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NAOYA INOUE has moved to the top of Ring Magazine's latest pound-for-pound rankings.
The Japanese knockout specialist took just two rounds to blast out Nonito Donaire in their unification bantamweight rematch this week.
And that has been enough to see 29-year-old take top spot in the latest rankings that were released this week.
Canelo Alvarez had been in top spot for several months, but he has now been bumped off in the Ring Magazine's P4P top ten boxers.
The Mexican ace, 31, was outpointed by Russia's WBA light-heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol last month.
It was just the second defeat of his 61-fight career, with his previous loss coming at the hands of Floyd Mayweather in 2013.
Prior to Canelo's shock defeat, he was sitting pretty at the top of the Ring's P4P list.
But he has now plummeted down in the rankings, while there is still no room for Tyson Fury after he signed off his career with a brutal knockout victory over Dillian Whyte last month.
The Ring Magazine still counts Fury as their top heavyweight and champion, though they have omitted him from their updated list.
And there is also no room for Anthony Joshua either - although that could all change if he wins his rematch with No.2 Oleksandr Usyk.
The Ukrainian took the heavyweight titles from AJ last September, and that also took him top of the P4P list.
But now Inoue’s latest victory, which unified the bantamweight division, propelled him above Usyk into pole position.
And, with Fury and Joshua’s omission, that means there is now only one British boxer left in the top ten.
Unbeaten star Josh Taylor retains his place, although he has dropped from sixth to ninth.
The 19-0 Scot is not to blame for the terrible scorecards that gifted him an undeserved win over Jack Catterall back in February but his air of invincibility has definitely suffered a dent.
Prior to that bout Taylor was one of British boxing’s biggest success stories, racing to undisputed 10st glory by taking on all of the best in his way and beating them convincingly.
He is definitely not the first big star to dodge a costly bullet thanks to some skew-whiff scoring, and his reputation has taken a big hit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18853...ound-rankings/
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Has "The Ring" catapulted Ginger into "one-name-celebrity" status now? :D :D
A la Tiger... Madonna... Oprah?
Give me a fukking break.... :cool:
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Has "The Ring" catapulted Ginger into "one-name-celebrity" status now? :D :D
A la Tiger... Madonna... Oprah?
Give me a fukking break.... :cool:
is that image from the ring?
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Has "The Ring" catapulted Ginger into "one-name-celebrity" status now? :D :D
A la Tiger... Madonna... Oprah?
Give me a fukking break.... :cool:
is that image from the ring?
(see post 41)
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I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
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Has "The Ring" catapulted Ginger into "one-name-celebrity" status now? :D :D
A la Tiger... Madonna... Oprah?
Give me a fukking break.... :cool:
is that image from the ring?
(see post 41)
i have & am asking if the image is officially from the ring?
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I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
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palmerq
I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
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palmerq
I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
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TitoFan
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palmerq
I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
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TitoFan
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palmerq
I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
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TIC
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palmerq
I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
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TitoFan
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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palmerq
I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
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TIC
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TIC
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TIC
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TitoFan
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palmerq
I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now, i asked if the image was from the ring to confirm your question of who has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now. it seems it is the sun & not the ring
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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palmerq
I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now, i asked if the image was from the ring to confirm your question of who has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now. it seems it is the sun & not the ring
Yes... that is accurate. :)
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TIC
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
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palmerq
I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now, i asked if the image was from the ring to confirm your question of who has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now. it seems it is the sun & not the ring
Yes... that is accurate. :)
we got there in the end
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I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now, i asked if the image was from the ring to confirm your question of who has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now. it seems it is the sun & not the ring
Yes... that is accurate. :)
we got there in the end
Yes. I stated my opinion that it is beneath a major media outlet to confer one-name status to someone like Ginger...... and you made your point (correctly) that it wasn't The Ring who did that.
Win-win... wouldn't you say?
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I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now, i asked if the image was from the ring to confirm your question of who has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now. it seems it is the sun & not the ring
Yes... that is accurate. :)
we got there in the end
Yes. I stated my opinion that it is beneath a major media outlet to confer one-name status to someone like Ginger...... and you made your point (correctly) that it wasn't The Ring who did that.
Win-win... wouldn't you say?
no you asked if ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now & i asked if the image was from the ring. you told me to see a particular post. i was just asking if it was officially from the ring. turns out it wasn't. anyway i'm not sure why this is a surprise to you. i hear & read members of the boxing press refer to canelo as only canelo all the time. sometimes the nickname is catchier or easier
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I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now, i asked if the image was from the ring to confirm your question of who has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now. it seems it is the sun & not the ring
Yes... that is accurate. :)
we got there in the end
Yes. I stated my opinion that it is beneath a major media outlet to confer one-name status to someone like Ginger...... and you made your point (correctly) that it wasn't The Ring who did that.
Win-win... wouldn't you say?
no you asked if ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now & i asked if the image was from the ring. you told me to see a particular post. i was just asking if it was officially from the ring. turns out it wasn't. anyway i'm not sure why this is a surprise to you. i hear & read members of the boxing press refer to canelo as only canelo all the time. sometimes the nickname is catchier or easier
I'll continue to play your stupid little game, ticky.
I saw something posted on the forum and commented on it. It was a list of p4p fighters as per The Ring... and Canelo was only referred to by his nickname, which isn't even his real first name.
In your usual nit-picky fashion you went into your childish tirade of wanting to know if it in fact was the The Ring.
As a courtesy to your childish bullshit, I did the research and found that no... it was The Sun, a major publication, that had only used Canelo's nickname on the list.
Kudos to you... put a little star in your notebook.
I then stated my opinion that, whether it's The Ring or The Sun... it is unwarranted to refer to Ginger, now an exposed diva, by only one name. That honor is usually reserved by GOATs of a sport. And I gave examples.
You predictably wanted to hammer the point home that I had made a mistake, because that's what petulant, bratty little children do. So you held your breath and demanded that I admit I was wrong about The Ring.
As an adult, I admitted to my mistake... but somehow that doesn't seem to be enough for you.
Like with your asinine argument about "so called illegal guns" (they're either illegal or they're not)..... you continue to want to have the last word, or else you'll take your toys and go home.
Tell me... did you suffer a depraved childhood, that now you have this asinine need to get in the last word?
I'll be happy to give you the last word.... after I've said a couple of my own.
Fuck off.
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But who gives a shit about any of that??
All I care about is that Ginger has plummeted off his #1 post, courtesy of a comprehensive beating at the hands of Dmitry Bivol. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6Sxv-sUYtM
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I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now, i asked if the image was from the ring to confirm your question of who has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now. it seems it is the sun & not the ring
Yes... that is accurate. :)
we got there in the end
Yes. I stated my opinion that it is beneath a major media outlet to confer one-name status to someone like Ginger...... and you made your point (correctly) that it wasn't The Ring who did that.
Win-win... wouldn't you say?
no you asked if ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now & i asked if the image was from the ring. you told me to see a particular post. i was just asking if it was officially from the ring. turns out it wasn't. anyway i'm not sure why this is a surprise to you. i hear & read members of the boxing press refer to canelo as only canelo all the time. sometimes the nickname is catchier or easier
I'll continue to play your stupid little game, ticky.
I saw something posted on the forum and commented on it. It was a list of p4p fighters as per The Ring... and Canelo was only referred to by his nickname, which isn't even his real first name.
In your usual nit-picky fashion you went into your childish tirade of wanting to know if it in fact was the The Ring.
As a courtesy to your childish bullshit, I did the research and found that no... it was The Sun, a major publication, that had only used Canelo's nickname on the list.
Kudos to you... put a little star in your notebook.
I then stated my opinion that, whether it's The Ring or The Sun... it is unwarranted to refer to Ginger, now an exposed diva, by only one name. That honor is usually reserved by GOATs of a sport. And I gave examples.
You predictably wanted to hammer the point home that I had made a mistake, because that's what petulant, bratty little children do. So you held your breath and demanded that I admit I was wrong about The Ring.
As an adult, I admitted to my mistake... but somehow that doesn't seem to be enough for you.
Like with your asinine argument about "so called illegal guns" (they're either illegal or they're not)..... you continue to want to have the last word, or else you'll take your toys and go home.
Tell me... did you suffer a depraved childhood, that now you have this asinine need to get in the last word?
I'll be happy to give you the last word.... after I've said a couple of my own.
Fuck off.
asking a genuine question is childish? i never thought you made a mistake. i was wanting to confirm who the image was from. you never confirmed who it was from in your reply to me, instead telling me to see another post. someone else said it was the sun before you did. you never made a mistake, you asked a question & i asked for confirmation on an image. no big deal. as for the other discussion, it's about what is wrong, illegal doesn't automatically make something wrong
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I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now, i asked if the image was from the ring to confirm your question of who has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now. it seems it is the sun & not the ring
Yes... that is accurate. :)
we got there in the end
Yes. I stated my opinion that it is beneath a major media outlet to confer one-name status to someone like Ginger...... and you made your point (correctly) that it wasn't The Ring who did that.
Win-win... wouldn't you say?
no you asked if ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now & i asked if the image was from the ring. you told me to see a particular post. i was just asking if it was officially from the ring. turns out it wasn't. anyway i'm not sure why this is a surprise to you. i hear & read members of the boxing press refer to canelo as only canelo all the time. sometimes the nickname is catchier or easier
I'll continue to play your stupid little game, ticky.
I saw something posted on the forum and commented on it. It was a list of p4p fighters as per The Ring... and Canelo was only referred to by his nickname, which isn't even his real first name.
In your usual nit-picky fashion you went into your childish tirade of wanting to know if it in fact was the The Ring.
As a courtesy to your childish bullshit, I did the research and found that no... it was The Sun, a major publication, that had only used Canelo's nickname on the list.
Kudos to you... put a little star in your notebook.
I then stated my opinion that, whether it's The Ring or The Sun... it is unwarranted to refer to Ginger, now an exposed diva, by only one name. That honor is usually reserved by GOATs of a sport. And I gave examples.
You predictably wanted to hammer the point home that I had made a mistake, because that's what petulant, bratty little children do. So you held your breath and demanded that I admit I was wrong about The Ring.
As an adult, I admitted to my mistake... but somehow that doesn't seem to be enough for you.
Like with your asinine argument about "so called illegal guns" (they're either illegal or they're not)..... you continue to want to have the last word, or else you'll take your toys and go home.
Tell me... did you suffer a depraved childhood, that now you have this asinine need to get in the last word?
I'll be happy to give you the last word.... after I've said a couple of my own.
Fuck off.
asking a genuine question is childish? i never thought you made a mistake. i was wanting to confirm who the image was from. you never confirmed who it was from in your reply to me, instead telling me to see another post. someone else said it was the sun before you did. you never made a mistake, you asked a question & i asked for confirmation on an image. no big deal. as for the other discussion, it's about what is wrong, illegal doesn't automatically make something wrong
Ok cool, we can leave it at that. I had no way of knowing it wasn't The Ring, but it was duly noted.
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I'd go with Inoue as number one p4p, that guy really is a monster, his left hand was great v donaire so quick accurate and powerful amazing stuff.... Although i do think Crawford is top class so if someone wants him as p4p number one then go for it...
I`d have the top two the same and in the same order as the ring though..I love usyk too.(no homo)
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I think his point is that the sun made up that image for their newspaper, and the ring seem to list him as canelo Alvarez on their list...not that it matters much.
Yes, The Ring lists him as Canelo Alvarez. But the fact remains at least one media outlet deems him worthy of one-name status, a lofty honor usually reserved by the consensus GOATs of their sports (Jordan, Tiger, Serena, etc).
It just adds to that "fawning factor" that Ginger carries into the ring with him and sways the judges.
so not the ring then? i don't see the issue but i call lots of fighters by their nicknames
You're not the press.
And just a note...
I won't be getting into another interminable tit-for-tat on what is basically a personal opinion.
no personal opinion, i just asked if the image was officially from the ring, as you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now
Yes. And I believe it was established that it wasn't The Ring, but an actual press organization that took the liberty to call Canelo only by the one name. I expressed my thoughts on that... and that was that.
Whether it's The Ring or The Sun, I couldn't care less. Someone other than an individual somehow decided to confer "one name status" on Ginger.
I believe it adds to the "fawning factor."
okay so not the ring
By now we all know how important it is for you to have the last word... so I'll just limit myself to saying "Yes... not The Ring." Brownie points for you. ;D
The illustration came from The Sun, which to me is even worse, since it means a supposed neutral media outlet is feeding the fanboyism that surrounds Ginger.
