Looks like it's Pac v Clottey on 13/03/10

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by killersheep

I have no doubt Clottey was handpicked because of his low output. Clottey is a definite upper level guy at welter, BUT this is at the expense of fighting the biggest fight and the biggest purse possible in our generation.

F&CK Pacquiao, Roach and Arum for taking that fight away from me.
And F#CK Roach a second time for recommending Khan vacate to duck Maidana.

Clottey would have been a great option if The superfight of the decade wasn't the alternative.

blah, blah, blah it's Mayweather's fault for wanting to make sure everything is clean and on the level.

I'm pissed off big time, good for Clottey he deserves the payday, I'm hoping he flattens Pac in 1.

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I would love to see Clottey horribly beat Manny Pacquiao around the ring for 11 1/2 rounds before finally knocking him completely unconscious and attacking Freddy Roach with a stool.

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Wrong New York fighter ;D

Interesting to know what Pac will be doing for this fight on the drug testing?

theres no way clottey will risk throwing this chance away by requesting any testing, arum of course knows this

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Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

theres no way clottey will risk throwing this chance away by requesting any testing, arum of course knows this

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Agreed but it will be interesting what pac does regarding the drug test, he will always be tainted now by this and his fights just do not have the same meaning, a bit like any Margarito fight.

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Originally Posted by Master

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Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

theres no way clottey will risk throwing this chance away by requesting any testing, arum of course knows this

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Agreed but it will be interesting what pac does regarding the drug test, he will always be tainted now by this and his fights just do not have the same meaning, a bit like any Margarito fight.

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I think that Pac-Clottey is a decent fight but I won't be watching it. It's pretty obvious that something is up with Manny. There's just way too many red flags. I'm not gonna be fooled again giving people the benefit of the doubt like I did baseball players. It will be a fight because Clottey is tough but Manny will be too fast and strong for him. Manny will most likely fight Clottey, then maybe Tim Bradley or one of the guys at 140, then maybe Valero, then probably call it quits. We probably won't find out the real truth behind Manny until later. All those guys that hang around Manny know what's up and he better pray his money doesn't dry out or people are gonna be selling their stories left and right.

Would be funny as hell if both Manny and Floyd got KO'd by their new opponents in their next fights.

I haven't really been following the whole Manny Pacquiao, steroid circus so i'd rather avoid that. As for this actual fight i don't believe this fight will happen, Joshua Clottey is far too big. I mean in one fight didn't he almost weigh close to 170 ?

He's also far too much of a risk with little reward, only amongst hardcore boxing fans would Manny Pacquiao get credit. Normal average joe fans wouldn't of heard of Joshua Clottey.

So i really doubt Manny Pacquiao's team will take this fight, style wise Manny Pacquiao should win, because Joshua Clottey goes into too much of shell. And he never seems to take that extra step to become a truly elite fighter.

But you never know Joshua Clottey is a big guy, with very good countering abilities and a good defense. And even though his KO ratio isn't great, i still think he can hurt Manny Pacquiao.

But as i said i doubt it happens, although it would be very impressive if it did happen and full credit to Manny Pacquiao if he does indeed take the fight.

Im a Floyd Mayweather Jr fan, but if its true that Floyd Mayweather is taking on Matthew Hatton, then i will lose some respect for Floyd Mayweather Jr, why the hell would he want that fight ?

He already got the ring rust off against a fighter x4 better than Matthew Hatton, Matthew Hatton is a good journeyman fighter at best. Who hasn't even really got a big following, even though he's Ricky Hatton brother.

Why not take on the Berto/Mosley winner ? why waste the fans time with this rubbish ?

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Originally Posted by ICB

I haven't really been following the whole Manny Pacquiao, steroid circus so i'd rather avoid that. As for this actual fight i don't believe this fight will happen, Joshua Clottey is far too big. I mean in one fight didn't he almost weigh close to 170 ?

He's also far too much of a risk with little reward, only amongst hardcore boxing fans would Manny Pacquiao get credit. Normal average joe fans wouldn't of heard of Joshua Clottey.

So i really doubt Manny Pacquiao's team will take this fight, style wise Manny Pacquiao should win, because Joshua Clottey goes into too much of shell. And he never seems to take that extra step to become a truly elite fighter.

But you never know Joshua Clottey is a big guy, with very good countering abilities and a good defense. And even though his KO ratio isn't great, i still think he can hurt Manny Pacquiao.

But as i said i doubt it happens, although it would be very impressive if it did happen and full credit to Manny Pacquiao if he does indeed take the fight.

Im a Floyd Mayweather Jr fan, but if its true that Floyd Mayweather is taking on Matthew Hatton, then i will lose some respect for Floyd Mayweather Jr, why the hell would he want that fight ?

He already got the ring rust off against a fighter x4 better than Matthew Hatton, Matthew Hatton is a good journeyman fighter at best. Who hasn't even really got a big following, even though he's Ricky Hatton brother.

Why not take on the Berto/Mosley winner ? why waste the fans time with this rubbish ?

