all the social justice nonsense can work on this for a million years and not make any Headway at all. It's amazing how people think racism is so bad when in fact it is quite normal and natural and there's nothing that anyone can do about it
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I don't have any problem with the definition of racism. If that is all you are saying then I am all for it, yes indeed the definition of racism is if you don't like an entire ethnicity of people simply because of their ethnicity and nothing else.
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Gandalf is correct that racism by this definition is a very natural and I think genetically built in quality for all human beings and try as hard as they want to be an idealogue they will not be able to shake it. It is quite normal and natural and all the social justice nonsense can work on this for a million years and not make any Headway at all. It's amazing how people think racism is so bad when in fact it is quite normal and natural and there's nothing that anyone can do about it
Well that's where we'll disagree. Just because I'm not condemning Gandhi for being racist, doesn't mean I think it is a good trait. All I said is people in those days tended toward being racist a bit more than now, when supposedly we're "wiser" about other cultures and races around the world. I may be common... but I don't consider it normal nor positive. But you're right. Racists will always be racists and there's little anyone can do about it. Hopefully though, as people become more educated in general.... and people travel more and see more of different races and cultures..... some of this ignorance will subside. Yes, because IMO racism denotes ignorance, as I said before.
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]yes I would say that racism also Denotes ignorance because it is just simply numerically impossible for every single member of a certain ethnicity to not be liked by somebody for another reason apart from their ethnicity. Even if 65% of every Hunan Chinese villager was an obnoxious nose-picking spitting and blowing snot in public near you that would still not be enough of a percentage for you to say that you detest and despise Hunan Chinese villagers. Because what about the other 35%? You can't just write them off because of the 65% that you experienced firsthand. So I agree that to write off that 35% would be ignorant and by the definition of the word ignorant it means precisely that you are not knowing about something or that knowledge is not possessed about something. So yes that would be ignorant to write off 100% of every Hunan Chinese villager and that would be racist.
On the other hand I don't mind a bit of fudging the figures because if 65% of a population of people were really despicable and vile to you I think you would have every right to say that you hate all of them. And I would not necessarily find that to be racist because 65% of a certain population is a gigantic proportion and I personally believe quite well enough of a sample to be able to deduce that the majority of these people are obnoxious and vile and unhygienic cretins.
I'm not saying it's a good thing or bad thing
@TitoFan
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So Freedom is an SJW now then? His thread.
And no ..Racism is not only banned for good reason on the forum, it's not normal or natural, it is learned behaviour. Passed down prejudice from ignorant parents or peers. Basic stuff. Kids don't give a shit what race other kids are until they are brainwashed by old people with a chip on their shoulder or genuine grudge.
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I disagree I think it is quite normal and natural although it is also true it can be learned. But take a look at all those double-blind experiments they did with the Aborigines kids that they took and brought over to Belgium and then took the Belgian kids and brought them over there to Papua New Guinea and that double blind experiment from 1967. that wasn't learned that was straight out first time ever experiencing it and the results were not surprising at all really. the kids had a strong aversion to the kids who did not look anything like them at all. It is quite natural indeed
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So Freedom is an SJW now then? His thread.
And no ..Racism is not only banned for good reason on the forum, it's not normal or natural, it is learned behaviour. Passed down prejudice from ignorant parents or peers. Basic stuff. Kids don't give a shit what race other kids are until they are brainwashed by old people with a chip on their shoulder or genuine grudge.
Breaking, racist babies on the rise
Could babies start showing racist traits before they mumble their first word?
That’s the finding of two new studies out of the University of Toronto, published recently in the journal Child Development.
The first study had infants listen to either happy or sad music, and then look at pictures of adult faces. Infants between 6 and 9 months looked at faces of their own race for longer after listening to happy music, and faces of other races for longer after listening to sad music. It’s not clear why the infants made these associations.
In the second study, infants between 6 and 8 months watched videos of a woman looking at a corner of the TV screen. In some videos, the woman is gazing at an animal; in others, the animal appears in a different corner of the screen. The infants were more likely to follow the adult’s line of sight if she was of their own race, indicating that infants are more likely to learn from adults of their own race than adults of other races.
These aren’t the first studies to find that young children can show racial biases — a 2014 study found that 15-month-olds show preference to adults of their own race, the Daily Mail reported — but these findings indicate these biases begin earlier than previously thought as well as offer new reasoning behind the tendencies.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....ence-says/amp/
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Remember to look after ones own is natural nothing wrong with that.!