But yeah... "so not the ring." Feel free to have the last word.
I'm satisfied I've driven home my point. ;)
you were asking if the ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now, i asked if the image was from the ring to confirm your question of who has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now. it seems it is the sun & not the ring
Yes... that is accurate. :)
we got there in the end
Yes. I stated my opinion that it is beneath a major media outlet to confer one-name status to someone like Ginger...... and you made your point (correctly) that it wasn't The Ring who did that.
Win-win... wouldn't you say?
no you asked if ring has catapulted ginger into one-name-celebrity status now & i asked if the image was from the ring. you told me to see a particular post. i was just asking if it was officially from the ring. turns out it wasn't. anyway i'm not sure why this is a surprise to you. i hear & read members of the boxing press refer to canelo as only canelo all the time. sometimes the nickname is catchier or easier
I'll continue to play your stupid little game, ticky.
I saw something posted on the forum and commented on it. It was a list of p4p fighters as per The Ring... and Canelo was only referred to by his nickname, which isn't even his real first name.
In your usual nit-picky fashion you went into your childish tirade of wanting to know if it in fact was the The Ring.
As a courtesy to your childish bullshit, I did the research and found that no... it was The Sun, a major publication, that had only used Canelo's nickname on the list.
Kudos to you... put a little star in your notebook.
I then stated my opinion that, whether it's The Ring or The Sun... it is unwarranted to refer to Ginger, now an exposed diva, by only one name. That honor is usually reserved by GOATs of a sport. And I gave examples.
You predictably wanted to hammer the point home that I had made a mistake, because that's what petulant, bratty little children do. So you held your breath and demanded that I admit I was wrong about The Ring.
As an adult, I admitted to my mistake... but somehow that doesn't seem to be enough for you.
Like with your asinine argument about "so called illegal guns" (they're either illegal or they're not)..... you continue to want to have the last word, or else you'll take your toys and go home.
Tell me... did you suffer a depraved childhood, that now you have this asinine need to get in the last word?
I'll be happy to give you the last word.... after I've said a couple of my own.
Fuck off.
asking a genuine question is childish? i never thought you made a mistake. i was wanting to confirm who the image was from. you never confirmed who it was from in your reply to me, instead telling me to see another post. someone else said it was the sun before you did. you never made a mistake, you asked a question & i asked for confirmation on an image. no big deal. as for the other discussion, it's about what is wrong, illegal doesn't automatically make something wrong
Ok cool, we can leave it at that. I had no way of knowing it wasn't The Ring, but it was duly noted.
i wasn't accusing you of blaming the ring, i was asking for confirmation on the image. on a similar note, most of the media refers to gennady as ggg, his nickname or loma for vasyl. i think sometimes the nickname is easier or catchier
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i wasn't accusing you of blaming the ring, i was asking for confirmation on the image. on a similar note, most of the media refers to gennady as ggg, his nickname or loma for vasyl. i think sometimes the nickname is easier or catchier
That's true. We all use the nicknames, as a matter of fact. But one thing is for you, I, or the media (in talk shows or some opinion pieces) to refer to GGG, Loma, Canelo, etc...... and it's quite another thing for a media publication to only refer to Canelo by the one name in a p4p list, regardless of whether they're doctoring a list from another source (The Ring, in this case). It's not a professional look, IMO.
That's my only point.
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i wasn't accusing you of blaming the ring, i was asking for confirmation on the image. on a similar note, most of the media refers to gennady as ggg, his nickname or loma for vasyl. i think sometimes the nickname is easier or catchier
That's true. We all use the nicknames, as a matter of fact. But one thing is for you, I, or the media (in talk shows or some opinion pieces) to refer to GGG, Loma, Canelo, etc...... and it's quite another thing for a media publication to only refer to Canelo by the one name in a p4p list, regardless of whether they're doctoring a list from another source (The Ring, in this case). It's not a professional look, IMO.
