Ortiz v Murray could be on the Khan v Maidana undercard!

[skel1983]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

[Master]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

AA looks already finished, he may not have been blown away but he sure as hell has not set the world on fire and losing to Cook says it all.

[erics44]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deserves

he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing

[boxingbantz]

i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deserves

he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing

The reason he hasn't looked anywhere near losing is because he hasn't been with anyone with world class. Once he faces a world class fighter, he will get exposed as he is too one dimensional.

[skel1983]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deserves

he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing

This is where your knowledge of John Murray lets you down mate go check his fight against the Didsbury Ice cream man driver called Al Hamidi. Never looked like loosing you say? Just go check that fight out it's on youtube.

[erics44]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deserves

he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing

This is where your knowledge of John Murray lets you down mate go check his fight against the Didsbury Ice cream man driver called Al Hamidi. Never looked like loosing you say? Just go check that fight out it's on youtube.

i may watch it dude

is it really a massive dent in his record?

every post i read on here is suggesting John Murray has no chance, well i think it is my knowledge of John Murray that seems to be better than anyone elses because he does have a chance, a very good chance and im looking forward to it

[skel1983]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deserves

he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing

This is where your knowledge of John Murray lets you down mate go check his fight against the Didsbury Ice cream man driver called Al Hamidi. Never looked like loosing you say? Just go check that fight out it's on youtube.

i may watch it dude

is it really a massive dent in his record?

every post i read on here is suggesting John Murray has no chance, well i think it is my knowledge of John Murray that seems to be better than anyone elses because he does have a chance, a very good chance and im looking forward to it

Not having a dig mate, yu are a funny guy, but I don't think it is at all, to be honest I think on another night he could of lost that fight very close alot people think Al got robbed, people bring it up alot I don't think it has any relevance John looked under prepared.

I mean we will have to agree to disagree, like I say I talk to John he is a great lad and his trainer Joe Gallagher both top blokes, but just because I no him I won't blow smoke up his arse, I really hope I am wrong with this one but I just can't see John winning against world class fighters with the tools he has got.

[ono]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deserves

he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing

This is where your knowledge of John Murray lets you down mate go check his fight against the Didsbury Ice cream man driver called Al Hamidi. Never looked like loosing you say? Just go check that fight out it's on youtube.

i may watch it dude

is it really a massive dent in his record?

every post i read on here is suggesting John Murray has no chance, well i think it is my knowledge of John Murray that seems to be better than anyone elses because he does have a chance, a very good chance and im looking forward to it

Yeah that must be it.

[skel1983]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deserves

he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing

This is where your knowledge of John Murray lets you down mate go check his fight against the Didsbury Ice cream man driver called Al Hamidi. Never looked like loosing you say? Just go check that fight out it's on youtube.

i may watch it dude

is it really a massive dent in his record?

every post i read on here is suggesting John Murray has no chance, well i think it is my knowledge of John Murray that seems to be better than anyone elses because he does have a chance, a very good chance and im looking forward to it

Yes that must be it, yesterday according to your knowledge he has passed every test and beat everyone and never look like loosing.

[erics44]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deserves

he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing

This is where your knowledge of John Murray lets you down mate go check his fight against the Didsbury Ice cream man driver called Al Hamidi. Never looked like loosing you say? Just go check that fight out it's on youtube.

i may watch it dude

is it really a massive dent in his record?

every post i read on here is suggesting John Murray has no chance, well i think it is my knowledge of John Murray that seems to be better than anyone elses because he does have a chance, a very good chance and im looking forward to it

Yes that must be it, yesterday according to your knowledge he has passed every test and beat everyone and never look like loosing.

i dont think you could be anymore negative about it

yesterday i was right, today im right, john murray has a very good chance at world level

[amat]

I know it's Americans who are called daft but how many types does England have like Eric and Hammer stashed away?

I like John Murray, I haven't seen either of those fights but it's clear he isn't as talented as someone like Ortiz. I think the big thing is the weight too. I mean he would have to bully Ortiz and then make him quit but at 140 Ortiz is so much stronger, it probably just wouldn't happen like that. I think he's a very exciting fighter but the way to build him up and make him a better fighter isn't feeding him to the wolves, it's to accelerate his competition level and then like Skel says, let him get a fight with someone world class in 2 years. Very entertaining fighter to watch, like Skel I just think he doesn't have all the tools.

[ono]

I like Murray but have been burnt by thinking these undefeated fighters are world class when they are brutally exposed when they get there like Kevin Mitchell and Alex Arthur. (I hope Cleverly does not end the same way.)

who was arthur brutally exposed by? cook? gomez? ha funny

yes mitchell lost to katsidis, i dont think it ends his world class hopes tho, it was his first big fight and having been caught he tried to out brawl an experienced brawler of the highest brawling league, maybe with a bit more experience at a higher level he might have got through the round

he'll come again and could very well succeed at world level

Exactly Murray's resume is so shite ( no fault of his own ) he hasn't even faced anyone near the level of Cook or Gomez.

i dont think you are giving him anywhere near the credit he deserves

he has done everything asked and has never even looked anywhere near loosing

Except against 16-9-1 Miguel Munguia and 4-8-1 Youseff Al Hamidi