Trouble is people is over analysis things and then after the outcome pick what suits.!
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It is an understandable set of conclusions to reach, but if you are doing so in order to justify the idea that being racist is natural, you are mistaken. Implicit Bias is not Racism. This is why Psychologists are usually white grey haired old cunts who need a kick up the arse. They are on the most part, actually mental and rather than deal with that they project the idea that the whole world must be...and they are going to fix them. The same thing happens with people who say things like "Not All" or those who want to pretend that it's OK to justify racism as entirely natural. Projection.If you are uncomfortable with your own natural implicit bias you are not going to deal with that problem very efficiently by running away from it. You have to acknowledge it.
The most uncomfortable truth to first comprehend is that there is no such thing as race. Racism is real but the idea of Race is a social construct. You cannot avoid the science it shouts it at us but we are so conditioned by the idea it exists we live are lives as though it is real. We do this with many things though and it is how we make sense of the world. Visible differences in skin colour are accidents of history. Genetic mixture and displacement are what makes us Human Beings. There is no convenient cutlery draw of borders in which the forks stay here and the spoons go in this divide and the knives here, never to ever touch. 8000 years ago Europe was full of brown skinned people. You can have sub-species of Chimps but not humans, there is no biological criteria filled which can even make race a meaningful category.
It is all Samuel Morton's fault the racist twat.
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I’m implicit bias is a psych term. It happens and the subconscious level and may differ from our declared beliefs
Implicit Biases Predict Behavior in the Real World
Extensive research has documented the disturbing effects of implicit racial biases in a variety of realms ranging from classrooms to courtrooms to hospitals. Consider these examples:
A 2012 study used identical case vignettes to examine how pediatricians’ implicit racial attitudes affect treatment recommendations for four common pediatric conditions. Results indicated that as pediatricians’ pro-White implicit biases increased, they were more likely to prescribe painkillers for vignette patients who were White as opposed to Black. This is just one example of how understanding implicit racial biases may help explain differential health care treatment, even for youths.
Other research explored the connection between criminal sentencing and Afrocentric features bias, which refers to the generally negative judgments and beliefs that many people hold regarding individuals who possess Afrocentric features such as dark skin, a wide nose, and full lips. Researchers found that when controlling for numerous factors (e.g., seriousness of the primary offense, number of prior offenses, etc.), individuals with the most prominent Afrocentric features received longer sentences than their less Afrocentrically featured counterparts.
This phenomenon was observed intraracially in both their Black and White male inmate samples.
Barriers to Opportunity: Implicit Bias & Structural Racialization
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Ahh..... a study on "racist babies". I was wondering when someone was going to spend money on this incredibly, vastly needed study. I'd rank that right up there with the life-altering study that came out in 2005, a description of which I was able to find, and share below:
"Effects of Backwards Speech and Speaker Variability in Language Discrimination by Rats, a study from the Journal of Experimental Psychology in 2005, found that rats were not always able to tell the difference between recordings of Japanese and Dutch being spoken backwards. Apparently they were trying to find a link between infant humans and other mammals rather than discover that rats don’t understand human languages when they are reversed."
Where would we be without science.
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it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions
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it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions
Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.
They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance. "You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.
In the real world no racist is going to say "You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says "You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.
Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.
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Beanz you Indo-Chinese Altaic Eskimo
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it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions
Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.
They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance.
"You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.
In the real world no racist is going to say
"You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says
"You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.
Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.
Beanz I almost fear writing this but what is your issue with the psych field. I have seen many people with serious issues have functioning greatly improved by CBT and other treatments. I’m just curious if you had a bad personal experience or you just react to what you have read and heard and are looking at it only with an external viewpoint. Please note I’m not calling u a cunt I’m just curious. If I hadn’t seen it work and help people I wouldn’t be asking.
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brocktonblockbust
it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions
Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.
They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance.
"You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.
In the real world no racist is going to say
"You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says
"You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.
Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.
You do need a shrink though.
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That does sound a bit rude, but I mean that in the nicest way possible. If those MRI's are not working you need to try something else. :D
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Isn't "gammon heads" racist, it's directed solely at the white man?
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Yep, it is a bit racist and describing experts in their fields as "mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest" is rather strong stuff from a bloke who has a degree in art. However, in saying that I don't really have a problem with it. Beanz has an issue with the white man and that's up to him.
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Isn't "gammon heads" racist, it's directed solely at the white man?
Yes, it’s part of #whitegenocide
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Isn't "gammon heads" racist, it's directed solely at the white man?
Hardly. Firstly no such thing as a white man. I already said we are all mixed race. Secondly you have to be furiously pink in the face from literally fucking a pig if you are David Cameron or tearing your shirt off after being banned from YouTube if you are Alex Jones.
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brocktonblockbust
it's true that homo sapiens is all the same but I think we can just not be pedantic and instead of saying race here we should use ethnicity which I think the study did use the word ethnicity so therefore there's nothing wrong with these conclusions
Not really you can't start a game and then halfway through move the goalposts. That is why nothing is ever resolved here. If we were more rigorous who knows while we are never going to bring world peace we could at least some people how to use a fork and others the importance of not putting their hand down their pants in public places.
They are not the same thing. You can have Armenian, Italian, Semitic and Indian roots, but when people talk about racism it is never that sophisticated or reflective of the complexity that is the reality of our lives. It's always on race as the bogeyman, and putting you into that camp based on your appearance.
"You Robbing Black Bastard" may have little to do with calling all black people thieves but it is a racist expression in that it uses a group you appear to belong to give you another slap for good measure. Don't believe Psychologists who tell you implicit bias predicts behaviour in the real world for they are pretending that human beings operate in a vacuum and are mostly a bit thick, pretentious, judgmental, or are loons to be honest.
In the real world no racist is going to say
"You robbing Armenian, Italian, Semitic, Indian Bastard" . It proves that Race does not exist. Nobody says
"You dirty smelly mixed race cunt" do they? They use ignorant words based on a perceived difference in skin colour or what they resume is you country of origin.
Also there is no such thing as verifiable psychological studies. Or white people. We are all mixed race even Tommy Robinson and his tribe of Gammon heads.
Beanz I almost fear writing this but what is your issue with the psych field. I have seen many people with serious issues have functioning greatly improved by CBT and other treatments. I’m just curious if you had a bad personal experience or you just react to what you have read and heard and are looking at it only with an external viewpoint. Please note I’m not calling u a cunt I’m just curious. If I hadn’t seen it work and help people I wouldn’t be asking.
Check out the Psychology thread
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It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan
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It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan
Never judge a book by it's cover :)
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It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan
Never judge a book by it's cover :)
bwaaaaHAHAHA yes good one 😀
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It's sure that we are all mixed race but you can't tell me that Tony Blair looks the same as Michael Jordan
uh..well that is kind of the point. Racism is a very superficial prejudice mainly based on the fact that someone does not look like you based on some vague idea that that means they were born somewhere, will act someway, will think someway etc
I am not saying that groups of people can not share differences but to attribute race based generalities etc is actually denying that.
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If race does not exist then why do my medical reports list me as caucasian? When police hunt a murder suspect I am sure they don't just say 'All murder suspects are mixed race'. They go on height, hair color, and RACE amongst other things. Race exists and it is silly to deny it. I don't think the Japanese mostly think of themselves as black or white though obvious exceptions exist of course as in the likes of Naomi Osaka who is tricking people really as it is her Mum's name and she can barely even speak Japanese.
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Race exists and there are differences between the races physically mentally intellectually Etc
And I don't know why we're not allowed to like whatever those attributes are and why we have to be labeled a word called racism
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Such a HANGUP over the word "racism", for crying out loud.
Brock, saying you don't like black people's kinky hair is not racist.
Saying you don't like black people period because they're inferior to you IS racist.
WTH is so hard to understand about that?
Being racist is not the end of the world. It just denotes ignorance and unwarranted hate toward a group of people.
BTW, I also believe races exist. I don't understand the opposite argument. Races exist, ethnic backgrounds exist. But as humans mix more and more, differences will become blurred over time. Eventually that will probably be the only way to get rid of racism altogether...... when we're all so mixed up it'll just be one big pot of brownish, wavy-haired, lookalikes.