That's my only point.
is it just the pound for pound list you have an issue with using the nickname? i seem to remember for ggg v ryota the fight posters saying ggg v murata
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i wasn't accusing you of blaming the ring, i was asking for confirmation on the image. on a similar note, most of the media refers to gennady as ggg, his nickname or loma for vasyl. i think sometimes the nickname is easier or catchier
That's true. We all use the nicknames, as a matter of fact. But one thing is for you, I, or the media (in talk shows or some opinion pieces) to refer to GGG, Loma, Canelo, etc...... and it's quite another thing for a media publication to only refer to Canelo by the one name in a p4p list, regardless of whether they're doctoring a list from another source (The Ring, in this case). It's not a professional look, IMO.
That's my only point.
is it just the pound for pound list you have an issue with using the nickname? i seem to remember for ggg v ryota the fight posters saying ggg v murata
In the p4p list, Canelo was the only one with just the one name/nickname. Everyone else had their first and last names. Why the different treatment of Canelo? Even when Ginger was #1... The Sun used the one name only. So it's something The Sun is prone to do. Why?
Fight posters are pretty much publicity... and fighters will be referred to in all sorts of different ways.
I personally object to The Sun's annoying habit of treating Ginger under "one name status"... and IMO it's unprofessional. He's certainly not a GOAT... nor is he more deserving than any of the other guys on the list.
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It is the sun... unprofessional is sort of their game.
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i wasn't accusing you of blaming the ring, i was asking for confirmation on the image. on a similar note, most of the media refers to gennady as ggg, his nickname or loma for vasyl. i think sometimes the nickname is easier or catchier
That's true. We all use the nicknames, as a matter of fact. But one thing is for you, I, or the media (in talk shows or some opinion pieces) to refer to GGG, Loma, Canelo, etc...... and it's quite another thing for a media publication to only refer to Canelo by the one name in a p4p list, regardless of whether they're doctoring a list from another source (The Ring, in this case). It's not a professional look, IMO.
That's my only point.
is it just the pound for pound list you have an issue with using the nickname? i seem to remember for ggg v ryota the fight posters saying ggg v murata
In the p4p list, Canelo was the only one with just the one name/nickname. Everyone else had their first and last names. Why the different treatment of Canelo? Even when Ginger was #1... The Sun used the one name only. So it's something The Sun is prone to do. Why?
Fight posters are pretty much publicity... and fighters will be referred to in all sorts of different ways.
I personally object to The Sun's annoying habit of treating Ginger under "one name status"... and IMO it's unprofessional. He's certainly not a GOAT... nor is he more deserving than any of the other guys on the list.
you would have to ask the person who put together the list & images for their reasons. i wonder if when they had ggg listed if they listed him as ggg
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i wasn't accusing you of blaming the ring, i was asking for confirmation on the image. on a similar note, most of the media refers to gennady as ggg, his nickname or loma for vasyl. i think sometimes the nickname is easier or catchier
That's true. We all use the nicknames, as a matter of fact. But one thing is for you, I, or the media (in talk shows or some opinion pieces) to refer to GGG, Loma, Canelo, etc...... and it's quite another thing for a media publication to only refer to Canelo by the one name in a p4p list, regardless of whether they're doctoring a list from another source (The Ring, in this case). It's not a professional look, IMO.
That's my only point.
is it just the pound for pound list you have an issue with using the nickname? i seem to remember for ggg v ryota the fight posters saying ggg v murata
In the p4p list, Canelo was the only one with just the one name/nickname. Everyone else had their first and last names. Why the different treatment of Canelo? Even when Ginger was #1... The Sun used the one name only. So it's something The Sun is prone to do. Why?
Fight posters are pretty much publicity... and fighters will be referred to in all sorts of different ways.
I personally object to The Sun's annoying habit of treating Ginger under "one name status"... and IMO it's unprofessional. He's certainly not a GOAT... nor is he more deserving than any of the other guys on the list.
you would have to ask the person who put together the list & images for their reasons. i wonder if when they had ggg listed if they listed him as ggg
Here's a Sun listing from Nov 2019.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...-STATS-4-2.jpg
They listed him as Gennady Golovkin, although I see at the time they listed Ginger as Canelo Alvarez. Which technically isn't even his real name. It's Saul Alvarez. But Canelo's fine. Few would recognize him as Saul anyway.
