Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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jangeorg
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southakron314
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Obviously, the only way Joe wins is by decision. Which means he'd have to go the full 12 rounds. Meanwhile, I can't imagine that Kelly's just going to let Joe stay outside and jab his way to a decision. I'm sure Pavlik would be schooled to force the action, cut off the ring, and make Joe engage. And therein lies the problem for Joe.
Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.
If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death
Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight;D
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/866...Calzaghe16.jpg
You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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hattonthehammer
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lol
Some of you guys should listen to Enzo. He's a fucking loony, and fearless to boot
Was actually pleasently surprised with the compassion he showed for gary on saturday.
With it not being a brutal knockdown i suspect a lot of trainers would of allowed their fighter to go on but enzo realising his man had taken enough of a beating rightfully waved it off
Without being unfairly harsh on Enzo
I would bet Warren instructed him to throw in the towel.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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hattonthehammer
JC by unanimous decision
At 168 kessler is heavier handed than pavlik and JC managed to extinguish his threat early on.
I really dont buy into the whole pavlik phenomena, 2-3 decent wins dont make a great fighter.
You know that how. Lockett could not make the post fight because he was in the hospital complianing of vision loss. Find me something to back thaqt up. I say Pavlik hits harder than Kessler.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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hattonthehammer
JC by unanimous decision
At 168 kessler is heavier handed than pavlik and JC managed to extinguish his threat early on.
I really dont buy into the whole pavlik phenomena, 2-3 decent wins dont make a great fighter.
Thats all it took for Calzaghe fans to be convinced. He only has a couple of great wins. One of them or two was controversial with Hopkins and Robin Ried.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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southakron314
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jangeorg
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southakron314
Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.
If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death
Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight;D
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/866...Calzaghe16.jpg
You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.
lol
sorry to say it mate but it seems your the one who is coming across pretty naive in all this.
JC has been beating guys up for 15 odd years now and hasnt once come across an opponent who had more to offer than calzaghe.
As ive already mentioned before pavlik will find his power at 168 isnt half of what he has at middleweight and if he does decide to fight joe in straight lines there will only ever be one outcome.
Kelly definetely has the ability to beat joe. I make no qualms about that.
But if they do ever meet pavlik would start the fight as the underdog and i would fully expect JC to be too busy and wily for anything to happen other than a resounding calzaghe points win!!
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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hattonthehammer
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southakron314
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jangeorg
If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death
Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight;D
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/866...Calzaghe16.jpg
You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.
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sorry to say it mate but it seems your the one who is coming across pretty naive in all this.
JC has been beating guys up for 15 odd years now and hasnt once come across an opponent who had more to offer than calzaghe.
As ive already mentioned before pavlik will find his power at 168 isnt half of what he has at middleweight and if he does decide to fight joe in straight lines there will only ever be one outcome.
Kelly definetely has the ability to beat joe. I make no qualms about that.
But if they do ever meet pavlik would start the fight as the underdog and i would fully expect JC to be too busy and wily for anything to happen other than a resounding calzaghe points win!!
Beating up who , Manfredo jr , Omar Sheika , Mario , Viet. Calzaghe has a resume full of bums.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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jangeorg
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southakron314
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TitoFan
Obviously, the only way Joe wins is by decision. Which means he'd have to go the full 12 rounds. Meanwhile, I can't imagine that Kelly's just going to let Joe stay outside and jab his way to a decision. I'm sure Pavlik would be schooled to force the action, cut off the ring, and make Joe engage. And therein lies the problem for Joe.
Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.
If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death
Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight;D
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/866...Calzaghe16.jpg
I wont neg you as your post appears to be light hearted. But I do think your very wrong. Pavlik is world class and has more chance of knocking out Joe than Joe has knocking out him.
Pavlik is like Cotto, they seem robotic watching them but when your in the ring with them its just a totally different story. They both hit harder and with more speed than it appears.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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tysonbruno
Will calzaghe take this fight? This would be the biggest and most dangerous fight of his career.
We've heard that every fight for the past 3 years
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
Pavlik and Hopkins have the same chin?
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Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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hattonthehammer
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southakron314
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jangeorg
If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death
Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight;D
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/866...Calzaghe16.jpg
You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.
lol
sorry to say it mate but it seems your the one who is coming across pretty naive in all this.