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BTW, continuing to claim differences in intelligence due to races is racist, IMO. Just read a very good article about Eastern Asian culture and assimilation in the States, and it correctly states that the fact you have so many over-achieving students and professionals from Eastern Asia in the States, percentage-wise, is mainly due to parental influence and a push toward education in specific fields. It's not because their DNA somehow makes them smarter than other races. That is preposterous and ridiculous.
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That is debatable Tito. I think the differences are real but the reasons aren't completely known. However, you are right there is a lot of focus on education. Many asian students have a firmer theoretical understanding of English grammar than the Brits do for example. They are better at maths and sciences. It's the same in all East Asian countries. Very smart people. IQ difference between races is factual and I don't think that is racist. It should be a kick up the bum to whites and blacks to sort themselves out and aspire hire. If me and Beanz can achieve distinctions in Masters or Undergraduate programmes despite warped childhoods then so can others. I don't feel inferior. It just makes me want to study harder. It can be a motivating force rather than a means for division. I've nothing against anybody of any color and especially if they are doing their best. It's all you can do. Plenty of smart people of every race out there, but the stats are what they are. Very few of us in any race are going to be Einsteinian anyway.
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That is debatable Tito. I think the differences are real but the reasons aren't completely known. However, you are right there is a lot of focus on education. Many asian students have a firmer theoretical understanding of English grammar than the Brits do for example. They are better at maths and sciences. It's the same in all East Asian countries. Very smart people. IQ difference between races is factual and I don't think that is racist. It should be a kick up the bum to whites and blacks to sort themselves out and aspire hire. If me and Beanz can achieve distinctions in Masters or Undergraduate programmes despite warped childhoods then so can others. I don't feel inferior. It just makes me want to study harder. It can be a motivating force rather than a means for division. I've nothing against anybody of any color and especially if they are doing their best. It's all you can do. Plenty of smart people of every race out there, but the stats are what they are. Very few of us in any race are going to be Einsteinian anyway.
If my parents ingrain the importance of education in me, and pretty much encourage/force me to get a college degree, I'm naturally going to have more knowledge and do better at IQ tests than Joe Blow across the street whose parents were dope addicts and couldn't care less whether their son went to school or not. They'll tell him to be street-smart, and forget all this college nonsense. Multiply that times thousands and thousands, and some people will be making up generalities supposedly associated with racial DNA.
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]Tito with all due respect and little ginger aside that argument you just made about the bums across the street on drugs as opposed to other parents encouraging kids to go to college and be professional only makes sense when looking at a very small let's say microcosm/neighborhood or a city in a certain culture.
How about this my friend? How about the people in Congo or in Brazil as opposed to the people in Belgium or in Finland? How come the people in Belgium and Finland all have extremely high literacy and college degrees and the people in Congo and Brazil are peasant illiterate and ignorant?
are you saying that we cannot make the statement that the white people in Belgium and Finland had more sense let's say or had more Focus let's say on sending their kids to University and that the people in Brazil and in the Congo and in Cameroon and in Malawi and in Angola did not have the same intelligence? why didn't those people in Cameroon and in Congo for example build universities and take part in scientific and mathematical and philosophical establishment of educational institutions on par with Europe?
Can that all be just explained away by blaming white people? Hell there are some places in the world that white people believe it or not have not yet gone to to conquer or to colonize so what then would be the excuse for those native indigenous people who cannot now blame white people?
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Brock it's not about blaming anyone, much less white people. It's when we try and assign blame where none is assignable that arguments fall apart. Break down my argument into its essence. It's not all encouraging parents vs non-encouraging ones. It's about circumstances. Surely you realize people from Belgium and Finland have more opportunities just being born than people (generally) in the Congo or Angola. Does that make them dumber or with lower IQ because they're black or African or whatever other label we want to assign to them? No. We're all born pretty much anatomically the same, but in various models. Some white... some black... some with round eyes... other with slanted ones. But we're born into circumstances, the reality of our lives. Then we have parental influence. Motumbo's parents over in Angola probably live meal to meal, and education for little Motumbo is the further thing from their minds, probably not having an education themselves. If Motumbo doesn't adequately pass an IQ test, it's not because he's black or from Angola. It's because of his living circumstances, since the day he was born. IQ tests are largely flawed. There's plenty of literature on that. They fail to take into account numerous factors, including the ability for some people to take tests and do well in them. I studied with brilliant people who did poorly on tests because taking tests was their Achilles heel.
Quit making everything about blame. I prefer to focus on the argument at hand.
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If you go back to thousand years why would a kid born in Belgium have any advantage over a kid born in Angola? Or let's make it five thousand years. I'm not talking about since the industrial revolution of course a kid born in 1950 in Belgium has an advantage over a kid born in 1950 in Angola. But the whole question has to be asked that before One race started to mess around or colonize with another race how is it that Belgium or Europe was already on the path to scientific discovery and the foundation of educational institutions even 2000 years ago or so thanks to the Romans of course and the Greeks and the Egyptians before them but still Egypt is right there in Africa why wasn't that culture spread around to other parts of Africa? Then you have the philosophers of Greece and a Babylon and Persia all contributing to Scientific breakthroughs. but if you go back a couple of thousand years they were all living poor in the desert just like little motombo
*****JUST LIKE LITTLE MUTOMBO****
so what was the difference then, just random chance?
shall we not be inclined to make sweeping generalizations based on the course of the last three or four thousand years of human history prior to the Industrial Revolution?
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If race does not exist then why do my medical reports list me as caucasian? When police hunt a murder suspect I am sure they don't just say 'All murder suspects are mixed race'. They go on height, hair color, and RACE amongst other things. Race exists and it is silly to deny it. I don't think the Japanese mostly think of themselves as black or white though obvious exceptions exist of course as in the likes of Naomi Osaka who is tricking people really as it is her Mum's name and she can barely even speak Japanese.
Because it's a convenient way of supporting white privilege across the world. ;D I jest but it really is convenience, it's a fuzzy way of dealing with things and that is how the world works. Seriously it's sounds mental, but the reality is the genetic distances found within a 'Race' are larger than the mean genetic distances between races.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/c...dapt.676.1.jpg
It is quite clearly explained here
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/m...cience-africa/
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That is debatable Tito. I think the differences are real but the reasons aren't completely known. However, you are right there is a lot of focus on education. Many asian students have a firmer theoretical understanding of English grammar than the Brits do for example. They are better at maths and sciences. It's the same in all East Asian countries. Very smart people. IQ difference between races is factual and I don't think that is racist. It should be a kick up the bum to whites and blacks to sort themselves out and aspire hire. If me and Beanz can achieve distinctions in Masters or Undergraduate programmes despite warped childhoods then so can others. I don't feel inferior. It just makes me want to study harder. It can be a motivating force rather than a means for division. I've nothing against anybody of any color and especially if they are doing their best. It's all you can do. Plenty of smart people of every race out there, but the stats are what they are. Very few of us in any race are going to be Einsteinian anyway.
Thank you for acknowledging that I am not a complete thicko. Murray and Peterson etc love the idea that they are brave truth tellers that are not afraid of being unpopular or telling uncomfortable truths. They think it boosts their credibility but the reason the Bell Curve and other primitive racist studies fell out of the pubic consciousness was because they were soundly disproved by the scientific community. Putting it simply they can believe there are differences in IQ between 'races' but the Science say's NO. It is this obsession with order and wanting a 'God' figure to have neat little answers that leads them around the garden path.
"To end up with systematic genetic differences in intelligence between large, ancient populations, the selective forces driving those differences would need to have been enormous. What’s more, those forces would have to have acted across entire continents, with wildly different environments, and have been persistent over tens of thousands of years of tremendous cultural change. Such a scenario is not just speculative – I would argue it is inherently and deeply implausible.
The bottom line is this. While genetic variation may help to explain why one person is more intelligent than another, there are unlikely to be stable and systematic genetic differences that make one population more intelligent than the next."
https://www.theguardian.com/science/...s-are-unlikely
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on the contrary I CAN see how those conditions would vary so greatly and remain relatively constant over a very long period of time so as to have those kinds of great differences in general intelligence
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Re: Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?
Guys, race itself is a social construct....it's why literally ANYONE can give literally ANYONE ELSE a blood transfusion, an organ and/or bone marrow transplant....THEY want you to think race is a thing, but it's soooo not, neither is blood type or whatever matching human leukocyte antigen's is for pussies you just pay no mind to the social constructs and you fucking do it like a champ.
@TitoFan some cultures value education, some don't. Some cultures believe that their success honors their family and their shame shames the family and other cultures don't. Not all cultures are equal.
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Re: Was Mahatma Gandhi a racist?