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well the fight weight was 149 and he weighed in fully clothed with a coat,jeans etc so not easy to tell what he really weighed

i agree with everything else, odd choice of fight for pac, big big risk.... and if he beats clottey alot will think 'so what, clottey was already beat by cotto ... it means nothing'

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Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

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Originally Posted by ICB

I haven't really been following the whole Manny Pacquiao, steroid circus so i'd rather avoid that. As for this actual fight i don't believe this fight will happen, Joshua Clottey is far too big. I mean in one fight didn't he almost weigh close to 170 ?

He's also far too much of a risk with little reward, only amongst hardcore boxing fans would Manny Pacquiao get credit. Normal average joe fans wouldn't of heard of Joshua Clottey.

So i really doubt Manny Pacquiao's team will take this fight, style wise Manny Pacquiao should win, because Joshua Clottey goes into too much of shell. And he never seems to take that extra step to become a truly elite fighter.

But you never know Joshua Clottey is a big guy, with very good countering abilities and a good defense. And even though his KO ratio isn't great, i still think he can hurt Manny Pacquiao.

But as i said i doubt it happens, although it would be very impressive if it did happen and full credit to Manny Pacquiao if he does indeed take the fight.

Im a Floyd Mayweather Jr fan, but if its true that Floyd Mayweather is taking on Matthew Hatton, then i will lose some respect for Floyd Mayweather Jr, why the hell would he want that fight ?

He already got the ring rust off against a fighter x4 better than Matthew Hatton, Matthew Hatton is a good journeyman fighter at best. Who hasn't even really got a big following, even though he's Ricky Hatton brother.

Why not take on the Berto/Mosley winner ? why waste the fans time with this rubbish ?

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well the fight weight was 149 and he weighed in fully clothed with a coat,jeans etc so not easy to tell what he really weighed

i agree with everything else, odd choice of fight for pac, big big risk.... and if he beats clottey alot will think 'so what, clottey was already beat by cotto ... it means nothing'

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Its not really an add choice at all. He is fighting the best available Top Rank fighter. His next opponent was always gonna be Top Rank because they wont ask for drug tests.

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Originally Posted by eagle

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Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

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Originally Posted by ICB

I haven't really been following the whole Manny Pacquiao, steroid circus so i'd rather avoid that. As for this actual fight i don't believe this fight will happen, Joshua Clottey is far too big. I mean in one fight didn't he almost weigh close to 170 ?

He's also far too much of a risk with little reward, only amongst hardcore boxing fans would Manny Pacquiao get credit. Normal average joe fans wouldn't of heard of Joshua Clottey.

So i really doubt Manny Pacquiao's team will take this fight, style wise Manny Pacquiao should win, because Joshua Clottey goes into too much of shell. And he never seems to take that extra step to become a truly elite fighter.

But you never know Joshua Clottey is a big guy, with very good countering abilities and a good defense. And even though his KO ratio isn't great, i still think he can hurt Manny Pacquiao.

But as i said i doubt it happens, although it would be very impressive if it did happen and full credit to Manny Pacquiao if he does indeed take the fight.

Im a Floyd Mayweather Jr fan, but if its true that Floyd Mayweather is taking on Matthew Hatton, then i will lose some respect for Floyd Mayweather Jr, why the hell would he want that fight ?

He already got the ring rust off against a fighter x4 better than Matthew Hatton, Matthew Hatton is a good journeyman fighter at best. Who hasn't even really got a big following, even though he's Ricky Hatton brother.

Why not take on the Berto/Mosley winner ? why waste the fans time with this rubbish ?

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well the fight weight was 149 and he weighed in fully clothed with a coat,jeans etc so not easy to tell what he really weighed

i agree with everything else, odd choice of fight for pac, big big risk.... and if he beats clottey alot will think 'so what, clottey was already beat by cotto ... it means nothing'

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Its not really an add choice at all. He is fighting the best available Top Rank fighter. His next opponent was always gonna be Top Rank because they wont ask for drug tests.

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he has nothing to gain from clottey, a man who lost his last fight and adds nothing to his legacy

yuri foreman is a possible world title at an 8th weight, i think its an easier fight for him to win also

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

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Originally Posted by Zilla

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Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

You may be right on that point. Pac beat Cotto who beat Zab though. But, there is no way to tell.

My point was that Pacquiao will have fought more legit welterweights in one year than Floyd has his whole career.

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That wasn't what you said at first. You said Pac would have been Floyd's first legit WW challenge. Then you moved on to legit welters that Pac has fought. You're absolutely right, though. If Pac does fight Clottey he will have fought more legit WWs than Floyd. But if Floyd and Pac get it on Pac still isn't a legit WW. At least in my book.

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Fair enough. I stand corrected. My main point is what you addressed in this post. Pac may be better at 140, but he has done pretty well so far at 147 and if he beats Clottey, very well.

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Im with your thinking 100%


But the words Legit with Roids should not be excepted by any of us when chatting weight categories and Pac from now on. ;)

Rumour has it they are going to market the fights as

Joshua 'The African Lion' Clottey
v
Manny 'The Philippino Cheater Cheetah' Pacquiao............