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i wasn't accusing you of blaming the ring, i was asking for confirmation on the image. on a similar note, most of the media refers to gennady as ggg, his nickname or loma for vasyl. i think sometimes the nickname is easier or catchier
That's true. We all use the nicknames, as a matter of fact. But one thing is for you, I, or the media (in talk shows or some opinion pieces) to refer to GGG, Loma, Canelo, etc...... and it's quite another thing for a media publication to only refer to Canelo by the one name in a p4p list, regardless of whether they're doctoring a list from another source (The Ring, in this case). It's not a professional look, IMO.
That's my only point.
is it just the pound for pound list you have an issue with using the nickname? i seem to remember for ggg v ryota the fight posters saying ggg v murata
In the p4p list, Canelo was the only one with just the one name/nickname. Everyone else had their first and last names. Why the different treatment of Canelo? Even when Ginger was #1... The Sun used the one name only. So it's something The Sun is prone to do. Why?
Fight posters are pretty much publicity... and fighters will be referred to in all sorts of different ways.
I personally object to The Sun's annoying habit of treating Ginger under "one name status"... and IMO it's unprofessional. He's certainly not a GOAT... nor is he more deserving than any of the other guys on the list.
you would have to ask the person who put together the list & images for their reasons. i wonder if when they had ggg listed if they listed him as ggg
Here's a Sun listing from Nov 2019.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...-STATS-4-2.jpg
They listed him as Gennady Golovkin, although I see at the time they listed Ginger as Canelo Alvarez. Which technically isn't even his real name. It's Saul Alvarez. But Canelo's fine. Few would recognize him as Saul anyway.
He just loses names on the sun lists, give it a few more years he'll be further down the list and they'll be referring to him as "Can"....which could end up being fairly accurate
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i wasn't accusing you of blaming the ring, i was asking for confirmation on the image. on a similar note, most of the media refers to gennady as ggg, his nickname or loma for vasyl. i think sometimes the nickname is easier or catchier
That's true. We all use the nicknames, as a matter of fact. But one thing is for you, I, or the media (in talk shows or some opinion pieces) to refer to GGG, Loma, Canelo, etc...... and it's quite another thing for a media publication to only refer to Canelo by the one name in a p4p list, regardless of whether they're doctoring a list from another source (The Ring, in this case). It's not a professional look, IMO.
That's my only point.
is it just the pound for pound list you have an issue with using the nickname? i seem to remember for ggg v ryota the fight posters saying ggg v murata
In the p4p list, Canelo was the only one with just the one name/nickname. Everyone else had their first and last names. Why the different treatment of Canelo? Even when Ginger was #1... The Sun used the one name only. So it's something The Sun is prone to do. Why?
Fight posters are pretty much publicity... and fighters will be referred to in all sorts of different ways.
I personally object to The Sun's annoying habit of treating Ginger under "one name status"... and IMO it's unprofessional. He's certainly not a GOAT... nor is he more deserving than any of the other guys on the list.
you would have to ask the person who put together the list & images for their reasons. i wonder if when they had ggg listed if they listed him as ggg
Here's a Sun listing from Nov 2019.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...-STATS-4-2.jpg
They listed him as Gennady Golovkin, although I see at the time they listed Ginger as Canelo Alvarez. Which technically isn't even his real name. It's Saul Alvarez. But Canelo's fine. Few would recognize him as Saul anyway.
so i can only assume it was a fanboy that put the recent image together. i think canelo alvarez is acceptable but i agree if i was putting together a list of people i would use their real names or the names they are introduced with in the ring
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Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?
If your using the names they're announced as I'm ring, imagine if Apollo Creed made the list... they'd run out of room pretty quick.
3. Apollo the Dancing destroyer, the king of sti......
There is the obvious problem of him being a dead fictional character of course.
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Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?
Never really thought of it but yeh that's the way he's listed in The Ring also. Guess it could be a little fawning. But we all knew the favoritism with The Ring some years ago when Fishnets got involved. Still though..absolutley no one in his corner when he was trailing badly to Bivol was calling him "Canelo". It was Saul, Saul get your head out of your arse! One thing for broadcasters and network fanboys to try and be a wanker hipster and abbreviate to nicknames. Remember they would go overboard with "JuanMa". That drove me nuts. Mans name is Saul should be listed as that.
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Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?
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palmerq
If your using the names they're announced as I'm ring, imagine if Apollo Creed made the list... they'd run out of room pretty quick.
