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No doubt about it. Rick Astley is one of the lizard people.Quote:
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DAMNIT!! So when you check those boxes it only works on your side? Foiled again by saddo, son of a....Quote:
Originally Posted by milesNo doubt about it. Rick Astley is one of the lizard people.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
He probably put that in because he was getting Rick rolled daily.
That's great Bilbo. However, I am a complete moron. It seems to me, the only difference between belief in God, according to you, and non belief is merely saying it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboGod's values are best expressed in the person of Jesus Christ. Interestingly regarding image, nowhere in the Bible does it give a single description of what Jesus looked like, other than to say the Romans pulled out his beard so we know he wasn't clean shaven.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterOK, what are god's values? And why do we need to live by them?Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboOn the contrary He is like us, or rather we are like Him. He is morally expressive, able to choose good and evil. He has free will. He appreciates beauty, knowledge, learning, love, kindness etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterOh right, so he made us in his image but he doesn't actually look like us. That makes perfect sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboActually the biblical definition of image was to know both good and evil, i.e the capacity for free will. It had nothing to do with physical form.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThe bible says he made us in his image, that means he has hands, feet, an eye, a cock etc. So what use are these to him? They must have a purpose, right?Quote:
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Well God's existence is beyond our capacity to fathom. But it's logically absurd to reject the seemingly forced conclusion this massively complex universe must have some designer/designers behind it because you don't already know where they came from.
I do love how for atheists the problem of God coming into existence is incomprehensible for them yet they happily accept that everything else just appeared magically out of nothing for no reason. Maybe that happened with God. One day there He was just immortal, and eternal. If that isn't convincing to you then how about there was an explosion first and lots of spirits came into existence, joining up with other spirits becoming more powerful. Eventually they all became one supreme spirit over many billions of years and then this one made the universe. Doesn't that no sound so much more scientific and plausible?
As to whether God masturbates I don't know, but if that is part of His image He must look down on me and feel very proud..
And what colour is he?
God has no body, he has no gender. These are mortal things. Everything that exists in physical form is a creation of God. He is not part of His creation.
God looks like good. God is good.
Hmm.. the dudes that came up with that idea were pretty smart. It really does make sense. God is good.
It's a shame our image doesn't mean our physical image because i'd love to know how god deals with a dodgy back and stuff.
We are totally created in His image.
You are confused about the term 'image'. It' doesn't apply soley to physical characterisics.
And yes God does look like good. When we live in accordance to God's values we are truly reflecting His image. When we don't live in accordance to God's values we express evil which is an absence of God.
Darkness is an absence of light, thus God is not evil, but merely evil is the absence of good or God.
Can I follow your routine? You know the score, right?
You don't actually need to live by them for salvation. Jesus died to pay the price for your sins because humans are not capable of living a perfect life.
Living God's values for a Christian is because they love the character of their saviour and wish to emulate and live like Him, both to be pleasing to Him and also to find the true happiness that comes with living the way you were intended to live.
Imagine an eagle having free will and deciding to walk everywhere instead of soar majestically through the sky, it would be missing out on its true purpose and life.
Imagine a giraffe choosing to live off of grass, a very uncomfortable existence.
Well we humans were designed in God's image to behave in a certain way, to appreciate life in a certain way. We can refuse to do this as we have free will but it is very interesting to note that all of the ways humans defy God, and gain enjoyment apart from God result in them debasing themselves and acting far below what we are.
So we drink and take drugs which destroy our bodies and make us behave in ways that demean us. We become gluttens and slothful and our bodies become fat, out of shape and weak and sickly. We try to create new moralities and religions apart from God so that we don't need Him at all, or that He doesn't even exist. But take Him away and all we are left with is that are just shaven monkeys that ultimately evolved from slime and pond ooze and whose lives have no meaning or purpose at all.
That's why people choose to live by God's values. Not because of trying to work their way into heaven, it's a free gift you just have to accept it, but because they see themselves as more than evolved ooze and don't see the fun in being a grass eating giraffe or a ground hopping eagle.
So - I now believe in God.
How does this affect my life and what do I have to do?
I don't really follow. If it was a genuine conversion and you accepted Jesus for dying for your sins, technically you don't have to 'do' anything.
Salvation is a free gift. God wants everybody to be saved, but if they decide to reject Him then they must bear the consequence of their free will choose and live apart from God in the next life.
You seem bent on turning Christianity into a list of do's and do not's, which to be fair many Christian sects insist on doing as well.
But Christianity is not about works, it is precisely the opposite. God made the Old Testament laws so strict to demonstrate to his people that they were impossible to follow. They were supposed to show how futile and absurd it is to try and impress God with your works (filthy rags and garments is how the Bible describes them) and instead recognise that you need a saviour.
The Gospel message properly understood is the most amazing message in history.
A perfect God, (perfect in justice as well as goodness) created man with the gift of free will to choose good and evil. When man chose rebellion, the just penalty of which must be death God offered His only Son to take our place. This was planned from all eternity, the way a mankind could have freewill in a just universe and not be damned to death because of the wrong choices they would inevitably make.
God Himself, the creator of the universe humbled Himself enough to become one of us and be born and live amongst us, to an unmarried mother in poverty. He then allowed us to nail Him to a cross and kill Him and actually used His death as an atonement to save us!
It's the most amazing story ever told, I don't see how people cannot be moved by it.
I agree with you that religion is full of hypocrites, has been exploited for evil and many of the criticisms against it are completely justified.
But the message of the cross and the person of Jesus Christ combine to make the greatest story ever told.
That I believe it to be true is the greatest comfort to me in this world.
Straight from Jesus mouth is the stuff written in red. (I only mention that cause not everyone knows it Bilbo, I know you do mate ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboNo color.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThe bible says he made us in his image, that means he has hands, feet, an eye, a cock etc. So what use are these to him? They must have a purpose, right?Quote:
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Well God's existence is beyond our capacity to fathom. But it's logically absurd to reject the seemingly forced conclusion this massively complex universe must have some designer/designers behind it because you don't already know where they came from.
I do love how for atheists the problem of God coming into existence is incomprehensible for them yet they happily accept that everything else just appeared magically out of nothing for no reason. Maybe that happened with God. One day there He was just immortal, and eternal. If that isn't convincing to you then how about there was an explosion first and lots of spirits came into existence, joining up with other spirits becoming more powerful. Eventually they all became one supreme spirit over many billions of years and then this one made the universe. Doesn't that no sound so much more scientific and plausible?
As to whether God masturbates I don't know, but if that is part of His image He must look down on me and feel very proud..
And what colour is he?
Actually the biblical definition of image was to know both good and evil, i.e the capacity for free will. It had nothing to do with physical form.
God has no body, he has no gender. These are mortal things. Everything that exists in physical form is a creation of God. He is not part of His creation.
This is just one hard hitting truth the Roman universal churches council forgot to omit.
Luke 11:52, Woe unto you, Lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves and them that were entering in ye hindered.
Luke:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees and lawyers when the Kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said,
The Kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say lo it is here or lo it is there, for the Kingdom of God is within you.
Anyone who teaches you that you are required to externally seek answers or for Gods Kingdom, is against you progressing towards the truth and are against God.
That would be 99.7% of organized Religions.
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Well God's existence is beyond our capacity to fathom. But it's logically absurd to reject the seemingly forced conclusion this massively complex universe must have some designer/designers behind it because you don't already know where they came from.
I do love how for atheists the problem of God coming into existence is incomprehensible for them yet they happily accept that everything else just appeared magically out of nothing for no reason. Maybe that happened with God. One day there He was just immortal, and eternal. If that isn't convincing to you then how about there was an explosion first and lots of spirits came into existence, joining up with other spirits becoming more powerful. Eventually they all became one supreme spirit over many billions of years and then this one made the universe. Doesn't that no sound so much more scientific and plausible?
As to whether God masturbates I don't know, but if that is part of His image He must look down on me and feel very proud..
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Well God's existence is beyond our capacity to fathom. But it's logically absurd to reject the seemingly forced conclusion this massively complex universe must have some designer/designers behind it because you don't already know where they came from.
I do love how for atheists the problem of God coming into existence is incomprehensible for them yet they happily accept that everything else just appeared magically out of nothing for no reason. Maybe that happened with God. One day there He was just immortal, and eternal. If that isn't convincing to you then how about there was an explosion first and lots of spirits came into existence, joining up with other spirits becoming more powerful. Eventually they all became one supreme spirit over many billions of years and then this one made the universe. Doesn't that no sound so much more scientific and plausible?
As to whether God masturbates I don't know, but if that is part of His image He must look down on me and feel very proud..
Unintentionally Sexual Church Signs | someecards.com
haha they are brilliant! I also agree entirely with your thread above.
I think the title just shows up when it's quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestDAMNIT!! So when you check those boxes it only works on your side? Foiled again by saddo, son of a....Quote:
Originally Posted by milesNo doubt about it. Rick Astley is one of the lizard people.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Well God's existence is beyond our capacity to fathom. But it's logically absurd to reject the seemingly forced conclusion this massively complex universe must have some designer/designers behind it because you don't already know where they came from.
I do love how for atheists the problem of God coming into existence is incomprehensible for them yet they happily accept that everything else just appeared magically out of nothing for no reason. Maybe that happened with God. One day there He was just immortal, and eternal. If that isn't convincing to you then how about there was an explosion first and lots of spirits came into existence, joining up with other spirits becoming more powerful. Eventually they all became one supreme spirit over many billions of years and then this one made the universe. Doesn't that no sound so much more scientific and plausible?
As to whether God masturbates I don't know, but if that is part of His image He must look down on me and feel very proud..
Unintentionally Sexual Church Signs | someecards.com
haha they are brilliant! I also agree entirely with your thread above.
Got's to love them acronyms:
F.B.I. - Female Breast Inspector
UFO - Unusual Foot Oder
B.I.B.L.E. - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth
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