JC has been beating guys up for 15 odd years now and hasnt once come across an opponent who had more to offer than calzaghe.
As ive already mentioned before pavlik will find his power at 168 isnt half of what he has at middleweight and if he does decide to fight joe in straight lines there will only ever be one outcome.
Kelly definetely has the ability to beat joe. I make no qualms about that.
But if they do ever meet pavlik would start the fight as the underdog and i would fully expect JC to be too busy and wily for anything to happen other than a resounding calzaghe points win!!
Purely speculation, not fact. I'd pick Calzaghe but you don't know what Pavlik's power will be like at 168, he's a gigantic middleweight so it seems hardly unlikely that he could carry his power up.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
southakron314 why you give me negative rep ??? Pavlik did get out boxed by Taylor for some parts of the rematch. Pavlik even said after the fight that he was getting fustrated cause he couldnt land on Taylor.
I wont sink to your level and give you negative rep back.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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southakron314
You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.
South man you are a cool guy and all, but name calling is just wrong. Keep it cool man we all have a difference of opinion. No need to play dirty.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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southakron314
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hattonthehammer
JC by unanimous decision
At 168 kessler is heavier handed than pavlik and JC managed to extinguish his threat early on.
I really dont buy into the whole pavlik phenomena, 2-3 decent wins dont make a great fighter.
Thats all it took for Calzaghe fans to be convinced. He only has a couple of great wins. One of them or two was controversial with Hopkins and Robin Ried.
THANK GOD SOMEONE SAID IT BEFORE I DID!! Pavlik's supposed 2-3 decent wins are arguably better than Calzaghe's 2-3 decent wins...
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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southakron314
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jangeorg
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southakron314
Another thing. I would like to add something else to this. Some people think Pavlik looks slow but he never pulls back for his power shots. Alot of fighters do. Pavlik doesnt need to . He pushes his punches out. Now pushing your punches is bad if you are a weak striker. Pavlik is not. Thats what makes him land and land those power shots often. He is almost night and day of a better fighter than the Pavlik we saw in the Miranda fight. He almost bats a hand away from your face with a short easy jab and the right hand is fired right on the mark. Lockett probably did not even see the puches that hurt him. I do not see Joe lasting 12 rounds as slow as he looked agianst boxing's grandpal.Kelly will do everything you say and I believe he knocks him out between round 5 - 8.
If Taylor can hurt Palvik that the hell do you think Calzaghe will do to him,he will fucking KO him easy.Palvik is just a new Jeff Lacy overratted like hell,Calzaghe will beat Palvik half to death
Palvik wil look like this after the Calzaghe fight;D
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/866...Calzaghe16.jpg
You are a douche bag. Look at the power differnce between Taylor and Calzaghe. Taylor was accually able to hurt Hopkins when hopkins was younger and better. Joe had nothing to hurt him with. The only reason Pavlik got hurt is he stuck his chin out to show off. Showing off is something Calzaghe fans are used to. Sorry but Pavlik is not Robin Ried who probably won that fight with Calzaghe. He is not Omar Sheika , Mario Viet, Toker Pudwill , or Kabery Salem. He is way better. If you think Calzaghe is going to slap Pavlik to a knockout you are crazy. Joe has nothing that will hurt him . Pavlik on the other hand is way stronger , and more busy than Hopkins with the same chin. Pavlik on the other hand could floor Calzaghe with no problem.
And I thought the Hatton fanboys were bad :rolleyes:.
The guy is a douche bag because he thinks a guy in the top 5 p4p could beat the dude you have a massive hard-on for? I think Calzaghe - Pavlik would be a pick em fight, I'd lean towards Pavlik, but you could make a good case for Calzaghe as well. You can criticize JC's record, I've done it myself, but here's a news flash for you: Calzaghe is better than Taylor, Miranda, and Lockett - and Pavlik has plently of bums on his padded record as well.
Re: Calzaghe Vs Pavlik?????
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hitmandonny
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tysonbruno
Will calzaghe take this fight? This would be the biggest and most dangerous fight of his career.
We've heard that every fight for the past 3 years
Hopkins won that fight in my eyes. Calzaghe was busy but there was not even a trickle of blood out of his nose.