3. Apollo the Dancing destroyer, the king of sti......
There is the obvious problem of him being a dead fictional character of course.
what i mean is like say jesse rodriguez, instead of his real name jesse franco. i would list him as jesse rodriguez, as that what they announce in the ring
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Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
palmerq
If your using the names they're announced as I'm ring, imagine if Apollo Creed made the list... they'd run out of room pretty quick.
3. Apollo the Dancing destroyer, the king of sti......
There is the obvious problem of him being a dead fictional character of course.
what i mean is like say jesse rodriguez, instead of his real name jesse franco. i would list him as jesse rodriguez, as that what they announce in the ring
I was just joking, I just thought of rocky four then and Apollo's massive list of names. I'd have no problem with big Wang going on a list as Srisket Sor Rungvisai even though that's like a supermarket sponsor's name :S.
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Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?
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Originally Posted by
palmerq
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Originally Posted by
TIC
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Originally Posted by
palmerq
If your using the names they're announced as I'm ring, imagine if Apollo Creed made the list... they'd run out of room pretty quick.
3. Apollo the Dancing destroyer, the king of sti......
There is the obvious problem of him being a dead fictional character of course.
what i mean is like say jesse rodriguez, instead of his real name jesse franco. i would list him as jesse rodriguez, as that what they announce in the ring
I was just joking, I just thought of rocky four then and Apollo's massive list of names. I'd have no problem with big Wang going on a list as Srisket Sor Rungvisai even though that's like a supermarket sponsor's name :S.
no issue, i knew what you meant. i was just trying to better explain what i was meaning
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Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?
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Originally Posted by
Master
NAOYA INOUE has moved to the top of Ring Magazine's latest pound-for-pound rankings.
The Japanese knockout specialist took just two rounds to blast out Nonito Donaire in their unification bantamweight rematch this week.
And that has been enough to see 29-year-old take top spot in the latest rankings that were released this week.
Canelo Alvarez had been in top spot for several months, but he has now been bumped off in the Ring Magazine's P4P top ten boxers.
The Mexican ace, 31, was outpointed by Russia's WBA light-heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol last month.
It was just the second defeat of his 61-fight career, with his previous loss coming at the hands of Floyd Mayweather in 2013.
Prior to Canelo's shock defeat, he was sitting pretty at the top of the Ring's P4P list.
But he has now plummeted down in the rankings, while there is still no room for Tyson Fury after he signed off his career with a brutal knockout victory over Dillian Whyte last month.
The Ring Magazine still counts Fury as their top heavyweight and champion, though they have omitted him from their updated list.
And there is also no room for Anthony Joshua either - although that could all change if he wins his rematch with No.2 Oleksandr Usyk.
The Ukrainian took the heavyweight titles from AJ last September, and that also took him top of the P4P list.
But now Inoue’s latest victory, which unified the bantamweight division, propelled him above Usyk into pole position.
And, with Fury and Joshua’s omission, that means there is now only one British boxer left in the top ten.
Unbeaten star Josh Taylor retains his place, although he has dropped from sixth to ninth.
The 19-0 Scot is not to blame for the terrible scorecards that gifted him an undeserved win over Jack Catterall back in February but his air of invincibility has definitely suffered a dent.
Prior to that bout Taylor was one of British boxing’s biggest success stories, racing to undisputed 10st glory by taking on all of the best in his way and beating them convincingly.
He is definitely not the first big star to dodge a costly bullet thanks to some skew-whiff scoring, and his reputation has taken a big hit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18853...ound-rankings/
Get beterbiev up there, what a monster... Although bivol has a chance against him.. hopefully that happens soon
I'll look up his nickname so the sun can list him under that.
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Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?
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Originally Posted by
palmerq
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Originally Posted by
Master
NAOYA INOUE has moved to the top of Ring Magazine's latest pound-for-pound rankings.
The Japanese knockout specialist took just two rounds to blast out Nonito Donaire in their unification bantamweight rematch this week.
And that has been enough to see 29-year-old take top spot in the latest rankings that were released this week.
Canelo Alvarez had been in top spot for several months, but he has now been bumped off in the Ring Magazine's P4P top ten boxers.
The Mexican ace, 31, was outpointed by Russia's WBA light-heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol last month.
It was just the second defeat of his 61-fight career, with his previous loss coming at the hands of Floyd Mayweather in 2013.
Prior to Canelo's shock defeat, he was sitting pretty at the top of the Ring's P4P list.
But he has now plummeted down in the rankings, while there is still no room for Tyson Fury after he signed off his career with a brutal knockout victory over Dillian Whyte last month.
The Ring Magazine still counts Fury as their top heavyweight and champion, though they have omitted him from their updated list.
And there is also no room for Anthony Joshua either - although that could all change if he wins his rematch with No.2 Oleksandr Usyk.
The Ukrainian took the heavyweight titles from AJ last September, and that also took him top of the P4P list.
But now Inoue’s latest victory, which unified the bantamweight division, propelled him above Usyk into pole position.
And, with Fury and Joshua’s omission, that means there is now only one British boxer left in the top ten.
Unbeaten star Josh Taylor retains his place, although he has dropped from sixth to ninth.
The 19-0 Scot is not to blame for the terrible scorecards that gifted him an undeserved win over Jack Catterall back in February but his air of invincibility has definitely suffered a dent.
Prior to that bout Taylor was one of British boxing’s biggest success stories, racing to undisputed 10st glory by taking on all of the best in his way and beating them convincingly.
He is definitely not the first big star to dodge a costly bullet thanks to some skew-whiff scoring, and his reputation has taken a big hit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18853...ound-rankings/
Get beterbiev up there, what a monster... Although bivol has a chance against him.. hopefully that happens soon
I agree. Where would you insert Beterbiev? I'd put him anywhere from 3rd to 5th.
(And I'd just call him Artur).
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Re: NOW can we stop the disrespect on Crawford and put him at #1 p4p?
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
palmerq
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Originally Posted by
Master
NAOYA INOUE has moved to the top of Ring Magazine's latest pound-for-pound rankings.
The Japanese knockout specialist took just two rounds to blast out Nonito Donaire in their unification bantamweight rematch this week.
And that has been enough to see 29-year-old take top spot in the latest rankings that were released this week.
Canelo Alvarez had been in top spot for several months, but he has now been bumped off in the Ring Magazine's P4P top ten boxers.
The Mexican ace, 31, was outpointed by Russia's WBA light-heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol last month.
It was just the second defeat of his 61-fight career, with his previous loss coming at the hands of Floyd Mayweather in 2013.
Prior to Canelo's shock defeat, he was sitting pretty at the top of the Ring's P4P list.
But he has now plummeted down in the rankings, while there is still no room for Tyson Fury after he signed off his career with a brutal knockout victory over Dillian Whyte last month.
The Ring Magazine still counts Fury as their top heavyweight and champion, though they have omitted him from their updated list.
And there is also no room for Anthony Joshua either - although that could all change if he wins his rematch with No.2 Oleksandr Usyk.
The Ukrainian took the heavyweight titles from AJ last September, and that also took him top of the P4P list.
But now Inoue’s latest victory, which unified the bantamweight division, propelled him above Usyk into pole position.
And, with Fury and Joshua’s omission, that means there is now only one British boxer left in the top ten.
Unbeaten star Josh Taylor retains his place, although he has dropped from sixth to ninth.
The 19-0 Scot is not to blame for the terrible scorecards that gifted him an undeserved win over Jack Catterall back in February but his air of invincibility has definitely suffered a dent.
Prior to that bout Taylor was one of British boxing’s biggest success stories, racing to undisputed 10st glory by taking on all of the best in his way and beating them convincingly.
He is definitely not the first big star to dodge a costly bullet thanks to some skew-whiff scoring, and his reputation has taken a big hit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18853...ound-rankings/
Get beterbiev up there, what a monster... Although bivol has a chance against him.. hopefully that happens soon
I agree. Where would you insert Beterbiev? I'd put him anywhere from 3rd to 5th.
(And I'd just call him Artur).
I'd put him around 5 i think, the guy is an offensive Monster and he's beating the opposition and taking the belts, although i think you could claim bivol should be ahead for beating Alvarez in such Fashion... For me the top 3 or 4 is set (Inoue, usyk,Crawford/Spence depending on your opinion)... After that the order doesn't matter too much, to me at least.
Just get bivol v beterbiev done and then the winner is potentially 3rd on my list, depending on how Crawford and Spence do.
