you are wrong dude
i hope it happens sooner rather than later so i can laugh in smuggness
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you are wrong dude
i hope it happens sooner rather than later so i can laugh in smuggness
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Originally Posted by erics44
Which the fight with Ortiz? Or ?
Because he has turned that fight down, 135 is to hot for him aswell Rios Marquez Katsidis all to good for him, Soto and Juan Diaz he has chances with but I can't see him beating anyone at world title level for me anyway.
i hope he gets in with anyone at world level soon
its a pitty there will be no ortiz fight mind
I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)
Heart and desire will only get you so far.
JMM, Katsidis and Ortiz (although of the three I'd say he is the best chance) would all murder Murray.
I like the guy and love his style, great to watch, but he will be taking a massive jump in his next fight. Even Diaz and co will be a very big step up.
Murray fighting Ortiz would be frightening, he'd probably try to brawl & Ortiz would stop him in 2 or 3 in my book. Kudriatsev caught him with a couple that made him think, so I'd hate to see what a big strong 140lber would do. Even at 135, I just don't see enough to challenge guys like JMM or Katsidis, who I reckon would both do a number on him.
I would really like to see him fight Brandon Rios, that has FOTY all over it, but I'd probably favour Rios. I reckon Soto is winnable, he takes rounds off & if he can look at the gameplan David Diaz took in & try to refine it, that's a 50/50 fight
who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round
he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level
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Originally Posted by erics44who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round
he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level
Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.
AA looks already finished, he may not have been blown away but he sure as hell has not set the world on fire and losing to Cook says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round
he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level
Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.
i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deservesQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round
he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level
Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.
he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing
The reason he hasn't looked anywhere near losing is because he hasn't been with anyone with world class. Once he faces a world class fighter, he will get exposed as he is too one dimensional.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
This is where your knowledge of John Murray lets you down mate go check his fight against the Didsbury Ice cream man driver called Al Hamidi. Never looked like loosing you say? Just go check that fight out it's on youtube. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deservesQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round
he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level
Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.
he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing
i may watch it dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983This is where your knowledge of John Murray lets you down mate go check his fight against the Didsbury Ice cream man driver called Al Hamidi. Never looked like loosing you say? Just go check that fight out it's on youtube. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deservesQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round
he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level
Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.
he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing
is it really a massive dent in his record?
every post i read on here is suggesting John Murray has no chance, well i think it is my knowledge of John Murray that seems to be better than anyone elses because he does have a chance, a very good chance and im looking forward to it
Not having a dig mate, yu are a funny guy, but I don't think it is at all, to be honest I think on another night he could of lost that fight very close alot people think Al got robbed, people bring it up alot I don't think it has any relevance John looked under prepared.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i may watch it dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983This is where your knowledge of John Murray lets you down mate go check his fight against the Didsbury Ice cream man driver called Al Hamidi. Never looked like loosing you say? Just go check that fight out it's on youtube. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deservesQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round
he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level
Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.
he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing
is it really a massive dent in his record?
every post i read on here is suggesting John Murray has no chance, well i think it is my knowledge of John Murray that seems to be better than anyone elses because he does have a chance, a very good chance and im looking forward to it
I mean we will have to agree to disagree, like I say I talk to John he is a great lad and his trainer Joe Gallagher both top blokes, but just because I no him I won't blow smoke up his arse, I really hope I am wrong with this one but I just can't see John winning against world class fighters with the tools he has got.
Except against 16-9-1 Miguel Munguia and 4-8-1 Youseff Al HamidiQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deservesQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round
he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level
Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.
he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing